Guest Mattdotcom Posted July 20, 2002 Report Posted July 20, 2002 Right, since the weekend's topic seems to be The Next Big Thing's lack of Current Big Heat, I thought I'd raise a question that's been bothering me for the last few days. We all know that when Steve Austin walked out, he did so because he was booked to wrestle and presumably job to Brock Lesnar. The question: Would a win over Austin have propelled Brock to the heights of heeldom? I think not. Brock's role was rewritten that night to costing Flair ownership of RAW. No one cared. It was overshadowed. It was barely played up on. Now, the two situations are apples and oranges, but do you think Austin would job clean? Whatever Brock and friends had to do to beat Steve would overshadow the victory. Discuss.
Guest cabbageboy Posted July 20, 2002 Report Posted July 20, 2002 Austin was never going to outright job to Brock, if Brock had won it would have been due to copious Eddie interference. Hell, Regal got a similar win on Austin and how much good did it do him?
Guest creativename Posted July 20, 2002 Report Posted July 20, 2002 Agreed. The uber-interference that would have been necessary to beat Austin would have made Lesnar could like a weak jackass. But if the win was semi-clean (i.e., Lesnar using foreign objects on his own but no outside interference or Heyman interference) then it probably would have given Lesnar a decent rub.
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Posted July 20, 2002 Report Posted July 20, 2002 Of course, Brock can't even beat Test without Heyman interference... The Austin job would have meant nothing, because there would be no buildup or story. "Oh, by the way fans, Brock's fighting Austin in an hour." Which, if I remember right, is what got Austin PO'ed in the first place.
Guest HartFan86 Posted July 20, 2002 Report Posted July 20, 2002 Giving it on free TV with no buildup would have done shit for Brock, if it was build up and put on a big PPV....well, yeah. And, he has to beat him clean, too. Some gay interference win will do shit.
Guest Anglesault Posted July 21, 2002 Report Posted July 21, 2002 No. As soon as he sold for Jeff hardy and Stasiak, he was fucked. Plus, Austin was right. Giving an unover Brock a win over Austin with no build up is insane
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Posted July 21, 2002 Report Posted July 21, 2002 No. The RAW magazine about Austin's walk out said that Eddy was going to special ref that match... so any heat would have gone on Eddy.
Guest Incandenza Posted July 21, 2002 Report Posted July 21, 2002 No. Anyone who lacks heat will not magically gain it just from pinning one person, no matter how high on the card that person is.
Guest Mindless_Aggression Posted July 21, 2002 Report Posted July 21, 2002 Anglesault said it best, as soon as he sold Matt Hardy and Jeff Hardy's devastating offensive attack of punches, kicks and jumping clotheslines with the occasional Matt Hardy spinny punch mixed in, he was fucked. HE did the same for Stasiak. The same man who got squashed by SPIKE DUDLEY. Austin was right. HE shouldn't have walked out, but Lesnar going over him with no build up to it and no heat for Lesnar was just dumb.
Guest Brian Posted July 21, 2002 Report Posted July 21, 2002 Austin seems to have been right alot, but his methods have to be questioned.
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Posted July 21, 2002 Report Posted July 21, 2002 If I were in the WWE right now...and I wasn't Taker, HHH, Lesnar...and maybe a couple of other people... I don't know how much I would disagree with Austin's assessment...and his getting the F out.
Guest jester Posted July 21, 2002 Report Posted July 21, 2002 A lot of people think another Montreal incident was avoided by Austin walking out, and I think they're right. Austin didn't want to cooperate, so if he'd stayed Vince probably would have worked him into a match where he thought one thing was going to happen. but something else entirely takes place. Which begs an interesting question....what would have happened after an Austin screwjob? The rebirth of McMahon as the evil owner, more hated than ever before? jester
Guest HartFan86 Posted July 21, 2002 Report Posted July 21, 2002 A lot of people think another Montreal incident was avoided by Austin walking out, and I think they're right. Austin didn't want to cooperate, so if he'd stayed Vince probably would have worked him into a match where he thought one thing was going to happen. but something else entirely takes place. Exactly. That's the only reason I'm glad Austin left.
Guest The Man in Blak Posted July 21, 2002 Report Posted July 21, 2002 Not only would it have not gotten him any heat, but methinks that it would have given Lesnar that wonderful "blue chipper Rocky Maivia" type-heat where nobody even wanted to take him seriously. Austin was one of the top three most over guys in the company when he left, and (as it's been said many times before) having him go over on the fly like that probably would have caused quite a backlash.
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