Guest bcu1979 Posted August 10, 2002 Report Posted August 10, 2002 Some very interesting rating notes (among other things) in the latest Wrestling Observer. The whole "who ran over Shawn Michaels?" angle was a huge ratings flop. The overrun with Triple H/Michaels interview did a 3.85. The Jericho/RVD match right before that did a 3.82. The overrun usually has a huge increase over the previous quarter hour. The show actually peaked much earlier in the night with Trish/Victoria at a 4.13. The Storm/Christian v. Hardys tag match and the Island Boys beating up Lillian lost over 430,000 viewers. Last week's Triple H/Michaels confrontation was also a ratings disappointment. The Triple H interview/Michaels angle did a 3.99 - the same number as the Moolah/Mae Young segment, despite being hyped up the whole show. The Benoit/RVD match added 350,000 viewers for their IC title match for a 3.84 rating. The Rock/Flair match was a big winner doing a 4.42 overrun and adding over half a million viewers. The Hogan injury angle is his goodbye for now. He had been asking for time off because of back and knee injuries. There are talks about bringing him back everywhere from a few weeks to a few months from now. Meltzer also seems to imply that this Stephanie/Keibler/Bischoff angle could end up being used as a back-up plan to get rid of Bischoff. The idea is to put Bischoff and Keibler together. But they could always have Keibler screw him and then make Keiber in charge of RAW if they decide the Bischoff character has run his course. Chris Jericho has officially signed his new deal so there goes the "he might leave" excuse to explain his treatment by the creative team.
Guest bob_barron Posted August 10, 2002 Report Posted August 10, 2002 King questioning Molly's virginity=ratings
Guest HartFan86 Posted August 10, 2002 Report Posted August 10, 2002 Good to see people are tuning into Benoit/RVD. That's a sigh of relief.
Guest Insane Bump Machine Posted August 10, 2002 Report Posted August 10, 2002 Meltzer also seems to imply that this Stephanie/Keibler/Bischoff angle could end up being used as a back-up plan to get rid of Bischoff. The idea is to put Bischoff and Keibler together. But they could always have Keibler screw him and then make Keiber in charge of RAW if they decide the Bischoff character has run his course. Yeah, Stacy Keibler as RAW GM. That sounds like a great backup plan.
Guest Si82 Posted August 10, 2002 Report Posted August 10, 2002 Meltzer also seems to imply that this Stephanie/Keibler/Bischoff angle could end up being used as a back-up plan to get rid of Bischoff. The idea is to put Bischoff and Keibler together. But they could always have Keibler screw him and then make Keiber in charge of RAW if they decide the Bischoff character has run his course. Great, this all the WWE needs. Keibler as Raw GM. Do these writers have any brains? If this happens she will only made to look weak against Stephanie and probably the return of Vince McMahon being lusted over by both Stacy and Dawn Marie. Christ, the guy needs to get over his mid-life crisis in private. To use a quote from Bob Barren live out you fantasies via materbastion.
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Posted August 10, 2002 Report Posted August 10, 2002 Scott Kieth will have a fit. TWO FEMALE GM'S????????
Guest The Electrifyer Posted August 10, 2002 Report Posted August 10, 2002 Stacy as Raw GM? I don't think so. All that is, is a RUMOUR. As dumb as the WWE writers are, they aren't that dumb to put Stacy as the GM for Raw.
Guest Austin3164life Posted August 10, 2002 Report Posted August 10, 2002 Well, this just shows that the Triple H/HBK segments aren't "the biggest thing in the WWE BY GAWD!". They really need to trim down the time that ONE storyline gets, and distribute television time more equally. It's a nice thing that Benoit vs. RVD received a fairly good rating. I was losing hope that the marks don't like good wrestling.
Guest LesnarLunatic Posted August 10, 2002 Report Posted August 10, 2002 at least it will seem more normal if a star on RAW is going to the top while sleeping with GM Stacy than GM Bischoff
Guest AndrewTS Posted August 10, 2002 Report Posted August 10, 2002 But that crappy overrun interview did beat out the Jericho/RVD match. Which should have been better, though. Maybe people THOUGHT it would have been the main event.
Guest LaParkaMarka Posted August 10, 2002 Report Posted August 10, 2002 Meltzer also seems to imply that this Stephanie/Keibler/Bischoff angle could end up being used as a back-up plan to get rid of Bischoff. The idea is to put Bischoff and Keibler together. But they could always have Keibler screw him and then make Keiber in charge of RAW if they decide the Bischoff character has run his course. Great, this all the WWE needs. Keibler as Raw GM. Do these writers have any brains? If this happens she will only made to look weak against Stephanie and probably the return of Vince McMahon being lusted over by both Stacy and Dawn Marie. Christ, the guy needs to get over his mid-life crisis in private. To use a quote from Bob Barren live out you fantasies via materbastion. I agree with you 10^60 %. Why would they want to get rid of Bisch, who is easily one of the most entertaining guys on the roster now? His bits are always amuse me anyways. Well, his shilling of Sony was pretty sucky, but other than that his stuff has been gold. So of course let's replace him with Stacy. She's hot but she can't act worth a damn. That'll really be the catalyst for a ratings resurgence. We all know this is eventually going to end with Bischoff being totally buried, because Vince is a huge dick that holds grudges. I guess I'd like to pretend that it won't happen.
Guest Flyboy Posted August 10, 2002 Report Posted August 10, 2002 Meltzer also seems to imply that this Stephanie/Keibler/Bischoff angle could end up being used as a back-up plan to get rid of Bischoff. The idea is to put Bischoff and Keibler together. But they could always have Keibler screw him and then make Keiber in charge of RAW if they decide the Bischoff character has run his course. What the fuck?! KEEP BISCH ON MY TELEVISION!! Oh... and RVD/Jericho and RVD/Benoit both did good.... hmmmmm...
Guest the 1inch punch Posted August 10, 2002 Report Posted August 10, 2002 Bisch, who is easily one of the most entertaining guys on the roster now? Sorry, not while BookerDust and Chris Nowinski are around
Guest chirs3 Posted August 10, 2002 Report Posted August 10, 2002 Bischoff is such a great character right now. I think the most important thing is HE'S NOT A MCMAHON! And he's so sarcastic and smarmy and cocky, it's great. He should not leave for a long long time.
Guest Spaceman Spiff Posted August 10, 2002 Report Posted August 10, 2002 The whole "who ran over Shawn Michaels?" angle was a huge ratings flop. ::falls down in shock:: Well, not really. Hopefully Vince gets the hint. The show actually peaked much earlier in the night with Trish/Victoria at a 4.13 ::falls down in shock for real:: Meltzer also seems to imply that this Stephanie/Keibler/Bischoff angle could end up being used as a back-up plan to get rid of Bischoff. The idea is to put Bischoff and Keibler together. But they could always have Keibler screw him and then make Keiber in charge of RAW if they decide the Bischoff character has run his course Stacy as GM would be a colossal disaster. Sure, she's great eye candy, but as "the boss" would be a big mistake. As for Bischoff, you know that's how it is going to end. It's Vince & Bischoff. Vince isn't exactly the most forgiving guy. The minute he thinks Bischoff has run his course, he's going to run him out.
Guest bcu1979 Posted August 10, 2002 Report Posted August 10, 2002 Meltzer's comments on the Bischoff/Keibler angle were somewhat vague. He wasn't saying that they were going to replace Bischoff with Stacy, just that it is a possibility if they decide to drop the Bischoff character. Everyone admits Bischoff is doing a good job, but it's unclear how long this storyline will last. And Bischoff's main role is to draw ratings and get Stephanie over as a babyface. (That will take a miracle.) Meltzer commented that it would be a stupid decision because the main demographic (males 15-30) does not want to see the wrestlers play pawns to the female authority characters. The reaction to Stephanie's character certainly supports that theory. But I am sure everyone will be happy to know that Stephanie's position as Smackdown GM is extremely secure as long as the brand extention plays out.
Guest The Son of Sting Posted August 10, 2002 Report Posted August 10, 2002 Meltzer also seems to imply that this Stephanie/Keibler/Bischoff angle could end up being used as a back-up plan to get rid of Bischoff. The idea is to put Bischoff and Keibler together. But they could always have Keibler screw him and then make Keiber in charge of RAW if they decide the Bischoff character has run his course. Bischoff's contract is only short term (to me that says 3-6 months) which shows that they dont have faith in Eric for the long haul. Bischoff is performing far better than i thought he would and gets a bigger reaction than Steph. Keibler as RAW GM would be awful. Is there a back up plan if Steph fails? I thought not. Some how Steph will end up as supreme GM by the end of the year and Eric will be gone, thats my take on it.
Guest Downhome Posted August 10, 2002 Report Posted August 10, 2002 Ok, so those other segments, beat out the f'n OVERRUN? Is that the first time this has EVER happened? You can NOT disagree with the fact now that this HBK/HHH angle is nothing short of a failure with the fans. This isn't me saying it, the numbers speak for themselves. Here, allow me to go on... ...listen up everyone, this ONCE AGAIN proves that Moolah/Maye Young = ratings damnit! Now how patahtic is it that the "huge" HBK/HHH segment can't even top that, I mean really. The plus, is that Rocky/Flair prove once again that THEY are the players, they can bring in ratings. Now I'm not putting down HBK or HHH, far from it. I am simply saying, as I've said over and over since this HBK/HHH CRAP began, that is is nothing short of bad TV. It isn't really their faults, but rather, it is simply coming off as nothing more than a cheap "back up plan" after Nash got hurt, and the nWo was disbanded. It came out of nowhere, with no buildup, and the fans are NOT stupid enough to not realize this. HBK's return should have been treated with a lot more care than this, it really should have. Sadly, this is just another example of what WWE is becoming famous for, that being... ...hotshotting, pulling angles out of nowhere for a "quick fix", and just throwing stuff together out of apparent lack of creativity. Seriously, when will WWE realize that these business pratices will never get them anywhere?
Guest mach7 Posted August 10, 2002 Report Posted August 10, 2002 Bischoff is the freshest "non-wrestling talent" on RAW. They'd be stupid to get rid of him and give the show to Stacy "whats my line again" Keibler... idiots.
Guest Brian Posted August 11, 2002 Report Posted August 11, 2002 Stacy makes her way to the top...so Test can finally get his revenge on Steph.
Guest nWoScorpion Posted August 11, 2002 Report Posted August 11, 2002 No Wonder Hogan jobbed to Brock. I no watch Smackdown til he comes back. Not like im missing anything...........OH shit, Rey Jr.'s on SD. D-OHH!
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Posted August 11, 2002 Report Posted August 11, 2002 But... Wait... HHH is a draw... But he can't add more than a few viewers to the overrun? The segment that is always the highest rated? WOW. PUT THE TITLE ON THIS MAN NOW!!!!!
Guest chirs3 Posted August 11, 2002 Report Posted August 11, 2002 BPS, don't you see? They didn't draw many more viewers BECAUSE he isn't champ. If Triple H was champion, well hell, EVERYONE would tune into the overrun. Guess who beats Brock?
Guest Big McLargeHuge Posted August 11, 2002 Report Posted August 11, 2002 Jericho and RVD will get the get the blame for this. In all seriousness, the angle was overdramatized crap to begin with. I'm glad that long winded interview failed. Any RAW centered around HHH these days just plain sucks. Get it Vince, sucks.
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Posted August 11, 2002 Report Posted August 11, 2002 yeah... RVD and Jericho will get blamed for drawing a high rating that HHH couldn't really do anything to improve on...comsidering he was given the OVERRUN. IT's all their fault.
Guest Vern Gagne Posted August 11, 2002 Report Posted August 11, 2002 The whole "who ran over Shawn Michaels?" angle was a huge ratings flop. There most of been alot of people possesed by the devil during the HHH/HBK segment.
Guest The Son of Sting Posted August 11, 2002 Report Posted August 11, 2002 There is a major logic gap with the stacy/steph/eric storyline. Doesnt Steph care about her show enough to watch it because if she did she would have seen everything. Some GM she is.
Guest Showstoppa Icon Posted August 11, 2002 Report Posted August 11, 2002 There is a major logic gap with the stacy/steph/eric storyline. Doesnt Steph care about her show enough to watch it because if she did she would have seen everything. Some GM she is. Just another example of the "holes" in WWE storylines
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