Guest Downhome Posted July 12, 2002 Report Posted July 12, 2002 (I didn't know where this should be posted, as it IS having to do with WWE, but also having to do with this forum as a whole and also possibly the NHB folder, so just either keep it here or move it to where ever you feel it fits best.) Yes fellow Smarks, it has to be true. If you remember not too long ago, a poster here by the name of Redhawk recently posted the following thread... Isn't this strangely close to the following!? ...and as you can tell, it is uncomfortably close the the following "column" that Mr. Tommy just posted on 1wrestling today. Here it is... TDT: TOMMY HAS A NEW CONCEPT FOR WWE I have been recently thinking about what the next big concept in wrestling could be. There's got to be one, there always is. I have been thinking non-stop about this idea and have been coming up blank. I thought to myself that everything has been done and there's nothing else left to do that would be a hot new concept. I then thought to myself that there has to be a new concept that WWE could use that would make their shows must watch programs. After giving it much thought, I think I might have come up with a concept that would make this industry hot again. Why do sport fans watch baseball, basketball, football, and hockey? Besides the fact that they love the sport, they watch it because it's a competition and they want to see who wins. At the end of their seasons they always give the fans the big pay off. The big pay off is watching the very best compete in the play offs and than the finals for the big prize. Every game played in baseball, basketball, football, and hockey mean something because it determines whether a team gets a check in the win or lose column. In WWE, it doesn't matter if a wrestler wins his match or not. I believe WWE needs a hot new concept to not only keep their current audience hooked, but to hook all the old fans that aren't watching anymore and try and hook new sport fans into watching. The brand extension hasn't worked thus far, but with there being two separate groups, the time is perfect to use my new concept. The concept is.............Make the WWE a competition. Four times a year, WWE wrestlers will compete for the chance of winning $1 Million Dollars. They'd have to make this legit and actually give the wrestler a million dollars. Four million dollars a year to invest on this new concept would easily be worth it if it caught on. WWE could keep the win/lose records of every wrestler on Raw and Smackdown. The win/lose records would not only be television matches, it would be PPV and house show matches as well. Every week they can devote a minute of their program to post the results of house shows for that week to update the fans on the win/lose records of all the guys. When a wrestler enters the ring, they put a graphic up of his current record on the screen. After three months, the top four guys on Raw and Smackdown advance to the play offs for the chance to win $1 Million Dollars. The wrestler with the best record on Raw takes on the wrestler with the third best wrestler on Raw. The second and forth guy do the same. Same thing with the top four guys on Smackdown. The winners advance to the finals of their group. The winner of Raw then takes on the winner of Smackdown on PPV in the "$1 Million Dollar Match." How exciting would it be watching two guys wrestling each other on PPV for $1 Million Dollars? I know I'd order the PPV just to see that match. This concept would do many things. It would make a matches like Val Venis vs. Hardcore Holly actually mean something. It would make programs like Heat and Velocity must watch shows if you're following the system. It could generate more fans at the house shows to see who's going to win and lose. Most importantly, it could get ratings up. It could also be a great way to establish new stars. Usually the bigger names are programmed with each other on Raw and Smackdown. They usually trade wins back and forth. So while Kurt Angle and HHH are taking turns winning and losing matches every week, guys like Jeff Hardy, Randy Orton, and Bautista are on a hot streak winning every week. WWE could have the chance four times a year to create new superstars. I think making WWE a competition could be the new big boom period in our industry. I know I would be hooked to my television screen watching these guys compete for a million dollars. Would you? Let me know what you think of my concept by E-mailing me at: [email protected]. ...now call me crazy, but that sounds like it could very well be the same person! The ONLY other option I see, is that Tommy has been to this site, so the idea, and decided to post it as his own! We ALL know of his "original" ideas, so perhaps this is his way of coming up with them! I emailed him a link to here not long ago, so maybe he is not copying Smark ideas! Yeah, I may be crazy... ...but this, well, I just had to share it with you all! Now, besides this fact... ...what do you think of the idea such as what Tommy, errrr, Redhawk came up with? Sincerely, ...Downhome...
Guest nikowwf Posted July 12, 2002 Report Posted July 12, 2002 I think they are similar, but not the same. Anyway, I like the idea of a limited tournament, like a G-1 or a G-1 style junior tournament. Its also good for house shows, cause you feel like you saw something that is a part of the greater storyline on TV - something you could not see on TV. I don't like the scope that Tommy or Redhawk are looking at. Redhawk's idea makes the tournament the whole show, and it would suck to be honest. If its 6 guys in a round robin, or fighting each other twice each its ok, but something that streches forever is bad. Tommy's is even worse. The whole TV would be this inane tournament that is so Russoesque. Jeff Hardy beat Jobber man 12 times, but Rock only has one half as many wins because he fought angle, HHH etc. so Jeff Hardy gets the #1 slot. Way to make ALL the matches / rankings look fake. It would be the same issue the WWE draft had, on a 10,000 times bigger scale. Also, he makes the 1mm matches sound like shoots, or he wants people to believe its a shoot, which no one would. Sounds Russoesque again....WHAT YOU ARE SEEING NOW IS REAL, but everything else is a work. So, not shockingly I hate Tommy's idea. Niko
Guest Shaved Bear Posted July 12, 2002 Report Posted July 12, 2002 i urge you read the last line in my sig
Guest Downhome Posted July 12, 2002 Report Posted July 12, 2002 i urge you read the last line in my sig We need to share that with other sites and forums, get as many people to sign it as possible.
Guest Austin3164life Posted July 12, 2002 Report Posted July 12, 2002 lynch him! That's taking things a bit too far, isn't it?
Guest Mikey2Dope Posted July 12, 2002 Report Posted July 12, 2002 God I love how EVERY idea Tommy writes about will be "money" or "the thing that will make the industry hot again". "Four times a year, WWE wrestlers will compete for the chance of winning $1 Million Dollars. They'd have to make this legit and actually give the wrestler a million dollars." Well the problem with that scenario Tommy is that hockey,baseball etc. are not scripted. If you pick one guy at random to take the $1 Million Dollars you're gonna have a whole locker room of pissed of athletes bitching about their paycheques. Honestly this idea is crap. Watching UT fight HHH for a WWE Title is no more interesting that watching those two fight for $1 M Dollars. You'll have the exact same people fighting for the money as you do for the Championship and even the marks wouldn't buy Randy Orton doing just as well in the record column as Angle,Rock or HHH.
Guest jester Posted July 12, 2002 Report Posted July 12, 2002 Baseball, hockey, etc. have strict rules and structure. Wrestling's structure is extremely vague. Can anyone tell me, for example, the strict rules surrounding who gets a title shot? (answer: whatever Vince feels they are today). The advantage of this is that they can set up just about any match at any time. I actually think "million dollar match" would be a cool thing as angle (but not in place of the championship belt). Give it to the lower/midcarders. After all, it's part of the work, it's not like Vince actually has to pay it out. It would be a good thing to put Noble into. jester
Guest Brian Posted July 12, 2002 Report Posted July 12, 2002 "I like the idea of a limited tournament, like a G-1 or a G-1 style junior tournament. Its also good for house shows, cause you feel like you saw something that is a part of the greater storyline on TV - something you could not see on TV." Hey, did you get this from my fantasy booking. I was running a G-1 in the cruiserweight division and basically it's something that works out really well if you run it once a year, because it gives the winner notoriety, involves alot of people (I had twelve), and gives people at house shows a reason to think something important or consequential is happening there. Plus at the end of the tourney, you release a video with the tournament matches on TV clipped and the others, for the most part, in full and make a good amount of money. It works out perfectly because it's short enough so everything can be tracked rather easily, and gives some of the "smaller" jobs even more meaning, especially if one of the top two from each bracket loses to, say, TAKA who finished fourth. And draws, which usually have no meaning, actually end up being pretty good tools to progress storylines and put over others.
Guest nikowwf Posted July 12, 2002 Report Posted July 12, 2002 Nah, i got it from Japan. I watch tapes of TV shows sometimes...Japanese video store gets a compilation of current New Japan / All Japan / NOAH once a week. Niko
Guest Prince Paul Posted July 12, 2002 Report Posted July 12, 2002 lynch him! That's taking things a bit too far, isn't it? no
Guest the 1inch punch Posted July 13, 2002 Report Posted July 13, 2002 lynch him! That's taking things a bit too far, isn't it? no No, I agree, Lynch Him
Guest mach7 Posted July 13, 2002 Report Posted July 13, 2002 Man why do you people bother giving this guy publicity? If no one talked about him, he'd probably disappear. If anything, you're the ones keeping him around and giving him incentive to write his crap-ass columns.
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