WWE misses opportunity....again

[Guest snuffbox]

The crowd last night was pretty hot for Flair, WWE doesnt get hot crowd every night anymore. It was a non-title match, and Rocks allready over, as was Flair, especially in Greensboro. It would have popped the crowd if Flair got a win, clean or not and that would have looked really good on television. Instead they have Flair do the job, kill the crowd, and piss off 12,000 people. WCW tried the 'piss off the crowd' technique...theyre still doin good right? Vince really needs to start to focus on making HIS product look good, not making the old nwa/wcw look bad. A big pop on tv looks really good, noone cares if its for a guy who worked for nwa/wcw. The show is wwe raw and it makes there product look good to have a big mark-out moment. At the end of the day though vince is the bookerman and if he wants to hurt his company thats his choice...he should realize though that none of the current fanbase gives a fuck about ric flair in the nwa/wcw and hes just missing opportunities to make wwe look good for a change

[Guest Nevermortal]

Well, Raw is turning into Nitro, so the Flair Screwing Continues!

[Guest thebigjig]

Flair should've gone over. The man is still useful, but instead of actually making a good use out of him, they're making him play Hogan and job to everybody. This is supposed to be his last run... at least give the guy a few high profile wins for God's sake

 

That and they went about it all wrong last night. Flair vs. Rock was a ppv quality main event, and not only did they give it away on free tv, but they also spent very little time hyping it

 

That and they didn't give them nearly enough time. If they would've gotten at least 15 minutes, the match would've been great I think. But instead they got... what, 8 minutes?

[Guest BoboBrazil]

Flair should not have gone over. Rock has a world title match on the next PPV. If he jobbed here it would have made him look bad going into the PPV. Flair winning just to pop a hometown crowd isn't smart business.

[Guest oldschoolwrestling]

So when the WWE goes back to Tennessee and Lawler does his little wrestling match he always does, should he go over Rock too to please the crowd?

[Guest Hogan Made Wrestling]

Flair didn't have to go over. The handshake and mutual respect thing at the end were more than enough to send the crowd home happy. If they were pissed, it was probably because of Jericho's little stunt.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

Fuck the Rock.

 

I mean...if we were talking about someone who was on the active roster the whole year...then I'd say Flair has no business winning.

 

But the Rock is just a side show at this point.

 

if we think just 5 weeks into the future...the Rock is gone for several more months and the old man is more valuable to the WWE in ring than the absentee actor.

[Guest Goodear]

Funny how everyone thinks Rock should be jobbing every week. First match he's back, it was to Angle, the next week it was be Eddie, now its Flair. Rock's World Champion right now, jobbing him to anyone and everyone will lessen the impact when he finally does do a job for someone at an important venue. This is booking 101, people.

[Guest Y2DAYDAY]

No way does Flair beating ROCK makes any sense. First off, ROCK is the top guy right now. Flair is on his last legs and is not taken seriously as a top drawing wrestler anymore(though he is a ratings draw when he is on TV, no one views his as a threat to the real top guys).

 

Also, if Flair would have beat ROCK, it would have lessen the impact when Brock does it.

[Guest Ripper]

And ROck isn't even doing that freaking movie anymore. The only other project he is signed on to do is that Spyhunter movie I do believe, and they haven't even started talking about when shooting starts for that.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

What are you talking about?

 

Heldorado?

 

Since when isn't he doing that?

[Guest Chuck Woolery]

Actually, you've got it wrong. Rock was scheduled to do a movie about a Hawaiian king after Helldorado, but the studio passed him over for that role because... he's not Hawaiian. Sigh.

 

- Mike Van Siclen.

Knows stuff.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

Yeah he's still gone in a few weeks.

 

Which is a good reason why he shouldn't have the title.

[Guest Chuck Woolery]

I totally agree... I think they should've given Angle the title, because even though heel/heel matches don't draw, you could still have Lesnar turn on Heyman to turn him face. You have no idea how much I'd mark for Angle/Lesnar at Summerslam, or even Unforgiven.

 

- Mike Van Siclen.

Mike marks out. Yes he does.

[Guest Goodear]

Yeah he's still gone in a few weeks.

 

Which is a good reason why he shouldn't have the title.

That's very true. But with the situation the way it is now, there's no reason to be jobbing Rock to everyone. Heck, if I got to decide the bookings, the title wouldn't be anywhere near Rock or Brock. Booker or RVD would have it.

[Guest Nevermortal]

Actually, you've got it wrong. Rock was scheduled to do a movie about a Hawaiian king after Helldorado, but the studio passed him over for that role because... he's not Hawaiian. Sigh.

 

- Mike Van Siclen.

Knows stuff.

Yeah, HHH is directing.

[Guest Just call me Dan]

Ric shouldn't have gone over Rock. But I seriously thought that was going to be his last match. Do you think that WAS going to be his announcement and HE is going to put over Jericho just like Foley did to HHH? I hope so, that would really be good for Chris. It could be all in vain though because if he still can't beat HHH or Cena, what the hell did Ric help?

[Guest snuffbox]

Just to clarify....WWE missing this opportunity comes from a very old school perspective. You all know that the Rock is over, most anywhere, and Flair is mad over in North Carolina. Flair hasnt really dont much of merit for years and Rock is a legit celebrity but in Greensboro Flair has the crowd in his hands. A television show looks good when the studio audience participates positively....the same goes for WWE Raw and last night, for the first time in a while, the crowd was really hot and there was an opportunity to have a crazy pop. Rock doesnt need to job. Flair can win by cheating or interferance or dq and the crowd would have popped just the same and Rock saves face and title. Flair and Rock shake hands and Flair gets ready to make his announcement. Chris attacks and it has more meaning because the audience is solidly behind Ric. Right now what the WWE needs more than anything is to look good aesthetically, and last night didnt look nearly as good as it could have. The audience participates, Jericho-Flair has credibilty, Flair doesnt continue to look like a joke, WWE looks good in the south which hurts the NWATNA, Rock keeps title and can definitly stay over, and Raw has a mad pop/mad heat to end a show. Instead its booked to lessen Flairs credibility, kill a hot crowd(the crowd was dead, there wasnt near as much heat as there could have been), and Rock goes over even though he wont even be around in a month or so.

[Guest Just call me Dan]

I think the main problem was the lack of time and build. I'm sure Flair could have looked much, much better if the match was given more time. It's hard to do that when the roster is so crowded and this match really suffered because of that.

[Guest oldschoolwrestling]

Flair can win by cheating or interferance or dq and the crowd would have popped just the same and Rock saves face and title

The thing that has been lacking the past few months or so is clean finishes. The last thing they need to keep doing is run ins, dq's and cheating to win. They need to start having clean finishes, especially when you are going to put a heel over.

[Guest Just call me Dan]

They really have been doing that a lot lately. It is very pleasing.

[Guest snuffbox]

I agree, this match would be much better suited for ppv...with buildup and 30 minutes to work with. And sports entertainment finishes arent usually a good thing but in this case a cheap win for Flair would have gone over just as well as a clean win. Flairs is known as the dirtiest player in the game, especially by his southern hardcore fanbase and a cheap win would have popped the crowd just as well. The main problem here, for me anyway, is that the WWE continues to waste these golden opportunitie, apparently only because Vince still holds a grudge against Ted Turner. If im Vince i swallow my fucking pride for one night and let the WCW guy go over for the sake of a monster pop on live tv.

[Guest Hogan Made Wrestling]

The match needed at least twice as much time as it got. The start was good with the armdrags and the Rock bailing to regroup, but that's the kind of stuff that needs a 15-20 minute match to work well. It seemed that after a point they were just told to "bring it home" so that the show could end on time. They would have done well to cut something out of the show (hint*MaeandMoolah*hint) and give the time to this match.

[Guest Brian]

Wasn't it non-title? Isn't that two non-title matches in a row Rock's gone over?

[Guest oldschoolwrestling]

They shouldn't have had a face vs face match to begin with. If they wanted to maximize the Flair pops, they would have used him in a tag match with The Rock over two heels. It would have gotten Flair and Rock over and could have been used to somehow make the heels look more heelish, even in defeat.

[Guest nl5xsk1]

Knowing that NC is Flair-country, and the Rock is the most popular wrestler on the roster, why book these two in a match against each other? It's a no win situation, as either Flair loses in front of "his" fans or the Rock loses some momentum (not that I think a Rock loss would necessarily equate to losing momentum, but that's a different story).

How about if Bischoff orders the two of them to fight against each other out of spite, but something happens during the show so the match becomes Rock and Flair together in a tag team match. That way they both can win, the fans go home happy, and you can still do the Jericho attack post match. You could even have Flair and Rock go over Storm and Test (so Test can do the J.O.B.), and then Jericho can attack Flair.

[Guest nl5xsk1]

Dammit, oldschoolwrestling, you beat me to the punch ... I shouldn't have bothered to re-read what I wrote, because I would have gotten my post in before yours.

[Guest LesnarLunatic]

Rock should have lost to Eddy last week due to Brock and then beat him this week.

 

DUH.

[Guest DJ Jeff]

If the Rock wasn't the WWE Undisputed Champion, it would have been better to have Flair beat the Rock. However, since the Rock is the WWE Undisputed Champion, which is something I don't like, the WWE had to have the Rock win to keep his momentum going strong for SummerSlam, where he'll drop the WWE Undisputed Title to Lesnar. The Rock losing matches, even one match right now, wouldn't be a really good thing. As much as I hate to say it, I hope the Rock continues to win his matches, and then lose the big match to Lesnar at SummerSlam.

[Guest Retro Rob]

I'm sort of with BPS on this one. The Rock will only be here for 5 more weeks. I think he never should have won the title in the first place. Eddy should have gone over last week by either cheating or Brock and lost tonight. Why else make the match non-title? Seeing how that didn't happen and the Rock fought Flair, Flair shouldn't have gone over the champion CLEAN no matter who the champion is because that would ruin Rock-Lesnar at SummerSlam. If Flair was wrestling like a heel and cheated to win, that would have been fine.