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post Oct 17 2003, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(godthedog @ Oct 16 2003, 11:03 PM)
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The direct approach is the correct approach here.

Tell her you'd like to see her when she gets a second. Talk to her in private and tell he rhow you feel about her. Ask if she'd like to do something social with you outside class.

this does seem to make sense, but it never actually works.

It always works. Either she tells you okay, or she tells you no. But at least you KNOW, and aren't living through the pathetic stage rawmvp is.
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post Oct 18 2003, 01:14 AM
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Since I'm an amateur at this kind of stuff, I was wondering if you guys can tell me what kinds of compliments I can give her without going over the top.

I mean, should I just straight up tell her, "I'm interested in you...are you interested in me?" OR "I think you're really hot and I want to bone you as soon as possible" OR I dunno...

If something can tell me exactly what to say, word for word, it would be appreciated.
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post Oct 18 2003, 03:07 AM
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She might be an undercover ho or think you're ugly.
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post Oct 18 2003, 04:34 AM
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Walk up to her and ask her if she'll let you stick it in her butt. How's that for a compliment?

Or just go to her *outside of class* and tell her "Hi, how you doing?"

Just talk to her dude, don't try to shower her with a bunch of compliments. If she's shy, she probably won't be used to that.

In fact, she might be more likely to push you away because that'll make it an awkward situation for her. Don't put any pressure on her to tell you immediately what she feels about you. You can't expect something like that out of someone introverted. Actually if you talk to her you might want to keep it quiet and everything low-key so she'll feel comfortable around you.

That is, if she's really shy. It sounds like she is. But why don't you ask her friends about her if you're not sure?
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post Oct 18 2003, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE(rawmvp @ Oct 18 2003, 01:14 AM)
Since I'm an amateur at this kind of stuff, I was wondering if you guys can tell me what kinds of compliments I can give her without going over the top.

I mean, should I just straight up tell her, "I'm interested in you...are you interested in me?" OR "I think you're really hot and I want to bone you as soon as possible" OR I dunno...

If something can tell me exactly what to say, word for word, it would be appreciated.

"Hey (name), I just wanted to know if you'd like to do something with me this weekend. Like maybe go (insert activity)."

Then on the date, say "You look great tonight." And other generic stuff.
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post Oct 18 2003, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE(rawmvp @ Oct 17 2003, 11:14 PM)
Since I'm an amateur at this kind of stuff, I was wondering if you guys can tell me what kinds of compliments I can give her without going over the top.

I mean, should I just straight up tell her, "I'm interested in you...are you interested in me?" OR "I think you're really hot and I want to bone you as soon as possible" OR I dunno...

If something can tell me exactly what to say, word for word, it would be appreciated.

Well, you can talk about anything you like about her except her eyes.

"I like your hair."

"That's a nice top you have on."

"Did you just get your nails done? They look nice."

Don't force compliments though. The best thing to do is look at her and see if you notice anything new or see what you like about her and comment on that. Then as you get to know her move away from physical compliments to more mental/emotional ones.
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post Oct 18 2003, 07:14 PM
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"Well, you can talk about anything you like about her except her eyes."

Interesting. Is this like a cardinal sin or something, at least during the initial stages of a relationship? And, if so, why? I've never heard this before.
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post Oct 18 2003, 07:25 PM
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It's just become a cliche that if you dig a girl, you talk about her eyes. It comes across as corny and not being able to think of something original. Also, women like to be complimented on things they actually do. Girls take a lot of pride in hair care, but they're just born with their eyes. You can talk about her eyes later, just not when you're first getting to know her.
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post Oct 20 2003, 04:12 PM
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I've got an update: Ever since I said, " I think you'd be just as beautiful with glasses as you are without them," she hasn't really spoken to me. She seems to purposely look at the ground -- or in other words, not acknowledge my existence -- when we cross paths in Biology Lab. Usually, I'd think that she dislikes me for whatever reason, but oddly enough, I tried to avoid eye-contact and staring, too, the day I fed her the aforementioned compliment. Considering the shyness of the both of us, and in her case, extreme bashfulness, perhaps her effort to avoid eye-contact or any verbalization might indicate something else than the usual.

An answer -- even in the form of conjecture -- would be vastly appreciated.

Thanks
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post Oct 21 2003, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(rawmvp @ Oct 20 2003, 04:12 PM)
I've got an update: Ever since I said, " I think you'd be just as beautiful with glasses as you are without them," she hasn't really spoken to me. She seems to purposely look at the ground -- or in other words, not acknowledge my existence -- when we cross paths in Biology Lab. Usually, I'd think that she dislikes me for whatever reason, but oddly enough, I tried to avoid eye-contact and staring, too, the day I fed her the aforementioned compliment. Considering the shyness of the both of us, and in her case, extreme bashfulness, perhaps her effort to avoid eye-contact or any verbalization might indicate something else than the usual.

An answer -- even in the form of conjecture -- would be vastly appreciated.

Thanks

She's a DUD. Move on to someone with personality.
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post Oct 21 2003, 05:53 PM
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You know, oddly enough, I felt like my hapless experience with this Russian girl would make a cool screenplay with a few fictional twists and turns.

The main reason why I'm so attracted to this Russian girl is because I feel like she is different than most girls. Now, when I say different, I mean great looks, a sense of sophistication/class, down-to-earth shy personality, a sense of self-worth; i.e., she doesn't whore herself around for...ahem...weed, and she abstains from drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, and has a great moral/value system. As most of you know, girls like this are like diamonds in the rough, needles in the haystack, and UFO's in the sky...right?

Oh yeah, back to my screenplay, which coincidentally coincides with Jingus' desire -- or at least when I read the "Have you ever had a crush on someone" thread -- to also devise a story that is interesting and provides closure for the bereaved.

I guess disappointments can be turned into positive, worthwhile things. I suppose it depends on how you spin adversity or failure in life. Who knows, I might still end up with this Russian girl -- as in maybe my prayers will be answered -- but even if the hand of fate slaps me in the face, I'll still find a way to smile and live my life as normally as I possibly could. Because in the end, there are still 3.9999999 billion girls out there waiting to be swept off their feet. Always try to find that hopeful gleam looming in the desolate distance. Always find a way to stay strong even during times when you know you should be crying.
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post Oct 23 2003, 11:56 PM
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I know of a guy who dated a really quiet shy girl, sounds a bit like this one, and that guy was the main character in Audition, and we all know how THAT turned out.

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post Oct 24 2003, 02:13 AM
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I've never heard of the movie Audition. What exactly happens in that film?
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post Oct 24 2003, 09:26 AM
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spoiler tags for those who don't want to know

Spoiler (Highlight to Read):
Everything's fine until they sleep together, she dissapears, he finds out what happened to one of her references that dissapears, they died horribly, he goes home, has a drink that it turns out she drugged with a parilyzer (but he can still feel stuff), she comes in, injects his tongue with something, puts needles in his chest and under his eyes (while sitting on his chest where the needles are), gets some piano wire or something like that and saws of one of his feet at the ankles, nearly kills his son, and had killed the dog somewhere between drugging his bottle of whatever and torturing him


good luck with the girl
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post Oct 24 2003, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE(chaosrage @ Oct 18 2003, 10:34 AM)
Walk up to her and ask her if she'll let you stick it in her butt. How's that for a compliment?

See that would totally work for me if the right guy said it.
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post Oct 25 2003, 01:24 AM
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Heh, I had almost the exact same scenario last year when I was a Senior in high school. I went after the girl who was "hot-cute" ya know? Yours is Russian, mine was Austrian..but Texan at the same time. Whatever.

Anyway, it didnt work out because I could never get her to open up. I didn't really know her. Like, I knew about her life and heard a couple of stories from her, but I didn't know her that well outside of school. Pretty much, I didn't know that she was heavy into the rerceational drugs, and that she would try anything once, spare heroin. I drink and smoke, but she is maybe just too wild for me. And I worked at this whole thing for a few months, until I finally realized it wasn't meant to be. We matched up, but really didn't.

Don't beat yourself up over it, dude. It's not really worth it. You should stop worrying, make a strong move, and then ride it out.
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post Oct 25 2003, 03:24 AM
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I thought it would be the opposite. I thought that introverted girls who are disinclined to open up are prudes as opposed to closet druggies. Interesting.

I've got another question: are there any characteristics that indicate whether or not a girl is wild or tame outside of school?

As I mentioned numerous times, this Russian girl is shy; doesn't laugh at jokes, at least in the classroom; is very polite and refined; she doesn't wear revealing clothing; has trouble making eye contact with me; attains good grades -- anything less than an "A" is unacceptable to her; never swears, and I mean not ONCE; has never referred to me by my name; tends to constrain her emotions within except for the time when a "visual illusion" test made her blush; talks about being a mentor to her younger brother; and, her favorite TV show is Nip/Tuck.

Do the aforementioned characteristics indicate that she may/may not be a virgin or one who experiments with drugs or drinks? Why or why not?

Just Wondering.
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post Oct 25 2003, 08:00 AM
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Sounds boring and aloof. I'd look elsewhere. Possibly a religious nut.
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post Oct 25 2003, 08:24 AM
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her favorite TV show is Nip/Tuck

one more piece of evidence to the Audition Ending theory...

is it possible that she just doesn't know your name?
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post Oct 25 2003, 12:53 PM
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No, she knows my name. Her friends, who sit nearby, always refer to me by my name; so, she's heard it many times. Not to mention, I have an uncommon name and actually introduced myself by name at the beginning of the semester.

I don't know if the fact that her favorite show is Nip/Tuck means anything. Just because one is a fan of hardcore wrestling, for instance, doesn't necessarily indicate that the person is a sadist. Some people, including ourselves, like to live vicariously through movies and TV shows just to escape the boredom of reality.
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post Oct 25 2003, 01:07 PM
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Oh, and speaking of religion, she's a jewish girl. I don't know anything about Russian Jews, because from what I hear, they're somewhat rare.

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post Oct 25 2003, 01:54 PM
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Have you asked this girl out yet?
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post Oct 25 2003, 02:28 PM
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No, I haven't asked her out yet.

Two reasons: I don't have a car at the moment (I'll have one soon though) and I want to make 100% sure she's interested in me before I ask her out.

She's the kind of girl who needs to feel at ease with someone before acceding to anything.
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post Oct 25 2003, 11:46 PM
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There's one way to figure out if she likes you. Stop pussyfooting around. I'm not saying take her to dinner, but try to spend time alone with her.
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post Oct 26 2003, 12:38 AM
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Yeah, but what do I say? I can't have an engaging conversation to save my life. Do I talk about school or do I just tell her how I feel?
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post Oct 27 2003, 07:12 PM
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Update: I've been talking to her everyday for the past month or so. She's starting to warm up to me, too. Today, I gave her my answers (typed) to the study questions for our upcoming exam. She was genuinely pleased to see me do such a nice thing for her. From there, we started to talk a little about her background and childhood. I mentioned that my Poli Sci professor glossed over some intriguing facts about Russia today, and from there, we segued into a 3 minute conversation about her homeland. She told me the most heartwarming, yet heartbreaking story about how she would eat sour cream for dessert when she was little. Also, she talked about how her grandfather would sometimes give her boxes of cereal -- Cheerios and Kix -- much to her delight. Apparently, cereal was a rare thing for her growing up -- I'm assuming her family was impoverished -- so the mere appearance of cereal would put a wide smile on her face. A few minutes later, I realized that I, too, while growing up as a child, would ONLY have either Cheerios or Kix in the pantry. WOW. The only difference being -- and I told her this -- was that I took these things for granted and she didn't.

At the end of class, she thanked me for the study questions and said, "I'll see you tomorrow," in a sweet, delectable tone of voice.

I also found out that she had a boyfriend for 2 years in high school. No details given.

Questions? Comments?

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post Oct 28 2003, 10:41 PM
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*Shrugs* Give her some cereal?
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post Oct 30 2003, 01:03 AM
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Focus on the things you talked about, or just bring other stuff up, who knows what she'll say. Last year I was talking to this Russian girl I worked with and just asked her what she was doing for the weekend, she told me it was her b-day, I asked if she was going out for her birthday, she said no, but asked if I was going to take her out.

Dinner and a weekend romp, and I didn't even have to ask. Sure maybe she was just a freak, but pay attention to details when talking is the moral of the story.
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post Nov 2 2003, 12:52 AM
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Little late here, but I wouldn't suggest learning Russian if she's Ukraine. You may wanna try learning, oh I don't know, Ukraine?

If you're still hurting for something to talk about, you could find out some things about her native country and strike up a conversation based on that and it could eventually evolve into something else. She may be impressed that you know something about her country and don't just write her off as being, "Russian."

But lemme warn ya, you're treading into dangerous grounds, since she is Ukraine. This coming from someone who's half Ukraine himself, we're a crazy bunch. Now, since I was born here and raised under the regular American structure, I like to think I've turned out fairly normal, but those who are actually from the Ukraine simply have a different mindset on things, as you'd expect from someone from another country. It can be a case-by-case thing, but a lot of the Ukraines I know (family, basically) who were born there, can be a little well, crazy. Like I said, the mindset is just something that can really surprise you in many ways, as well as what can come off as a their twisted interpretation of reality. Those who were born and raised there are often still stuck there from a mental state, as they naturally still go by the values and traditions they learned over there. My father's parents are a perfect example.

But back to your deal, since she's lived here for a while, she may be "normal," but from the sounds of it, she seems pretty void in the personality department. Just because she's hot doesn't mean she's worth the chase, especially when there's a good chance that the sex you may get could end up being very "traditional" and thus, unexciting. Just my two cents, though.
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post Nov 2 2003, 03:32 AM
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I appreciate the advice, Bruiser Chong. Can you please elaborate a little more, though? I'd like to know more about their values and twisted perceptions of reality. What characteristics make them a little crazy? Maybe you can give me a specific example of how your father's parents are the "perfect example." Thanks in advance.

Oh, and I'm pretty sure she can speak both Russian and Ukrainian. I would assume the schools are taught in Russian, but I could be wrong.
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