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cabbageboy
If this is all true about Molly I'd like to meet her sometime.  :-D

I dunno, those Trish pics are just goofy "two girls in the shower" type things.  They weren't actually having lez sex, it is only implied.  

I remember my dad (a longtime Michaels hater) taking shots at Michaels, stuff like "I bet he's getting pushed down our throats so hard because he and Vince are gay lovers."  That kinda thing.  This was years before Bret said anything about it.

My dad also knew Brian Christopher was Lawler's son, we're talking years before it was even an angle on TV where that was revealed.  Of course, anyone could tell they look similar.
Lord of The Curry
I can't believe people haven't mentioned Heyman yet. If you read the FAQ section on the old Smarks site they had a section on Heyman and how the rumours are persistent about it. But then again, would a gay man book an angle involving two hot lesbians?

Other rumoured fudge-packers....

Jeff Hardy
Brooklyn Brawler
Raven

I've also heard the following are switch-hitters....

HHH
Lita
Vince
RetroRob215
He's not with the WWF anymore, but Mel Phillips is gay.  He allegedly forced the ring boys to allow him to do stuff to them.  When the WWF was sued because of his pedophile acts, Phillips quitely disappeared.

Gorilla & Jesse commented on Terry Gordy's sexuality a few times (Wrestler X graduated from Gordy's school of hardknocks, or something like that).  

The Brawler has been rumored to of had relations with Patterson in hopes for a push (WrestleMania V maybe?) and many people think that is the only reason the Brawler is still with the WWF today.

Judging from the past, if a current WWF wreslter is gay, you probably won't find out about it until they retire, or a lawsuit comes up.
KOR420
Billy Gunn and not because of his current gimmick,he just looks and sounds gay no matter what
RetroRob215
KOR, homosexuality isn't a style (hair & voice), it's a sexual preference.  You guys are so fucking stereotypical and prejudice, it's unbelievable.
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whodafuc cares who's gay??
Vern Gagne
I find it strange that HHH was dating Chyna when she really looked like a man.
RickyB
QUOTE(RetroRob215 @ Mar. 30 2002,14:42)
KOR, homosexuality isn't a style (hair & voice), it's a sexual preference.  You guys are so fucking stereotypical and prejudice, it's unbelievable.

Yep, your right.  I know people who sound like the steriotypical gay and dress like steriotypical gay's but they are completely straight.
Risk
Trish said on LAW that she HAS dated Raven.  That negates those theories.  I think it's cool that Molly is a Christian and is waiting, I can respect that.  Anyways, the thing about people is they are always predjudice against SOMETHING.  A lot  people are racist, sexist, judmental, kill animals for fun, and are generally sick.  I don't have much faith in most people.

I tend not to like hypocrites, even though we all are.  

Closing statments: Freedom is both a good and bad thing.  Some people believe homosexuality is okay and some do not.  Nothing wrong with having your opinions on the matter.   Being a Christian, I don't believe it is right, but that is my opinion.  Others may have differant ones.  

The important thing is not to hurt people because of their religion or preference to controversial things.
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Christ on a cracker isn't Raven 38 while Trish is 25 or 24.  I guess Trish digs the grunge guys.
buffybeast
Lord, if half of these rumors are true, then WWF is nothing but a cest pool!  Linda forcing favors from Divas?  Vince and Shawn having sex?  Announcers and ringboys?

Do I really want to try and get a PR job with WWF when I graduate????
Tha Cunnysmythe
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Trish said on LAW that she HAS dated Raven.


That Trish has, or Molly?

If Molly, I'm kind of disappointed. If Trish, I'm not surprised.

Buffy, is Brock your new Albert?
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I've heard that Saturn and Terri are/were together and that Trish and Val Venis are/were together, even outside of the angles. I don't know how legit they are, though.
Some Guy
Retro Rob it is Terry Garvin, not Terry Gordy who Gorrila used to joke about, Garvin was an agent or something and he apparently would proposition wrestlers in the shower.  If the wrestler knocked him out they were said to have graduated from the Terry Garvin school, I can't remember what exactly Monsoon used to call it.

I've heard that Lilian Garcia is a lesbian.  Trish is said to be her best friend, which doesn't make Trish gay.
Tha Cunnysmythe
Lilian's married.

EDIT: To a man.
Some Guy
ok, I didn't know that she was married.  But I remember reading somwhere that she was a carpet muncher. Appartently she isn't.
RetroRob215
Thanks SomeGuy, I wasn't sure about Gordy, but I knew it was a Terry.  Terri is married and so is Saturn, so they probably aren't an item.
Risk
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Thanks SomeGuy, I wasn't sure about Gordy, but I knew it was a Terry.  Terri is married and so is Saturn, so they probably aren't an item.


OR are they? (Thunder crashes)  Anyways, they looked close that one time on Heat, so I guess that is where the rumors started.  I know Bob Holly is married to the former B.B. (Shudders)
buffybeast
"Buffy, is Brock your new Albert? "

Cunnysmythe, Nah, no one could ever replace Albert as the man of my sexual fantasies. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(muzanisa @ Mar. 30 2002,06:10)
I've only heard the Jeff Hardy rumours on this website although on others and in the sheets it has been broadly hinted that he has a bad drug problem.

How have they done this? And if he did have a drug problem why wouldn't he be fired?

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LAW radio has hinted that the Iron Sheik is gay.

how did they hint it?

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After Zenk left the WWF is was rumoured that it was because him and Martel had a lovers tiff which was complete bullshit as both of them are hetrosexual to the best of anyones knowledge.

Who rumored this? And when was Tom Zenk in the WWF?

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The rumour is that Vince is a predator to everyone in the WWF male and female and that Linda only picks on the ladies.

What do you mean by predator muzanisa?

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The guy who played Nailz (Walchoz?) has stated that as fact. But then again he's also stated on the witness stand that he hates Vince McMahon.

Why was he on the witness stand? for what?

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I'm pretty hazy on the Patterson thing. The black ring annoucher they had was implicated and I think the guy who bought it up was a jobber they bought in for TV.

What was this whole thing? I don't even know what your talking about! ???

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At the time of the steroid scandal Patterson was fired because him and others were alledged to have harassed employees into performing sexual favours under threat of not getting a push or in exchange for a push. It never went to court and he was obviously re-hired.

Is this where is was revealed Patterson was gay? And how did this come out in a steroid trial?
JerryDrake
QUOTE(buffybeast @ Mar. 31 2002,18:18)
"Buffy, is Brock your new Albert? "

Cunnysmythe, Nah, no one could ever replace Albert as the man of my sexual fantasies. tongue.gif

In the worlds of The Rock,

YOU SICKKKKKKK FREAK.
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QUOTE(Tha Cunnysmythe @ Mar. 30 2002,09:33)
That was a misunderstanding. The interviewer asked if Steph was wild in college, and Lawler said "ask Bruce Pritchard". What he meant was that Bruce had stories about her in college, rather than that Bruce had fucked her.

How do you know that it was a misunderstanding?

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Dawn Marie said he was very intelligent.  *shrugs*

What does that have to do with anything Risk?

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He's not with the WWF anymore, but Mel Phillips is gay.  He allegedly forced the ring boys to allow him to do stuff to them.  When the WWF was sued because of his pedophile acts, Phillips quitely disappeared.

Who is Mel Phillips? Is he in jail for this?

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The Brawler has been rumored to of had relations with Patterson in hopes for a push (WrestleMania V maybe?) and many people think that is the only reason the Brawler is still with the WWF today.

Why at WM5? And I think Brawler is with them because they liked his jobber character at first and then they took him on as a road agent because they thought he fit the job.

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Judging from the past, if a current WWF wreslter is gay, you probably won't find out about it until they retire, or a lawsuit comes up.

How do you mean?

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I've heard that Lilian Garcia is a lesbian.  Trish is said to be her best friend, which doesn't make Trish gay.

Best friend in the WWF or best friend period?

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Retro Rob it is Terry Garvin, not Terry Gordy who Gorrila used to joke about, Garvin was an agent or something and he apparently would proposition wrestlers in the shower.  If the wrestler knocked him out they were said to have graduated from the Terry Garvin school, I can't remember what exactly Monsoon used to call it.

That really happened? And I thought Terry Garvin and Jim Garvin only ever wrestled for NWA. And wouldn't he fired for doing that? And why would they let Gorilla joke about that?
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Sorry for all the questions....I am curious that's all. tongue.gif
Risk
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What does that have to do with anything Risk?


It didn't mean anything, I just always see wrestling women in interviews saying stuff like that.  IT WASN'T EVEN RELATED TO THE POST.  I had just heard rumors, RUMORS, he dated someone in ECW.  I was thinking that was why Trish dated him.
teke184
According to Missy Hyatt's shoot interview (and take THAT source for what you will):

-Rick Martel is gay  (Some question came up about his partner in the Can-Am Connection, Tom Zenk, and she went quite a bit out of her way to say "No, RICK was the gay one.")

-Mike "Soul Train" Jones (Virgil/Vincent) got his job in the WWF because he's got a huge tool and let an unnamed WWF official service him

-Tom Zenk isn't gay and neither was Brian Pillman (There's apparently some story about a three-way between the two of them and Terri Boatright/Runnels that got twisted into Zenk and Pillman doing each other by the time New Jack said it at an ECW show.


If you want the dirt on many of the wrestlers in the past 20 years, I highly recommend Missy's shoot because she is VERY candid about certain people's habits, be they sexual, drug-related, etc.  (She went off on a tangent about Jake the Snake being the MacGuyver of crack at one point because he could make a pipe out of anything, and was quick to throw around accusations of certain people being gay or complements on the size of a person's package)



As for other sources, it's been implied by MANY on the shoot interviews that the Brooklyn Brawler is still around because he's Pat Patterson's bitch.  According to Tony Atlas, Rocky Johnson (The Rock's dad) supposedly made cracks about it to Brawler's face shortly before Wrestlemania 13.  (It should be noted that Atlas HATES  his ex-partner Johnson, though, so the story may be slightly twisted or blown completely out of proportion)
DebilitatorX
Vince WAS sexually abused by his stepdad as a child, so you never know...
spman
Even though they're both married with families, it wouldnt surpirse me int he least to find out that Mick Foley and Al Snow got it on on occasion.
justcoz
Jesuit Pig, I'll do my best to help you with some of the questions...

Mel Phillips was a black WWF television personality for quite sometime.  He had a role as a ring attendent and was beaten by Terry Funk in Terry's WWF debut in 1985 for putting on Terry's cowboy hat while taking his ring jacket.  This was a worked angle but was made to look like a shoot to get Terry over a heel.  Phillips would later be the ring announcer on WWF Wrestling Challenge or any television show which The Fink didn't have that gig.

During the WWF steroid scandal, a sex scandal also surfaced where Barry Orton appeared on the Larry King Show and made allegations that Terry Garvin, then a WWF road agent, had demanded sexual relations from Barry in return for a push.  Following this, several former WWF employees, mostly crew, made similar allegations toward Garvin, Pat Patterson and Mel Phillips, all known homosexuals.  Terry Garvin and Pat Patterson's sexuality was often a joke in WWF commentary between Gorilla Monsoon, Jesse Ventura and/or Bobby Heenan.

Pat Patterson was recognized as the master of the go behind.  During Steve Lombardi/Brooklyn Brawler matches jokes would be made that Lombardi was a "graduate of the Pat Patterson school of wrestling".  They would throw in digs about Terry Garvin too and it must have just been seen by the WWF as inside humor that the general public wouldn't get.

The sex scandal made episodes of Donahue, Geraldo and again Larry King where I think Vince appeared one on one with Bruno Sammartino who stated that it was known by the WWF that Mel Phillips was a child sex offender who had molested younger fans outside of WWF venues.

Garvin, Patterson and Phillips were let go by the WWF to save face.  Garvin would pass away, I'm not sure what became of Phillips and Patterson would be rehired by the WWF for his match booking genius.

Tom Zenk was in the WWF as Rick Martel's tag team partner in the Can Am Connection.  They were receiving a push as one of the WWF's premiere tag teams before it was suddenly announced that Zenk had abandoned Martel and Tito Santana replaced him as Rick's partner in Strike Force.

Hope that helps.  I've followed this stuff for years.  Probably have some of this stuff on video if I dig for it.
muzanisa
Thanks for the answers justcoz


Quote (muzanisa @ Mar. 30 2002,06:10)
I've only heard the Jeff Hardy rumours on this website although on others and in the sheets it has been broadly hinted that he has a bad drug problem.

How have they done this? And if he did have a drug problem why wouldn't he be fired?

In the Observer review of the WM match it was mentioned that he's lost too much weight and he said that he had a problem that was being ignored and something had to be done. Other stuff is that he has lifestyle issues, oversleeps, that his lifestyle is out of control and just stuff that hints that he's got a problem. As they don't say that he's drinking which they normally do like with Crash and the weight loss which I can't say I've noticed on top of the sleeping I've interpretated that as a drug problem. Could be wrong hope I am.


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LAW radio has hinted that the Iron Sheik is gay.

Dynamite Kid interview I think and he said that he and Sheik never hung out because they didn't have the same taste in dates. When pressed he said that Sheik hung around with Patterson.

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After Zenk left the WWF is was rumoured that it was because him and Martel had a lovers tiff which was complete bullshit as both of them are hetrosexual to the best of anyones knowledge.

Who rumored this? And when was Tom Zenk in the WWF?
Zenk's said this on many of his interviews.

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The rumour is that Vince is a predator to everyone in the WWF male and female and that Linda only picks on the ladies.

What do you mean by predator muzanisa? I mean that he is alledged to go up to anyone he fancies and pressure them for sexual favours.

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The guy who played Nailz (Walchoz?) has stated that as fact. But then again he's also stated on the witness stand that he hates Vince McMahon.

Why was he on the witness stand? for what?
He was a witness in the Steroid trial and alledged that Vince told Rude and others to go on Roids. In cross examination he was asked whether he hated VKM to which he replied yes.


Oh and  these are just rumours that have been put about by disgruntled ex-employees so take them for what they're worth.
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After Zenk left the WWF is was rumoured that it was because him and Martel had a lovers tiff which was complete bullshit as both of them are hetrosexual to the best of anyones knowledge.

Who rumored this? And when was Tom Zenk in the WWF?
Zenk's said this on many of his interviews.


It wasn't because of No gay crap that Tom Zenk left the WWF. Zenk and others have said that Zenk found out that Rick Martel was getting paid more so he got into an argument with Management and quit.

As far as listening to people like Missy Hyatt or Dynamite kid, they are pretty bitter and have been called out for their bull shit lies in the past.

Damn, at least bitter bastards like Bret Hart & Honky Tonk Man and even LOD don't spread BS Rumors.
Choken One
It never seems to stop shocking me, to see you idiots obsession for knowing whose a Homosexual performer. Is Pat Patterson Homosexual? Yes. He's admitted to it many times. Is Jeff Hardy Homosexual? He's never came out and it's most likely that people are reading into stereotypes of his writing Poetry (Which chicks dig), he sews (Alot of Guys Sew, includeing myself), has Multi-colored hair (Character for all we know) and so many others, most likely overblown. Is Raven Gay? Because of a Off hand joke from a guy whose protrays more "Gay Stereotypes" then him, Steven Richards, people are quick to jump to conclusions.

Vince McMahon is rumored to have recieved Oral Coppulation from male employees but that does not mean he is "Gay" but merely used his power. Linda McMahon is rumored to have done the same thing with her female "DIVAS" and to answer someone's question eariler "Umm. How can Linda be a Homosexual?" , um...Homosexualtiy is not limited to Male/Male relations but also Female/Female relationships, notice the root word "HOMO".

Trish Stratus has posed with Females in sexually provoctive photo shoots prior to her debut in WWF. However, that can merely be a case of "worked Seduction", People hae read into the fact she has not revealed any "Boyfriend" of any short but does that mean she's gay? No, perhaps a lack of desire to have a relationship at her young age of 26. Is it out of the question to assume she perfer's the company of Ladies as opposed to Males? No, but we shan't not come to inaccurate conclusions.

And so many others are rumored to "Be Gay" as if that's wrong and tarnishful. If it were to be revealed that Smark darling Chris Beniot had a Homosexual relationship with fellow Smark darling Dean Melenko, would that change your ***** ratings of their matches? Sadly, Most of you would change them.
teke184
LOD was speculating about Vince and HBK taking rides up each others' Hershey Highways on their RF Video shoot, so I would lump them into the group of bitter wrestlers who are spreading questionable rumors if I was using your criteria.

And, BTW, when I made my post, I specifically noted sources and indicated the chances of them spreading BS stories.
What?!
Back when The Rock was in the Corporation he'd always refer to Triple H as "Half gay" and "Half queer" which made me just think "Hmmmm". Of course, it was probably part of the show, so eh.
muzanisa
Uhhh Bret started the Shawn/Vince rumour.
HTM called Lawler a paedophile.
RetroRob215
Justcoz pretty much covered the who scandal pretty well.
Risk
I think Malenko is Jewish(Not sure if they meant religion OR nationality when I read this).  So homosexuality be against his religion(if they meant religion and not nationality).
buffybeast
Homosexuality is against just about every religion, and there are plenty of Chrisitan homosexuals that I know.

Damn, I just have a hard time picturing Shawn and Vince getting it on.  I wonder about these rumors sometimes.....
The Son of Sting
What is this story about Bradshaw tieing someone up in the shower? and who did he do it to?
HartFan86
I always thought it was Buff Bagwell who was messed with by Bradshaw. I dunno why.
buffybeast
Son of Sting, the story goes that a few years back a well known WCW wrestler came to WWF.  As a part of his "initiation", Bradshaw and others supposedly commandeered him in the shower, held him down, and threatened to rape him.  Said wrestler broke into tears, begging Bradshaw's rape gang from going through with it.  Then and only then did Bradshaw and his rape gang stop.
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Heyman denied being gay, but he is old and still lives with his mom, so maybe that just makes him weird.

I once took sewing and poetry classes so i could meet chicks and i was the only guy in each class. Actually thats how i met my girlfriend. Point is theres a reason why guys who write poetry and sew are labled as homosexuals. There not very "manly" things to do. I'm not a homophobe, its just the way society is. And from experiance chicks do dig poetry, but usually you end up being their "friend", while they go out with the football player. So if you want to get them in the bed, try to hide the poetry and sewing.
The Son of Sting
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Son of Sting, the story goes that a few years back a well known WCW wrestler came to WWF.  As a part of his "initiation", Bradshaw and others supposedly commandeered him in the shower, held him down, and threatened to rape him.  Said wrestler broke into tears, begging Bradshaw's rape gang from going through with it.  Then and only then did Bradshaw and his rape gang stop.


Jesus, if that is true then there is something badly wrong in that locker room. So pretending to rape someone is Bradshaws idea of earning respect? The stories i hear about the crap that goes on backstage makes me never want to work for that company (im a trainie wrestler).
Are stories like this limited to WWF as i have never heard stuff like this from WCW or ECW.
Mystery Eskimo
God, writing poetry is an effeminate pass time? You do all know that there are far more famous male poets than female poets?

If that Bradshaw story is true, he is truly a shit-head.

I think Albert is gay biggrin.gif
The Son of Sting
Why the hell wasnt he sacked if that is true?
112-1017262888
Well Hemmingway was a crossdresser and Poe died drunk and alone.
Vyce
If it were to be revealed that Smark darling Chris Beniot had a Homosexual relationship with fellow Smark darling Dean Melenko, would that change your ***** ratings of their matches? Sadly, Most of you would change them.

I wouldn't change my ratings.

I'd also say that a Benoit / Malenko homosexual porn tape would probably get a solid ***** star rating from Scott Keith.

I mean, really, it doesn't matter if anyone's gay or not.  I just care if they're good in the ring.  They can be flaming queens the rest of the time, I don't care.  Although it IS kind of funny to make homo jokes about Vince & Shawn together.

And my personal take is that Heyman probably is gay.  He may not be, but the man is just WAY asexual.  You can't picture him with chicks.....can't really picture him with guys, but seeing as he's never really shown a whole lot of interest in chicks (other than misogyny), saying he's gay just seems like a logical argument.
Choken One
Could you Imagine Ron Jeremy with all those chicks? Not on the surface, so looks won't always tell the story?
Tha Cunnysmythe
[quote=the jesuit pig,Mar. 31 2002,22:38][quote=Tha Cunnysmythe,Mar. 30 2002,09:33]That was a misunderstanding. The interviewer asked if Steph was wild in college, and Lawler said "ask Bruce Pritchard". What he meant was that Bruce had stories about her in college, rather than that Bruce had fucked her.
How do you know that it was a misunderstanding?[/quote]
Lawler confirmed it was a misunderstanding in a subsequent interview.

[quote]Cunnysmythe, Nah, no one could ever replace Albert as the man of my sexual fantasies.[/quote]

The whole 'sexual fantasy' thing never occurred to me for some reason.. How is it possible, though? Wouldn't he crush you? Serious question.
Choken One
I don't think He'll crush her as she has admitted to being large..besides, any chick worth her salt can handle a guy that size.
Risk
Heyman is Jewish(Religion and nationality, I think), so he would probably not be gay, because of Judaismic beliefs.  Sure I can imagin him with women...

I bet he has done Francine, Dawn, Beulah, Missy, and maybe Amy(Lita).  IF he is seriously into Judaism, he would probably not sleep with any of the married women.  But, anyways, yeah, I can imagin it.  Plus, it would be literally IMPOSSIBLE for a homosexual to put THAT MUCH female ass in wrestling.

I miss EC F'n W.
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