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WCW SuperBrawl III, February 21, 1993 @ Asheville, NC
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post Feb 25 2009, 11:49 AM
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The Hollywood Blondes vs. Erik Watts & Marcus Alexander Bagwell

Chris Benoit vs. 2 Cold Scorpio

Bill Irwin vs. The British Bulldog

Falls Count Anywhere Match
Paul Orndorff vs. Cactus Jack

Smoky Mountain Wrestling Tag Team Championship
The Rock 'n Roll Express vs. The Heavenly Bodies

WCW United States Championship
Maxx Payne vs. Dustin Rhodes

NWA World Championship
Barry Windham vs. The Great Muta

White Castle of Fear Strap Match
Big Van Vader vs. Sting
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post Feb 25 2009, 11:55 AM
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I remember liking Scorpio vs Benoit, and the double main event. Don't remember much about the rest.
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post Feb 25 2009, 12:12 PM
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I have always loved the white castle of fear strap match. It may be my favorite Sting-Vader match and that says a lot.
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post Feb 25 2009, 12:49 PM
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Orndorff vs. Cactus was good too.
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post Feb 25 2009, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE (Enigma @ Feb 25 2009, 12:49 PM) *
Chris Benoit vs. 2 Cold Scorpio


So it's been cut out, then, like his match at Vengeance '02?
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post Feb 25 2009, 01:35 PM
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Yep.

Are the Heavenly Bodies the only team to have a tag title match on WCW and WWF pay-per-views in the same year? Granted Stan Lane was a member for the first match, it's still the same gimmick.

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post Feb 25 2009, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE (Petrol CB @ Feb 25 2009, 01:35 PM) *
Yep.

Are the Heavenly Bodies the only team to have a tag title match on WCW and WWF pay-per-views in the same year? Granted Stan Lane was a member for the first match, it's still the same gimmick.


Depending on your definition of year (A calendar year, like all of 1993, or say March of 1993 to March of 1994).

The Nasty Boys had a U.S. Tag Title match on Halloween Havoc '90, and they were wrestling the Hart Foundation for the gold a few months later at Wrestlemania VII.

Actually, The Rock and Roll Express trump the Heavenly Bodies as they appeared on this show... and then appeared at the 1993 Survivor Series as well (Wrestling the Heavenly Bodies).
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post Feb 25 2009, 02:59 PM
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Calendar year. They wrestled at SuperBrawl III and then against the Steiners at SummerSlam '93.
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It wasn't the same pairing, so I do not count them. Their opponents, however, do count.

You've also got Palumbo/O'Haire in 2001. Unless the match with APA wasn't title for title. Then nevermind.
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post Feb 25 2009, 08:33 PM
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I wonder how they ended up on both WCW and WWF PPV in the same year.
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post Feb 25 2009, 10:07 PM
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well to be nitpicky, only Tom Pritchard wrestled on both ppvs. By the time the Bodies got to WWF, Jimmy Delray replaced Stan Lane in the team.
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post Feb 25 2009, 10:47 PM
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Basically it was because Asheville was a SMW town and they added the Bodies to the card as a local deal. Later on they showed up in the WWF due to Cornette's presence in the company with Yokozuna (as well as backstage).

Since they cut out Benoit/Scorpio I am quite glad that I recorded this show off 24/7 prior to June 2007. It was a very good PPV for the most part.
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post Feb 26 2009, 04:32 PM
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The Bodies/Express match was added because it was the culmination of the short lived working agreement between WCW and SMW. Which is another WCW-esque story in itself with how that thing went down.
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post Feb 26 2009, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE (Hunter's Torn Quad @ Feb 26 2009, 02:32 PM) *
The Bodies/Express match was added because it was the culmination of the short lived working agreement between WCW and SMW. Which is another WCW-esque story in itself with how that thing went down.

I don't remember anything about a WCW/SMW agreement outside of this match. Care to enlighten us? I love inept WCW stories.
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post Feb 26 2009, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE (Cheech Tremendous @ Feb 26 2009, 04:47 PM) *
QUOTE (Hunter's Torn Quad @ Feb 26 2009, 02:32 PM) *
The Bodies/Express match was added because it was the culmination of the short lived working agreement between WCW and SMW. Which is another WCW-esque story in itself with how that thing went down.

I don't remember anything about a WCW/SMW agreement outside of this match. Care to enlighten us? I love inept WCW stories.


Long story made short:

When Watts was in charge of WCW, Cornette made a deal with him to do a talent exchange because Smokey Mountain was on its ass, and Watts agreed some of the WCW guys needed some more experience. He agrees to pay Cornette for the talent swap and to do an angle on Superbrawl.

Well, Watts soon leaves the promotion, but the deal with Cornette is still in place because Cornette and Watts both were smart enough to put it in writing to ensure Cornette got paid. When time came for the angle, people, namely Bischoff, were cutting Cornette's legs off at every turn. WCW execs were also upset with Cornette because the invading SMW talent were badmouthing WCW on promos, which is as ridiculous as it sounds. The deal then ended after that, but people were pissed that Cornette ended up getting paid for it.

There was also the issue of Cornette coming down to the Powerplant to do promos with Ole Anderson's son, which just so happened to be the day Bischoff showed up to speak with Ole. Ole, being Ole, was a smart-ass to Bischoff while Cornette said he put a big booger on Bischoff's sports car. Ole was then fired the next day by FedEx, fax, or mail... I can't remember which.
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post Feb 26 2009, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE (Cheech Tremendous @ Feb 26 2009, 05:47 PM) *
QUOTE (Hunter's Torn Quad @ Feb 26 2009, 02:32 PM) *
The Bodies/Express match was added because it was the culmination of the short lived working agreement between WCW and SMW. Which is another WCW-esque story in itself with how that thing went down.

I don't remember anything about a WCW/SMW agreement outside of this match. Care to enlighten us? I love inept WCW stories.

Paraphrased from the 2000 Cornette shoot:

Late in 1992 Bill Watts contacted Cornette about forming a working agreement with SMW. The idea being to send SMW guys to WCW to get experience, put them over some lower end guys to build them up and eventually put over a big WCW name. The first part of this agreement was the deal with WCW bringing in the Rock and Roll Express, putting them on TV, and then Cornette and the Bodies would 'invade' WCW Saturday Night and confront Watts over doing this because the RnR's were part of SMW. Cornette confronts Watts and they do this great angle with Cornette firing off a number of strong remarks knocking WCW and burying Jim Herd and Watts firing back by telling Cornette not to stick his finger in his chest because Watt's doesn't know where it's been and he doesn't want to have to get a blood test. Anyway, when this fantastic segment airs, Cornette's remarks are edited; when Cornette speaks, the audio goes dead. Watts was told that it was because of a directional microphone. However, when Cornette and Watts meet up about a week or so before Superbrawl, Cornette assures Watts that the explanation he was give was bullshit and the remarks were deliberately edited off. In response, Watts, who correctly figures he's not long for the company, puts their agreement in writing so that WCW is legally obliged to pay Cornette for use of SMW footage and everything else; before this, it had been strictly a handshake deal as both men trusted the other and didn't feel the need to put it in writing. At SuperBrawl, by which time Watts was fired, Cornette confronts Eric Bischoff over the editing, and Bischoff hems and haws and says that a committee of them felt that the comments were too strong and inappropriate. Cornette responds by pointing out that everything he said had been cleared with Watts ("I'd already communicated with the horses head, I didn't feel the need to communicate with his ass").
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post Feb 27 2009, 11:47 AM
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Would anyone really buy the RNR Express invading WCW? Most people viewed them as old NWA/WCW stars anyway, so who knows how effective it would have been.

When exactly was Bischoff put in charge of WCW anyway? It was at some point in 1993 but I've never seen an exact date mentioned. I'm assuming it was in time for this SuperBrawl PPV?
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post Feb 27 2009, 02:00 PM
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-- I totally forgot this was the show where Ric Flair returned.

-- I would totally love to meet Maxx Payne's "team of representatives".

-- Speaking of Maxx Payne, who the hell decided it was a good idea for a demented heel to play the national anthem? How could you boo him after that?

-- And holy LOL at them dubbing "American Males" over Marcus Bagwell & Erik Watts entrance.

-- Did Jesse accidentally call Schiavone "McMahon" during the beginning of the first match?

Schiavone: "But they don't have the belts."
Ventura: "Just a matter of time, McMahon."
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post Feb 27 2009, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE (cabbageboy @ Feb 27 2009, 11:47 AM) *
Would anyone really buy the RNR Express invading WCW? Most people viewed them as old NWA/WCW stars anyway, so who knows how effective it would have been.

When exactly was Bischoff put in charge of WCW anyway? It was at some point in 1993 but I've never seen an exact date mentioned. I'm assuming it was in time for this SuperBrawl PPV?


The Rock 'N Roll weren't invading. They were brought back first (And had the benefit of being recognized as former NWA stars), and then the Heavenly Bodies came out as "invaders" from another promotion.

And just by the dates and everything, Bischoff would have assumed control of WCW in early 1993 (Since Superbrawl was in Februrary and Watts was gone by that point).
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post Feb 27 2009, 02:10 PM
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-- How about the rain of boos when Erik Watts gets tagged in

-- I like how when Missy Hyatt is getting placed up against the limo and patted down, she says, "I'm usually being kissed during this."
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post Feb 27 2009, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE (Hunter's Torn Quad @ Feb 26 2009, 06:00 PM) *
Watts firing back by telling Cornette not to stick his finger in his chest because Watt's doesn't know where it's been and he doesn't want to have to get a blood test.

DUR DUR DIRTY HOMOS ALL GOT THE AIDS
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post Feb 27 2009, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE (Diamonddust @ Feb 26 2009, 05:53 PM) *
There was also the issue of Cornette coming down to the Powerplant to do promos with Ole Anderson's son, which just so happened to be the day Bischoff showed up to speak with Ole. Ole, being Ole, was a smart-ass to Bischoff while Cornette said he put a big booger on Bischoff's sports car. Ole was then fired the next day by FedEx, fax, or mail... I can't remember which.

Ole came right and told Eric that he'd heard hewas going to fire him and asked Eric if that was true. Eric wouldn't give an answer before driving off. Eric then promptly fired him the next day over the phone.
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Two things in particular

- Bodies vs. RnR's was very, very good.

- With the gimmick Maxx Payne had, shouldn't he have, I don't know, more edgy ring attire? The whole thing falls flat when the guy takes his jacket off and is wearing Jobber Outfit #4.
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post Mar 5 2009, 04:21 PM
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Soon enough he switched to a black t-shirt and shorts while wrestling. I didn't much like his generic theme music, as I think it really would have gotten him over to just play guitar on the way down to the ring like he did at Beach Blast '93.
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post Mar 6 2009, 02:54 PM
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Watts may have wanted him to wear the singlet because of his NCAA credentials.
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post Mar 6 2009, 03:00 PM
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That's a plausible explanation. It makes me think of how funny it was that this guitar-wielding sociopath also had a background in amateur wrestling. And it was all true!
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post Mar 6 2009, 03:06 PM
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Well, Balls Mahoney was an accomplished amateur wrestler too. I guess that's just the way it works out.
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