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the max
A bunch of Canadian people on the board and no talk about this game yet?

I'm still waiting to be impressed on the gameplay. The offensive side is still easy as hell to score (setup your strategy to be 'Crash the Net' do a partial wraparound and throw a pass at the front of the net. Sixty percent of the time, it works everytime.) while the defense cannot stop anything. The players have new animations (goalies look behind them for the puck and into the air in frustration if they let in an easy one, defenseman look disappointed in themselves after getting repeatedly torched, etc.) but for the most part, it's the same game that it has been. The numbers are just too unrealistic for me. I'm averaging over nine goals a game, giving up around six. Raycroft has been the drizzling shits (his gaa is in the high 5's) and my backup isn't faring all too well either. I can get shutouts of good teams like Philly and Ottawa, but teams like Washington and Carolina knock me around and have put up double digits. It's very frustrating.

My lines:

Sturm-Bergeron-Murray
Reinprecht-Marleau-Mair
Cleary-Boyes-Afinogenov
Fitzgerald-Primeau-Mellanby

Hannan-Morris
Daley-Allen
Delmore-Warrener
kkktookmybabyaway
I haven't played a hockey game in a few years, and since this has '94 on it I figured what the heck and got it.

It's ok, I guess. What is your game length? I do 5-minute periods and get somewhat realistic stats -- not the 70-shot scoring fests.

And it's lame that in the dynasty mode that the regular season schedule stays the same...
the max
I've done 10 minute periods for as far back as I can remember.

I still haven't gotten through my first season, but with some of the players that will be available in the draft and my number of first round picks from bad teams, I'm anticipating it greatly. I'd sim the rest of the season, but I want to win my rivalry games and finish first in the conference. My team goal is advance to/past (I can't remember) the second round of the playoffs.
bob_barron
It still won't load for me b/c of my video card :-(
cbacon
Did they turn down the ridiculous hitting from last year?
Leelee
Haven't played NHL 2006... after the abomination that was 2002, I've stayed away from the EA hockey games.

I played NHL 2k6 for a while. I think I completed a season, but mostly played online. Hockey games don't stay fun for long, though. Eventually you find out all the cheap ways to score... and playing a somewhat real style of hockey goes down the drain.
Danville_Wrestling
I bought the game about a month ago and I've heavily enjoyed it. I play ten minute periods on medium and even though I do get some games that end up 8-7 (like my Maple Leafs vs. the Tampa Bay Lightning) a lot end up in the 5-4 range.

The hitting has been toned down and now the computer starts to attack your guy if he holds onto the puck too long. Also, the play seems to be more realistic in its pacing without an arcadish feel of back and forth hockey.

The skill stick makes for some easy goals, but I tend to restrict it's use unless I'm on a breakaway b/c I don't like to cheat. Call me a purist or whatever, but I try to restrict myself with what I do to make the game enjoyable and prevent lots of blowouts.

I haven't gotten through my first season but it DOES suck that they don't change your schedule from the previous year. After all, was that too much to ask for?

For $29.99 I think I got my money's worth out of this game. The last NHL game I owned was NHL 2001 which was good for its time period, but it didn't have a dynasty mode or anything like that so I got the new game.
skullman80
NHL 06 = Arcady(is that even a word) crap
NHL 2k6 = Good hockey sim w/ the right sliders.
kkktookmybabyaway
Help me out with this. I'm not a big hockey fan, so some of these terms used in the game I'm not getting.

When you make those "mini adjustments" to your lines, I understand the offensive ones "Conservative, All-Out-Attack, etc." but the defensive ones I'm a bit lost on. My public school education has me assuming what "Protect the Net" means, but what exactly is "Puck Side Attack"?...
the max
Puck-side attack means that your defenders will try to get in front of the shooter at all times, to block the shot. This is good if you have a speedy defense, since they can quickly get from one shooter to another. Normal is essentially all of the strategies in one. The only other one I can remember is 'High Pressure' which has your defenders constantly attacking shooters. This is a great style when you're down a goal or two late in the game. It's a good way of forcing turnovers. The downside is that it leaves the front of your net open to any rebounds if the shooter gets a shot off that you can't block.
AntiLeaf33
I'm a big Mark for the EA NHL series on the PC, mostly due to all of the mods you can add into the game biggrin.gif
Kapoutman
Scoring is indeed easy, but I rarely get more than 3 goals scored against. I just hit everything that crosses my blue line and it goes fine. I use Roberto Luongo as my goalie, with Biron as backup. Works like a charm.

BTW, I play 5 minutes periods on medium.
kkktookmybabyaway
QUOTE(The Max @ Dec 17 2005, 09:31 AM) *
Puck-side attack means...


Thanks. I might start up my dynsasty in a little while. I'm still getting the hang of the game play.

Another hockey question: About how many shots do most real NHL games average? When I sim it looks like the shot totals average about 25. I try to have realistic stats when I play.

Also, when defending a penalty shot, how do you control the goalie/make him perform saves?...
the max
Anywhere from 30-35 is normal. 40+ means the defense sucks. I typically average 60-70, but I can get 4-5 shots off of rebounds.

I don't know how to control the goalie on a penalty shot, since I've only had one and I missed. I would imagine that he'd be automatically controlled though...
cosbywasmurdered
He should be auto controled. He always is when I play my game (on the ps2). I got this game around when it came out on Ps2 and I still play it a heck of alot. I just started a dynasty today with the Canucks. I wish I had a connection to the internet for my ps2 so I could update the rosters though
the max
Updated rosters are OK. I'm not a fan. I kept the ones that came with the game. The AI generates trades on their own which makes things interesting. So far, I've seen Sakic and Hejduk traded to Detroit and Shane Doan traded to Columbus.
the max
I simmed my way through the rest of the season and a majority of the playoffs. I played the first two rounds (NYR and the Habs, respectively) and swept my way to the conference finals. I simmed the conference finals and beat the Islanders(!) to take on Detroit in the finals. I simmed five games of the series and lost in seven. Meh. I completed my goal, so I don't really care that much.

The off-season is pretty fun, actually. Since I had the first four picks in the draft (after unloading Murray to the Hurricanes for their third overall pick and rid myself of his 4.2 million dollar contract) I got the four best skaters in the draft.

I traded some of the deadweight guys and remade my lines:

Sturm-Bergeron-Mair
Reinprecht-Marleau-Afinogenov
Cleary-Boyes-Lombardi
Erat-Legwand-draft pick(can't remember which one)

Bouwmeester-Boynton
Hnidy-Delmore
Warrener-Daley
mike546
I'm about to get PS2 online tomorrow, and I'm really behind on the whole internet thing when it comes to video games. Is it complicated to set up? And do updated rosters for the game come from online? Or am I missing something?
mister foozel
i'm still playing nhl '04..
mister foozel
still playing nhl '04

the 20 year dynasty mode
the max
Florida made me an offer I couldn't refuse.

When I started playing, I was just messing around with contracts and accidentally managed to sign Andrew Raycroft to a three year extension for about 8.8 million a season. Oops. So, I figured nobody would want him since I offered him around and got no bites. So, I finished up last season and a week into the second year of my dynasty, Florida emails me a trade offer:

Andrew Raycroft (8.8 million)and a second round pick

for

Roberto Luongo (1.3 million).

I couldn't make the trade fast enough. I managed to reel off 13 wins in a row.
kkktookmybabyaway
Here's another franchise question.

What exactly is your "minor leagues"? Anyone that you have scratched on your roster?...
the max
Pretty much, yeah. It's kind of nice because they'll tell you when someone is playing well and suggest a promotion to the big roster. It's good to use update money on your minor league coaches because young guys will reach their potential sooner.
Danville_Wrestling
I'm about 53 games into my first year of dynasty mode as the Toronto Maple Leafs and have a record of 39-12-2. However, even though I'm in first place in the Eastern Conference I've been 0-3 against the Tampa Bay Lightning in season mode. First game I played them in I lost 11-10 b/c Martin St. Louis scored with 3:40 left, second game I lost 2-1 (10-10 in regulation) in a shootout after Mogilny missed the last shot, and in this last game stupid Eric Lindros hit Mogilny (my star player w/50+ goals and 30+ assists) in the first period with a slapshot thereby injuring Mogilny's ankle and forcing him from the game. Needless to say, after that I put Tampa Bay on the power play 8 times and gave up 6 goals on it to lose 8-4. It had to be one of the crappist games I've played so far.

On top of that, Mogilny is out for 11 days which means he'll miss a key game vs. New Jersey, a game with ATL (which I don't worry about), and a home & home series with the Rangers. In my first game without him, I squeaked by the Washington Capitals 5-4 in OT with a winning Mats Sundin goal after I intercepted a careless pass in the Washington zone when I was on a PowerPlay 4-on-3.

Who are the top teams in everyone else's dynasties? In mine, Detroit is a juggernaught and is like 45-7-1, just insane.

Finally, quick question: What are the best ways to be one of the best teams in league financing? I'm currently like 25th which is a little discouraging.
Fartsauce
I have both NHL 06 and NHL 2K6. The best way I can describe them is that 06 is the best game when it comes to graphics, sound and multiplayer. NHL 2K6 is awesome if you are into sim hockey and a game packed with features. NHL 06 is the best hockey game EA has put out in awhile but it's a bit too arcade-ish for my likes and the hitting is all too easy. On 2k6 I can actually have a realistic game and scores that vary (i win a game 5-2, i lose the next one in overtime, i win a close one, get blown out, etc)

Right now i'm in the 2nd year of my dynasy with the Oilers. I traded guys away like Ryan Smyth and draft picks to get some good players.

1st line: Rick Nash, Danny Briere, Ales Hemsky
2nd line: Moreau, Staal, Dvorak
3rd line: Rita, Horcoff, Pisani
4th line: Peterson, Reasoner, Mettinen
defenders: Smith, Staios, Hulse, Bergeron, Gill, Semenov
goalies: Fleury and Shields

The thing i liked is that i simmed the first season and loaded up on a head coach. It cost me so much money that i ended up having no money for other coaches and staff so my offense sucked dry and I finished 3rd last in the league. This is probably the only game I play now on xbox.
the max
QUOTE(Danville_Wrestling @ Dec 24 2005, 09:07 PM) *
Finally, quick question: What are the best ways to be one of the best teams in league financing? I'm currently like 25th which is a little discouraging.


Cut payroll, put money in accounting, get attendance up and don't suck.

I was always dead last in league financing with the team that I inherited, so I started selling off good, expensive players for young and cheaper players. I cut payroll from 59 million to 33 million in my first season. And since I'm the best team in the NHL right now, my attendance is huge, my revenue is in the 110's and since my accounting is good, I'm making 60-65 million a month.
cbacon
How does the downloading of new rosters work in any of these sports games? Like, can I download updated rosters half way during a season?
the max
I'm through year two of my dynasty. I am the 2006-07 Stanley Cup Champions, beating...Columbus(!) in the finals.

Luongo decided that he was suddenly worth 10.1(!) million a season, so I dealt him for picks and drafted a goaltender with 95 potential and is a 75 overall. I also drafted a left-winger and solid defenseman. My young guys have developed into 75-85 overall players with tiny contracts. I resigned Marleau to an expensive contract as he's become my franchise player.

Some tips for dynasties:

- Always have good centers. Centers can play LW or RW in an injury situation and generally have the highest potential in drafts.
- Goaltending is not worth 4+ million. There are always goaltenders available for cheap.
- Build up scouting and minor league coaching in your upgrades. Scouts allow you to land gems in your system which your minor league coach helps make into stars. Legal and Assistant GM should not be ignored either. Team building stuff is bull, don't waste your money.
kkktookmybabyaway
QUOTE(C-Bacon @ Dec 25 2005, 10:09 PM) *
How does the downloading of new rosters work in any of these sports games? Like, can I download updated rosters half way during a season?


I'm not ignoring you because you're a commie. I just don't know the answer. You might have better luck going to a Madden thread/board...
stahl
QUOTE
How does the downloading of new rosters work in any of these sports games? Like, can I download updated rosters half way during a season?


You can download updated rosters whenever they are available, they won't actually change your current season or franchise rosters. Once you download a roster update, you would have to start a new season/franchise with the updated rosters.
Brush with Greatness
NHL: EHM 2006 is by far the best hockey game ever, hands down. Sure, the game's aren 't actually playable per se, but depthwise, etc. the game totally rules. If you like hockey and sport management sims, get this game.
stahl
I've never heard of that game. Have any info on it? A hockey management game sounds neat.
Kingofthe909
QUOTE(Brush with Greatness @ Dec 30 2005, 03:28 PM) *
NHL: EHM 2006 is by far the best hockey game ever, hands down. Sure, the game's aren 't actually playable per se, but depthwise, etc. the game totally rules. If you like hockey and sport management sims, get this game.

I've looked everywhere for that game. I refuse to buy stuff online, so I can't find it in person.
stahl
Why do you refuse to buy stuff online? It's secure if thats what you are worried about. Anyone have any more info on that hockey sim? I found a site that had minor details and a few screenshots and it looks really impressive.
Kingofthe909
I refuse to buy games online because they have been defective when I've recieved them in the past.
stahl
Which merchant did you order from? Most companies will refund upon receiving the damaged merchandise, issue credit and send you another copy.
Kingofthe909
I bought from EB. I got another copy of what I had purchased, I just don't find it to be worth the hassle. I'll find the game before the end of the week.
kkktookmybabyaway
Another question, this one related to potential.

If I have a young guy with high potential, but he's not quite ready to be on my team, (Meaning I could put him on a non-scoring line, but he's not quite tough enough, and he's not yet ready to be put on a major scoring line), would it be better to put him in the minors or let him "pay his dues"?

Would he get better faster playing in a limited role on my NHL team, or just let him frolic in the minors for a season?
stahl
Give him a limited role on the third of forth line.

I find that if a player has a rating in the 50's or even low 60's with a potential in the 90's that letting them sit on the bench the whole season really hampers their development. It would be best to play that player, even over a better rated fourth liner just so he gets some ice time and can improve. Also make sure those stupid stat thingies you can buy are set for the one that raises max potential and he should develop in no time.
the max
It depends on your minor league coaching upgrade. I have three stars in that update, and most of my draft picks have gone from 55-60 overall to 75+ overall in one or two years. Some guys went on my fourth line immediately to save money, but they're in the same boat as the guys that I kept in the minors. So, I guess it's the same. It makes sense though, since my fourth line doesn't see too much time. I only use them if I've killed off a series of penalties and my top three lines are drained.
Brush with Greatness
In regards to EHM:NHL 2006 the place to get it is www.sigames.com. SI Games originally created a little soccer sim called Championship Manager. I just bought the Digital Download version, so if you don't have an issue with that, it is the way to go.

By far the best hockey game ever. I haven't even attempted the NHL yet (which has full salary cap implementation), I'm so involved with my franchise in the Western Hockey League. Junior hockey is so fun because there is such a quick turnaround on players that you're not waiting forever for picks to develop and such. Difficult to capture Memorial Cups though.
kkktookmybabyaway
Well, played my first franchise game as the Pens after tweaking my lines. Lost to NJ 4-2. Was tied late in the third then my players quit.

Oh well, there's 81 more games to go.
stahl
QUOTE
In regards to EHM:NHL 2006 the place to get it is www.sigames.com.


Thanks. I actually found it a few days ago after doing some more searches. I downloaded the try and buy version and am about 3 months in controlling the Blackhawks. The game is very detailed. I will probably buy it once the trial runs out though on the forums they are talking about releasing another version so I might just wait until then and try playing the minors and whatnot.
Danville_Wrestling
QUOTE(kkktookmybabyaway @ Jan 7 2006, 10:14 PM) *
Well, played my first franchise game as the Pens after tweaking my lines. Lost to NJ 4-2. Was tied late in the third then my players quit.

Oh well, there's 81 more games to go.


I hear ya. However, NJ is nothing. If you don't have speed watch out for when you finally have to play Tampa b/c I haven't been able to beat them yet and the last game I played them in was an utter embarassment.
the max
Tampa smoked me the first time I played them in Dynasty. Something like 10-1. I got an email from the owner after that telling me that that'd better not happen again.

The toughest team in NHL06 is Ottawa by far. That's really no surprise, but I have to play them eight times in the regular season and have played them in the conference finals three years running. Just when you think you have the game wrapped up, they tie it with two goals in :11 or something.
Brush with Greatness
QUOTE(stahl @ Jan 8 2006, 03:18 AM) *
QUOTE
In regards to EHM:NHL 2006 the place to get it is www.sigames.com.


Thanks. I actually found it a few days ago after doing some more searches. I downloaded the try and buy version and am about 3 months in controlling the Blackhawks. The game is very detailed. I will probably buy it once the trial runs out though on the forums they are talking about releasing another version so I might just wait until then and try playing the minors and whatnot.


They are not releasing another version, just a new patch. There are some issues with home ice advantage, so that patch should be updated and out probably sometime wihtin the next week or two.
kkktookmybabyaway
QUOTE(the max @ Jan 8 2006, 09:57 AM) *
The toughest team in NHL06 is Ottawa by far. That's really no surprise, but I have to play them eight times in the regular season and have played them in the conference finals three years running. Just when you think you have the game wrapped up, they tie it with two goals in :11 or something.


So far, my only complaint is I hate how the AI scores cheezy goals right after you do. For example, I just played my second game (at Carolina) and had a shot explosion after the first period (something like 10 shots to 1). I finally cracked through in the second period, but then they skated right down after the face off and scored some hippie goal with no one-timer/rebound/deflection. Of course I lose 1-1 in a shootout because I still don't know what the hell I'm doing in regards to penalty shots.

Also, they don't seem to call many penalties -- I have that slider jacked up and there's only been one penalty called in each of my first two games.

In addition, if I release players, do their salaries count against my budget or something, or do they just get released and I reap the savings? I have a LOT of old crappy players I'll never use and doubt I'll get any trade value for them.
the max
A player's trade value is seemingly only based on his overall value. Even if you have semi-old players like LeClair and others, they're still rated high so you can probably get draft picks and decent overall players.

Players' salaries are tied directly to your budget. Trade someone with a 3.3 million salary for a 1st round pick and your players salary is instantly -3.3 million.
kkktookmybabyaway
Cool. And I don't have LeClair. I have a bunch of grinders and checkers who are crap. They won't last the season.

And I won my first game 6-3 vs. the Bruins. I got two empty netters so the score is a bit misleading.

How do the defensive pairing sub in and out -- there's only 3 pairings and 4 scoring lines, so I'm assuming the defensement do their own thing.
stahl
QUOTE
They are not releasing another version, just a new patch.


This thread on their forum implies that they would release a 2007 version.

http://community.sigames.com/groupee/forum...25/m/5882024361

I hope they do.
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