Nature Gov'

[Guest Mattdotcom]

See it here

 

So, will this affect his WWE career?

 

Can he win?

 

Will he even run?

[Guest thebigjig]

If Jesse Ventura can win... Ric Flair can win

 

well, depending on the competition. Plus, Ventura might have put a black eye on the entire "wrestler as gov" idea... hopefully it won't affect Flair.

 

But look at it this way, Flair is friends with former president George Bush, so I'm sure Bush will endorse him, and if that happens, it will probably be a lock

 

I'm all for it... just as long as the WWE doesn't make an angle out of it

[Guest bob_barron]

You're. Gonna. Vote. For. WOOOOOOOOO! Nature WOOOOOO! (Runs the ropes, drops the elbow). On. Election. 16 Time, Limosine Ridin', Jet flyin' kiss stealin'. wheelin' and dealin' son of a gun. WOOOOOO! On. Election. Day. WOOOOOOO!

[Guest bob_barron]

Does anyone think Eric Bischoff will be his opponent and humiliate him at every opportunity?

[Guest thebigjig]

I really hope that sometime before Flair retires, they write an angle where he finally gets revenge on Bisch for all of the shit he put him through in WCW.

[Guest bob_barron]

When/if they fire Bischoff-

 

Bischoff comes out all smug and assholey talks about all the power and how great he is.

 

(theme from 2001 hits)

 

Ric Flair comes out and just lays into Bischoff and then goes: Eric Bischoff-WOOOOO! You're fired!

 

Bischoff is aghast and kicks Flair in the head. Flair pops right up with a mean look, grabs Bischoff and BOOM! Low-blows him.

 

He then goes: This is for me! (low blow) This is for Austin. (low blow) This is for Jericho (low blow) Bulldog (low blow) Mick WOOO Foley (low blow)

 

He then goes- this for anyone and everyone you screwed you over you stupid son of a bitch.

 

(He then rears back and BOOM! Kicks him right in the balls)

 

Do it in Charlotte- just to make it perfect

[Guest D'Lo White]

Bob Backlund for President!!!

[Guest jester]

The electoral ballot will be tied between Flair and Ventura, so they'll have to settle who becomes govenor in a Hell in a Cell match.

 

That's how they should have settled Bush/Gore.

[Guest Ph34r Tha Leaf]

I think Rock will try to rend when he gets older. Hell, him running for president wouldn't suprise.

[Guest LexLugerRules]

Remember when Randy Savage and Hulk Hogan were suppose to run for president.

[Guest DJ Jeff]

Flair 4 President. B)

[Guest Ph34r Tha Leaf]

He then goes: This is for me! (low blow) This is for Austin. (low blow) This is for Jericho (low blow) Bulldog (low blow) Mick WOOO Foley (low blow)

.....

 

I'm not really trying to be anti-Flair but the truth is:

 

FLAIR WAS THE ONE WHO HELD AUSTIN DOWN!! FLAIR WAS THE ONE WHO SAID NO TO A PUSH FOR FOLEY!!! It wasn't just Bicshoff because he has held down his share of people too.

 

You don't get it. Austin kept coming to Flair with ideas but the Nature Boy kept saying, "No Steve. That's not for you." Or "It's not your time right now."

 

Anyone remember Austin's shoot in ECW? Anyone remember Foley's shoots? How about his book?

 

Maybe you don't know what you're talking about. That might come off as an insult but you probably don't know about what Flair did with his backstage power. He was one of the bookers at one point in WCW.

 

If WCW was in business today and Flair still had his backstage power, we'd all be in FFFlair (Fuh-Fuck-Flair) AND HHHaters.

 

I'm not going to take a shit on his wrestling career but how do you think he got 16 (was it?) World title runs? Sure he was good in the ring but he found that ring skills don't cut it. The "Dirtyest Player in the Game" isn't just from his love of Low blows.

 

Hell, if anything, HHH is taking notes of Flair and I don't mean his wrestling tapes.

 

...

 

And Jeff, I do. I was mark-ish at the time and was worried they weren't joking.

[Guest bob_barron]

During Flair's run Foley was over as tag champs with Sullivan and that was a great time in his career. I don't think he was ready to be world champ yet.

 

I always heard Flair liked Austin and wanted to put him over- I didn't know he didn't like Austin

[Guest DJ Jeff]

And Jeff, I do. I was mark-ish at the time and was worried they weren't joking.

You do what? All I said was Flair 4 President! Now I'm confused.

[Guest crandamaniac]

Being from NC, there are 2 things I have to say. Flair (and not Regal, bob) is God, but Flair as governor would not be a good idea. NC has a lot of problems budget wise, and we would really need somebody who is strong, and not a novelty act.

[Guest bob_barron]

I love Flair and wooooo and do Flair chops all the time.

 

I used to live in NC and it sucked ass. Had flair been gov- I prob would've liked it

 

But Regal is better.

[Guest Mad the Swine]

Ignore. Nothing to see here that isn't addressed in other places.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

Flair running under a party? Well, that's kind of odd, but probably because Ventura's biggest problem was having to play the stupid politics games. Running as an Independant you get chewed and spit on by both the Dems and the GOP.

 

I kinda smell publicity stunt. It's been done before, and if NC is having trouble it's not really a smart idea to vote in some guy with no political experience.

[Guest Mad the Swine]

There's not much evidence to suggest that Flair held Austin down. Flair's booking reign went from January 1994 to July 1995. By the middle of 1994, he had little control over the top of the card due to Hogan and his cronies invading.

 

In 1994, Austin was U.S. champion and one of the top heels in the company behind Vader. He was given the U.S. title. Rumors even circulated that he was Flair's heir apparent. Hogan's supremacy in the company became quite evident in September 1994 as Jim Duggan (a Hogan crony) got the belt when Austin did a minute job for him at Fall Brawl.

 

Mick Foley wasn't more than a blip on the screen during Flair's first booking reign (early 1989 - March 1990). Foley was only around for six months of Flair's second reign, with most of those months injured.

 

WCW had an influx of babyfaces; Foley wouldn't be in the top part of the card. Flair wanted him heel. Foley balked.

[Guest Mad the Swine]

Flair wouldn't be taken seriously, even in North Carolina.

 

And if the media did take him seriously, it wouldn't take them long to find some pretty wild (and true) stories about him. Then, you top that off with a media spin.

 

He wouldn't stand a chance.

[Guest thebigjig]

He then goes: This is for me! (low blow) This is for Austin. (low blow) This is for Jericho (low blow) Bulldog (low blow) Mick WOOO Foley (low blow)

.....

 

I'm not really trying to be anti-Flair but the truth is:

 

FLAIR WAS THE ONE WHO HELD AUSTIN DOWN!! FLAIR WAS THE ONE WHO SAID NO TO A PUSH FOR FOLEY!!! It wasn't just Bicshoff because he has held down his share of people too.

 

You don't get it. Austin kept coming to Flair with ideas but the Nature Boy kept saying, "No Steve. That's not for you." Or "It's not your time right now."

 

Anyone remember Austin's shoot in ECW? Anyone remember Foley's shoots? How about his book?

 

Maybe you don't know what you're talking about. That might come off as an insult but you probably don't know about what Flair did with his backstage power. He was one of the bookers at one point in WCW.

 

If WCW was in business today and Flair still had his backstage power, we'd all be in FFFlair (Fuh-Fuck-Flair) AND HHHaters.

 

I'm not going to take a shit on his wrestling career but how do you think he got 16 (was it?) World title runs? Sure he was good in the ring but he found that ring skills don't cut it. The "Dirtyest Player in the Game" isn't just from his love of Low blows.

 

Hell, if anything, HHH is taking notes of Flair and I don't mean his wrestling tapes.

 

...

 

And Jeff, I do. I was mark-ish at the time and was worried they weren't joking.

Go read Steve Austin's interviews at PWtorch.com. He has nothing but good things to say about both Ric Flair and Hulk Hogan.

 

It's a common knowledge that Ric Flair saw potential with Steve Austin and that he was going to put him over in the near future. That crumbled when Hogan came in, but hey, it's business.

 

As for the "shoot" interviews in ECW... got news for you, those were just part of the show. Don't believe everything you see on tv. When people were talking about how much Steve Austin hated Hulk Hogan and that's why he refused to work with him, I posted Steve's interview with the PWtorch after leaving WCW, and *gasp* Steve has nothing but GOOD things to say about Hogan. The only remotely negative thing he said was something like "I had my doubts that he could be a top draw, but other than that he was a pretty good guy."

 

As for Mick Foley... well, guess what, that's one man's opinion. Flair and Foley didn't click. Big deal. So what? I have all the respect in the world for Foley. I love the guy. I've read his books countless times. Blood and Sweatsocks, more than 5. But even I can detect that Foley was just slightly arrogant about his time in WCW. Yes, Flair did tell the board that Foley being World Champ was a bad idea, but could you blame him? Foley wasn't nearly over enough to be the top guy at the time. I would've said the same, and I'm sure the idea of Foley becoming a champ then would've been laughable at the time. I followed WCW at the time, and while I like Foley somewhat, I would've stopped watching if they gave him the belt.

 

 

By the way, I don't get into the backstage politics, the blaming of wrestlers etc etc... why? Because ALL of the top stars have played politics. When you become a top guy, it doesn't really matter how humble you are before, being the star changes people... maybe not everybody, but most of the time, that is the case. Steve Austin played politics too. Remember Jeff Jarrett? So did Shawn Michaels. So did Ric Flair. So did Lou Thesz. So did Bret Hart. So did... *gasp* HHH! It's common. If you're going to blast Flair for refusing to lay down for some people, then you've gotta look at Steve Austin. You've gotta look at Harley Race. You've gotta blame everyone else that has done the same thing.

 

Or you can do what I do... why bother?

[Guest thebigjig]

Flair wouldn't be taken seriously, even in North Carolina.

 

And if the media did take him seriously, it wouldn't take them long to find some pretty wild (and true) stories about him. Then, you top that off with a media spin.

 

He wouldn't stand a chance.

they said the same thing about Ventura... he made it

 

And about Flair's past? I doubt that will have ANY affect.

 

George Dubyah snorted coke in his college days. He's the president now. Besides, what he did in the past shouldn't figure into what he does in the president. We all have ghosts in our closets. Should that hinder our future goals? Of course not

 

If Jesse Ventura could do it, ANYONE can do it

[Guest Vyce]

Shit, I'd vote for him.

[Guest Mad the Swine]

Flair's got more than a few skeletons in the closet. No reporter has ever pried into Flair's background; they might find a few surprises.

 

I believe personally what happened in the past should mostly be left there. But Flair is the type of guy that sensationalizing reporters would have a field day with because it'd be harder for him to strike back.

 

And you also add in that Flair only has a high school diploma. He quit college pretty quickly (within a year and a half) and from all accounts, did poorly in school. Flair's probably a lot smarter than this indicates, but that might strike a bad chord with voters who have this "dumb wrestler" generalization.

 

Plus, he has no political background other than his ardent campaigning for Jesse Helms, Sue Myrick, George Bush (daddy Bush), etc.

 

There's just not many things going for him other than his charisma.

 

Ventura was a special case. Independents always have had a better record in Minnesota, the vote was split to begin with between Humphrey III and the other contender, and a good bit of Jesse's support came from voters who registered that day.

 

Flair is considering running as a Republican. But would the party really back him? McCrory and Vinroot are established politicians and are less likely to fall flat on their face.

 

The vote is not likely to be split in North Carolina as independent or libertarian parties either won't be involved or will be in the extreme of minorities - sorta like Eugene Debs in his repeated quests to run for president.

 

North Carolina has stricter rules for registering to vote. It doesn't seem like it, but it could hurt Flair in the polls. It can be generalized and argued that Flair's most likely voters are those who aren't registered.

 

Besides, the newspaper in Raleigh did a good article when Flair announced in 2000. They found the results to be quite mixed with a good numbers of folks saying they wouldn't vote for Flair.

[Guest B-X]

Well, I live in NC, and there is no way I'd vote Ric Flair into office. No way in hell.

[Guest crandamaniac]

Flair wouldn't be taken seriously, even in North Carolina.

 

And if the media did take him seriously, it wouldn't take them long to find some pretty wild (and true) stories about him. Then, you top that off with a media spin.

 

He wouldn't stand a chance.

they said the same thing about Ventura... he made it

 

And about Flair's past? I doubt that will have ANY affect.

 

George Dubyah snorted coke in his college days. He's the president now. Besides, what he did in the past shouldn't figure into what he does in the president. We all have ghosts in our closets. Should that hinder our future goals? Of course not

 

If Jesse Ventura could do it, ANYONE can do it

Jesse Ventura had experience in the politics, I believe he was a mayor in Minnesota. Ric Flair has no experience to my knowledge. He should probably run for mayor of Charlotte, or another one of NC's bigger cities before he ran for governor

[Guest Mad the Swine]

Jesse Ventura had experience in the politics, I believe he was a mayor in Minnesota. Ric Flair has no experience to my knowledge. He should probably run for mayor of Charlotte, or another one of NC's bigger cities before he ran for governor

Ventura was mayor of Brooklyn Park, Minn., in the early 1990s. He also hosted a radio show, so his views were well-known there, too.

 

Flair has no political experience. The only taste of government he's had is from campaigning for several Republican politicians.