Guest Brian Posted August 12, 2002 Report Posted August 12, 2002 With the latest confidential shows and the HHH heel turn, I've been thinking lately if McMahon is re-writing history in his own way. Is he minimalizing the affects of major players like Austin and the rock, for himself, HHH, and DX? The last few Confidentials have really been about DX invading WCW, and how pivotal of a role that was in the comeback of the WWE. Even Eric Bischoff, the one-time opponent, talked about how these guys were balsy and gutsy and had attitude. Than there was the television show where Bischoff said Hunter was key to a comeback, despite Hunter still being a mid-carder back in the day. Than the HHH heel turn, an attempt to recapture the prosperity of the original, 2000 heel turn. But that heel run, was inpart made succesful by having a strong opponent like the Rock, and to a lesser extent, going over Mick Foley in the initial stage. But it seems like vince has convinced himself (or someone has) that once HHH goes over Michaels, they can get that same kind of aura surrounding HHH's character. Like it was Triple H (and Steph) all along in 2000, that Rock was just playing second fiddle. Vince has the pwoer right now to tell history however he likes to, as evidenced by the Montreal edition of Confidential, so is he trying to?
Guest Anglesault Posted August 12, 2002 Report Posted August 12, 2002 Brian, are you trying to imply that stand up guys like HHH and Vince would do something so self centered?
Guest Nevermortal Posted August 12, 2002 Report Posted August 12, 2002 Brian, are you trying to imply that stand up guys like HHH and Vince would do something so self centered? Perish the thought!
Guest notJames Posted August 12, 2002 Report Posted August 12, 2002 Citing "history" when it comes to professional wrestling is a useless endeavor, because the people who control the industry will always distort and spin it to whatever they want the fans to believe. Not that the fans have been trained to respect, much less remember, the things that happened, oh, I don't know, 3 months ago. Hell, I don't think even the writers have a grasp of their own continuity (yeah, big surprise). Pro wrestling, and Vince and Co. in particular, will go on rewriting "history" to suit whatever their ultimate goals are, and we, the card-carrying wrestling obsessed, will be forced to relay the real story for as long as we can... ... except to the ones who really need it.
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Posted August 12, 2002 Report Posted August 12, 2002 Notice how during every era the main player, Saves the company, then alienates himself against Vince,(Hogan, Bret, Austin) and now ends up going unsung in McMahon's programming, while the guys who had less or no impact, (HHH, UT, D-X) since they are on Vinnie's good side, are rewarded with these rah-rah segments on Confidential.
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Posted August 12, 2002 Report Posted August 12, 2002 I'm glad someone said this. I wanted to throw my TV out the window when they implied that HHH and DX launched the Attitude Era and put WCW out of business.
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Posted August 13, 2002 Report Posted August 13, 2002 People in power shaping past events to serve themselves? How did you even think of such a manipulative manuver?!
Guest jester Posted August 13, 2002 Report Posted August 13, 2002 I'm glad someone said this. I wanted to throw my TV out the window when they implied that HHH and DX launched the Attitude Era and put WCW out of business. Don't worry. One day HHH/HBK will outlive their usefulness, and Confidential or whatever the venue of that day is will explain how those two really weren't that big a deal. Karma is patient, and it's got a really big brick with those guys' names on it.
Guest Mystery Eskimo Posted August 13, 2002 Report Posted August 13, 2002 Don't worry. One day HHH/HBK will outlive their usefulness, and Confidential or whatever the venue of that day is will explain how those two really weren't that big a deal. Karma is patient, and it's got a really big brick with those guys' names on it. Yeah. Unfortunatly at this time Test will be headlining WM against Brock Lesnar and the cycle will begin again.
Guest SlowChemical6 Posted August 13, 2002 Report Posted August 13, 2002 The original dX (HBK, Hunter, Chyna) gave the WWF product *more* attitude, but everybody knows that the attitude was *born* in 1996 thanks to Stone Cold. dX ushered in the era of T&A and risque behavior. Still...for all of their controversial antics, dX version 1.0 did not equal ratings. People were still too interested in the nWo vs. Sting and the WCW debut of Bret to flip over to RAW. Hell, some of the stuff that dX did was so boring that even I -- the ultimate WWE mark -- watched Nitro and flipped to RAW on commercials for about two months straight in late '97. dX version 2.0 was the one that "invaded" WCW, and they did so AFTER the Austin/McMahon feud had already turned the ratings war around in the WWF's favor.
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Posted August 13, 2002 Report Posted August 13, 2002 D-X was pretty revoulutionary for it's time. But, nowhere near as cool as... "IF YOU PUT THE LETTER "S" IN FRONT OF "HITMAN" YOU HAVE MY EXACT OPINION OF BRET HART."
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