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When posting these threads, I like to ask questions. And ask them, I will.

 

1. Diana Smith, good or bad? Not good as in good looking, but does she do a good enough acting job to make a piss-poor angle at least somewhat believable? Or do you just say...wow, get off my television.

 

2. Double pin finishes, good or bad?

 

3. Yokozuna...why in the world is he employed at this point in time? Was there any possible benefit from having him around?

 

4. If not for Marc Mero's injury later in the year, how far up the card could he have risen? Also, is he related to Little Richard?

 

5. Goldust vs. Undertaker...who in the hell thought up this one? Do you like the matchup? Hate it?

 

6. Last one, would a strap match be a good gimmick to bring back into the current landscape of the WWE? Or is a bullrope match a perfectly acceptable alternative?

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1. Diana Smith, good or bad? Not good as in good looking, but does she do a good enough acting job to make a piss-poor angle at least somewhat believable? Or do you just say...wow, get off my television. Horrible actress...totally wooden. Vickie Guerrero is better than her and that says a LOT. The angle would have been a lot better if she was the one that tried to get with Shawn and he was all hell no about it. Bulldog is defending his wife's honor, why is he the heel again??

 

2. Double pin finishes, good or bad? Bad...cop out finish simply used to extend the feud. There are better ways to end a title match without a true conclusion, see WM24, Orton/HHH/Cena for a good example.

 

3. Yokozuna...why in the world is he employed at this point in time? Was there any possible benefit from having him around? If he hadn't gotten so sloppy fat, they still could have made use of him. 93 Yoko could have had a good series of big man matches with 96 Vader. They could have also used him against Mark Henry (well with a little more training, of course).

 

4. If not for Marc Mero's injury later in the year, how far up the card could he have risen? Also, is he related to Little Richard? Midcard for life for this guy. He had energy, but not main event energy. I don't think the crowd was buying his act. They were more concerned with Sable's tits. I never liked him....not as Wildman, not as Marvelous Marc, not as Johnny B. Badd. I'm pretty sure someone told him he sorta looked like Little Richard way back in the day and he just went with it.

 

5. Goldust vs. Undertaker...who in the hell thought up this one? Do you like the matchup? Hate it? You almost HAVE to do this feud. It makes sense for the bizarre to battle Undertaker. Look at Mankind. Dustin is a solid worker, not sure why nothing seemed to work right when these two hooked up. Probably because UT was still in zombie mode at the time and he only wrestled at a regular pace with Bret Hart.

 

6. Last one, would a strap match be a good gimmick to bring back into the current landscape of the WWE? Or is a bullrope match a perfectly acceptable alternative? Either or could work, but it'd have to be an all out bloodbath sort of match. I think a Cena/Umaga bullrope match last year could have been interesting.

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1. Diana Smith, good or bad? Not good as in good looking, but does she do a good enough acting job to make a piss-poor angle at least somewhat believable? Or do you just say...wow, get off my television.

Wow. Get off my television. And she held the fucking belt upside down too. :huh:

 

2. Double pin finishes, good or bad?

A good way to set up a rematch, as long as the finished is not overused.

 

3. Yokozuna...why in the world is he employed at this point in time? Was there any possible benefit from having him around?

Yoko put a couple of heels over in Vader and Austin, so having him around wasn't such a bad thing.

 

4. If not for Marc Mero's injury later in the year, how far up the card could he have risen? Also, is he related to Little Richard?

Mero's injury was a non-factor. In fact it enable him to disappear for a while and come back fresh. According to his Slam Jam 1 song, he just looks like Little Richard. He's not actually related.

 

5. Goldust vs. Undertaker...who in the hell thought up this one? Do you like the matchup? Hate it?

I liked the toggled Goldust and Mankind feuds that The Undertaker was involved in. Kept him both busy and important while he was outside of the WWF Championship picture.

 

6. Last one, would a strap match be a good gimmick to bring back into the current landscape of the WWE? Or is a bullrope match a perfectly acceptable alternative?

Both are horribly predictable and make no money. Leave the crappy gimmick matches to TNA.

 

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1. Diana Smith, good or bad? Not good as in good looking, but does she do a good enough acting job to make a piss-poor angle at least somewhat believable? Or do you just say...wow, get off my television.

The angle sucked really hard but I don't know if it is really her fault. If I recall Bulldog almost quit the company over this crappy storyline. She's better as the concerned wife or sister, which she did with more success at SummerSlam 1992. As Lushus mentioned, Bulldog was hardly much of a heel here since he thought HBK was hitting on his wife.

 

2. Double pin finishes, good or bad?

They suck. Why not just restart the match and have a real finish? Or in this case why not just let Bulldog roll his shoulder and get a cheap title win, then job him back at KOTR.

 

3. Yokozuna...why in the world is he employed at this point in time? Was there any possible benefit from having him around?

I've never liked Yokozuna at all. About all he could do is job out to people at this point. Him vs. Vader could have been a dream fat boy feud in 1993, but by 1996 nobody cared.

 

4. If not for Marc Mero's injury later in the year, how far up the card could he have risen? Also, is he related to Little Richard?

He was pretty much IC title for life. The injury actually knocked him below that level. Mero was a quality midcard guy but just by reading Foley's book you can tell Mero didn't seem to have a huge amount of respect backstage.

 

5. Goldust vs. Undertaker...who in the hell thought up this one? Do you like the matchup? Hate it?

It was an okay side feud. They never had even remotely a decent match and really Goldust's creepy gay antics didn't make huge sense with UT. In fact I don't recall Goldust doing much of his antics in that feud. But I don't have any real problems with the feud.

 

6. Last one, would a strap match be a good gimmick to bring back into the current landscape of the WWE? Or is a bullrope match a perfectly acceptable alternative?

I'd prefer this sort of match if they would get rid of the 4 corners nonsense. Just tie two guys together and beat the piss out of each other and end it in a pin.

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I thought the whole aura around the Bulldog/Diana/HBK angle was that HBK wasn't trying to hit on Diana, but Diana and the Bulldog went with it to try to get the Title and money or what have you...I thought it was more of a "character assassination" as HBK put it in the pre-PPV promo.

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I think it was more like Diana did it to get her man a title shot, Bulldog had no clue it was BS and was just defending his wife like a clueless, lovestruck idiot.

 

Also, how strange that your wife getting hit on automatically grants you a title shot...

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1. Diana Smith, good or bad? Not good as in good looking, but does she do a good enough acting job to make a piss-poor angle at least somewhat believable? Or do you just say...wow, get off my television.

 

I don't think she did a very good job, but I don't think it had a chance to succeed with her being aligned with the heel. Unless Shawn truly was hitting on her and was doing a double turn, it was doomed.

 

2. Double pin finishes, good or bad?

 

Hmm, I spent 24.95, had to tune back in two days later to see the result, and then no conclusion. I hate the concept.

 

3. Yokozuna...why in the world is he employed at this point in time? Was there any possible benefit from having him around?

 

Freak show. Plus name value, I had no beef with Yoko being around at the time.

 

4. If not for Marc Mero's injury later in the year, how far up the card could he have risen? Also, is he related to Little Richard?

 

Hard to say because Ahmed was rising up the card and Sid and Warrior were yo-yoing up and down the card when the other wasn't there.

 

5. Goldust vs. Undertaker...who in the hell thought up this one? Do you like the matchup? Hate it?

 

I actually liked it. Loved it as a transitional feud. The only part I didn't like was the gay overtones because it seemed like once they brought Marlena out and they were interacting, they could cut the "Is he or isn't he?" stuff.

 

6. Last one, would a strap match be a good gimmick to bring back into the current landscape of the WWE? Or is a bullrope match a perfectly acceptable alternative?

 

I could live with as an ends to a feud or a second PPV match between competitors.

 

 

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I thought I had read something about the time that USA had to edit a lot of the Goldust-Undertaker stuff because of the "homosexual interactions".

 

 

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I think it was that awful angle with Bulldog/HBK/Diana that drove me over to watching WCW more during that time period. That and the initial Outsiders stuff. Keep in mind that THIS was Shawn's first feud after winning the title. He faced Diesel at the April PPV but that was more blowing off a previous issue.

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1. Diana Smith, good or bad? Not good as in good looking, but does she do a good enough acting job to make a piss-poor angle at least somewhat believable? Or do you just say...wow, get off my television.

 

It was ok, but even 12 years later I have no clue why she turned heel, assuming she is a heel. I still remember the accuastions though, funny stuff.

 

2. Double pin finishes, good or bad?

 

Bad, but I did mark out hearing Finkel say NEWWWWWWWWWW champion, unfortunately that didn't last.

 

3. Yokozuna...why in the world is he employed at this point in time? Was there any possible benefit from having him around?

 

They probably felt they invested enough in him, maybe they wanted to push him again afterwards. Once the weight was gone.

 

 

4. If not for Marc Mero's injury later in the year, how far up the card could he have risen? Also, is he rela

ted to Little Richard?

 

He did move high enough winning the IC title, but I think that was his glass ceiling.

 

5. Goldust vs. Undertaker...who in the hell thought up this one? Do you like the matchup? Hate it?

 

I SOOOOOOOOOOOOO badly wanted Undertaker to win the IC title. I thought the WWE wanted to rebuild the IC title and this looked like the route they were going. I wanted Taker to put Goldust in the casket and win the strap.

 

6. Last one, would a strap match be a good gimmick to bring back into the current landscape of the WWE? Or is a bullrope match a perfectly acceptable alternative?

 

I liked the Savio-Austin series. Good matches that were intense. It's a good gimmick, but it needs the right guys to do the match. Unless I'm wrong, wasn't the last strap match Rock/HHH in 1998?

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I thought I had read something about the time that USA had to edit a lot of the Goldust-Undertaker stuff because of the "homosexual interactions".

Goldust dryhumping unconscious Undertaker was indeed heavily edited by USA.

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Gay stalker Goldust was the best thing about WWF in '96, until I realized that it was the same exact angle every month, just with a different homophobic face programmed against him. Him giving "mouth-to-mouth" to Ahmed Johnson was fucking hilarious.

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Also, as an 11-year-old, I thought Bulldog's promo at the end of "Good Friends, Better Enemies" was pretty great.

 

Hendrix: Davey Boy Smith, you've got to be the happiest-

Bulldog: STINKIN' ROTTEN PERVERT SHAWN MICHAELS!

Monsoon: What?

Bulldog: HE WANTS TO SLEEP WITH MY WIFE?

Monsoon: WHAT?

Bulldog: I CAN'T WAIT FOR MAY 26TH, I'M GONNA GET HIM RIGHT NOW!

 

As a paranoid non sequitur, this was pretty hilarious since the angle was just starting and I had no idea what he was talking about. The whole feud should have been Bulldog making increasingly strange accusations against HBK, like when Fred Phelps said "The President of the United States gets his jollies masturbating horses." Tell me that wouldn't get over.

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For what it's worth, I remember the original PPV feed caught Diana Smith getting into the ring after the match and cut to the ringside cameraman a little too soon, going right up her dress. She was either going commando or wearing a very skimpy g-string.

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Also, as an 11-year-old, I thought Bulldog's promo at the end of "Good Friends, Better Enemies" was pretty great.

 

Hendrix: Davey Boy Smith, you've got to be the happiest-

Bulldog: STINKIN' ROTTEN PERVERT SHAWN MICHAELS!

Monsoon: What?

Bulldog: HE WANTS TO SLEEP WITH MY WIFE?

Monsoon: WHAT?

Bulldog: I CAN'T WAIT FOR MAY 26TH, I'M GONNA GET HIM RIGHT NOW!

 

As a paranoid non sequitur, this was pretty hilarious since the angle was just starting and I had no idea what he was talking about. The whole feud should have been Bulldog making increasingly strange accusations against HBK, like when Fred Phelps said "The President of the United States gets his jollies masturbating horses." Tell me that wouldn't get over.

 

It was odd...I was at that PPV and we could see Bulldog coming out to the ring while the refs were trying to hold him back and we had no clue why he was doing that. We ddin't get to see the backstage segment first.

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1. Diana Smith, good or bad? Not good as in good looking, but does she do a good enough acting job to make a piss-poor angle at least somewhat believable? Or do you just say...wow, get off my television. With Diana Smith, the less she was used the better. I thought she did a servicable job as the concerned spectator but in storylines, she sucked. Just terrible. I know you didn't ask...but looks wise, I always had a thing for Diana Hart. She looked like a really version of my high school drama teacher.

 

2. Double pin finishes, good or bad? Depends on the situation. As the main event for a PPV, even a lesser one like this, I don't like it. When you're paying $30 for a PPV (or $24.95 or whatever Beware of Dog cost at the time), you expect some sort of a finish.

 

3. Yokozuna...why in the world is he employed at this point in time? Was there any possible benefit from having him around? Name value. Speaking from the perspective of someone who was at his highest peak of markdom at the time, it still meant something when guys beat Yokozuna even though he was an immobile fat fuck.

 

4. If not for Marc Mero's injury later in the year, how far up the card could he have risen? Also, is he related to Little Richard? I think he would have definitely been in the IC title scene. May have become the guy that the top heel beats on his way to facing Michaels but I don't think he would have ever been a regular main eventer. As for the second question, I'm not sure but I wouldn't put WCW pass saying he was at one point.

 

5. Goldust vs. Undertaker...who in the hell thought up this one? Do you like the matchup? Hate it? It was an OK transitional feud. Again the gay elements were kind of awkward. I've always looked at The Undertaker as kind of asexual (can zombies even get it on? That's a question for the LSD folder CTDWAT I guess). Anyway, yeah the feud was nothing particularly good or bad by mid 90s Undertaker standards.

 

6. Last one, would a strap match be a good gimmick to bring back into the current landscape of the WWE? Or is a bullrope match a perfectly acceptable alternative? Yes, I'm a big strap match and bullrope match mark. It think they make the perfect gimmick match before the blowoff to a feud gimmick match. The two are really interchangable (along with chain matches) but when was the last time one of them was used a stipulation for a big PPV match anyways? There's probably been one since but the last one I remember was Triple H Vs Kane in a chain match at Judgment Day '01.

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The last strap match was HHH-Rock on 9/21/99, IIRC. That was the SmackDown! episode where HHH had an inferno match, a casket match, a chokeslam match, and a boiler room brawl as well.

 

I think they could have done a better job of explaining Goldust's dryhumping/makeout antics as humiliation tactics, which could have established the faces not as bigots but seeking to avenge embarassment.

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The last strap match was HHH-Rock on 9/21/99, IIRC. That was the SmackDown! episode where HHH had an inferno match, a casket match, a chokeslam match, and a boiler room brawl as well.

 

I think they could have done a better job of explaining Goldust's dryhumping/makeout antics as humiliation tactics, which could have established the faces not as bigots but seeking to avenge embarassment.

 

JBL faced Eddy at the Great American Bash in a strap match.

 

JBL also faced Batista in a strap match on the first episode of Friday Night Smackdown.

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Technically those aren't strap matches though....aren't those more like Texas bullrope or cow bell matches? A strap would indicate leather, whereas the JBL matches I think used rope.

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Correct. The question was regarding strap matches, not bullrope matches.

Besides, the last bullrope match was Dusty-Orton at GAB 2007.

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