Guest Masked Heel Posted September 9, 2002 Report Posted September 9, 2002 Now i'm not a big Big Show fan but just thinking about some past "big men" there are many over the years that have been over and dominate in their company while still having lousy work rate such as Andre or The Undertaker so i would like to know what others think If Paul Wright had a Jesus push starting tonight on Raw would he be capable of getting over and drawing money or has he already been so damaged that he will always be a waste of Vinces money
Guest The Ruthless Aggressor Posted September 9, 2002 Report Posted September 9, 2002 He's pretty much worhtless now, the fans can't buy him as a credible force since he's been jobbed out to everyone in the company at least twice. He's also one of the most boring wrestlers ever, and he's completely out of shape and has no motive to improve since he's getting a million a year whatever he does.
Guest Masked Heel Posted September 9, 2002 Report Posted September 9, 2002 i agree he's been damaged greatly but wouldn't marks believe he is a threat based just on his size and if he started beating everyone do you still believe no one would buy it
Guest BionicRedneck Posted September 9, 2002 Report Posted September 9, 2002 Big Show is worthless. He has been jobbed out too much to be a threat. Vince should tell the fat bastard to get in shape or go away. He has ignored the pleas from management to lose weight, and can't work. He is an embarassment and a discrace to wrestling. Someone who has his job, making his money should at least try. Fuck Paul Wight, he doesn't deserve any sort of push.
Guest The Ruthless Aggressor Posted September 9, 2002 Report Posted September 9, 2002 I don't think he'll ever recover. They already tried pushing him in the nWo and nobody bought that.
Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly Posted September 9, 2002 Report Posted September 9, 2002 Paul WIght is too far gone to have any significance in the WWF. Since late 1999, he hasn't really done anything noteworthy. You can't job someone out for three years and expect himn to have credibility.
Guest Masked Heel Posted September 9, 2002 Report Posted September 9, 2002 Point taken do you think he could have been effective after the first time he came back from OVW?
Guest saturnmark4life Posted September 9, 2002 Report Posted September 9, 2002 yes. And he could be again. I agree he'll never be a credible main eventer or anything but they could get him over i'm sure. Losing a shitload of weight is paramount, but after that they can push him as a face in tag matches and the like (where he was very over) or in a 911 type role. But i think pushing him as a face now would be much easier than a heel push.
Guest DJ Jeff Posted September 9, 2002 Report Posted September 9, 2002 The WWE can push almost any superstar if they want to. I'd like to see the Big Show get pushed as a face, but only to mid card level. I don't want to see him wearing the World Title or the WWE Title anytime.
Guest RicFlairGlory Posted September 9, 2002 Report Posted September 9, 2002 The WWE can push almost any superstar if they want to. I'd like to see the Big Show get pushed as a face, but only to mid card level. I don't want to see him wearing the World Title or the WWE Title anytime. Oh obviously, they can push any huge guy to the stars if they want, regardless of how little skill they may have, I mean... look at Brock Lesnar
Guest Masked Heel Posted September 9, 2002 Report Posted September 9, 2002 Brock has skill he was a national champion in college he wrestles great when the wwe lets him WRESTLE they haven't yet instead trying to make him a monster
Guest Ram Posted September 9, 2002 Report Posted September 9, 2002 Brock has skill he was a national champion in college he wrestles great when the wwe lets him WRESTLE they haven't yet instead trying to make him a monster So who says Big Show doesn't? Show might be the god of wrestling and the WWE isn't letting him work to his full ability. It doesn't change the fact that he sucks right now.
Guest Masked Heel Posted September 9, 2002 Report Posted September 9, 2002 Find me any proof that Paul Wright has wrestling skill and i'll take back everything i said and eat my hat and post a picture of it* *No picture will ever be taken or posted for i am just making bullshit claims owners of said evidence have the right to be as pissed off as humanly possible
Guest oldschoolwrestling Posted September 9, 2002 Report Posted September 9, 2002 Wrestling-wise, I don't know if he could get over. Character-wise, anything is possible. Who would have thought Goldust would be able to use a character that had faded a few years ago to get pops? Who thought Booker T would come back after being buried over and over again by the WWE? Who would have thought Lance Storm would ever finally get tv time after being the janitor on Heat? Or that Christian would ever get a tag title again after faiding out? I think he needs to disappear until they can think of a gimmick for him and when they have a really good one, bring him back. That very well could possibly be never, but you never know.
Guest Brian Posted September 9, 2002 Report Posted September 9, 2002 I don't think Show has proven to be anything in the ring, but it's always possible he could pick up some things and get faster and such.
Guest bob_barron Posted September 9, 2002 Report Posted September 9, 2002 During the InVasion Big Show was perfect as the hot tag. That should be his character- Stand on the apron the whole match, get the hot tag and kick some ass
Guest DGenr8n X Posted September 9, 2002 Report Posted September 9, 2002 No. He's big, fat, and slow.
Guest cynicalprofit Posted September 10, 2002 Report Posted September 10, 2002 Hve him cut a promo saying how hes been held back and told not to upshow ppl, and then do a worked shoot where hes beating guys when hes not suppoes to like hes not following the script, hes a legit 7+ he shouldnt be scared of anything and if they did him like that, and had him destroy ppl, over and over and over, you could give him the title, and get a guy over as the face who finally beat him. I mean have him beat guy after guy for 3 months and then give him a title shot. hhh, who will have the title, will be all, i dont care if hes following the rules, i can still kick his ass, and then have big show destroy him. Now you have super uber heel and keep him there for 3 more months by beating more guys, during that time, build a face, and there you go. Its gold, since they did it with goldberg, and therefore it rules. And somewhere, I have a pic or saw a pic, of him doing a dropkick...this was in japan, so maybe he was good there.
Guest papacita Posted September 10, 2002 Report Posted September 10, 2002 If he was in the shape he was in back in 96-97, he could get over. He's too damaged right now to look like a serious threat, so if I was Vince, I'd just take him off of TV until he gets back into shape. If he doesn't, fuck him.
Guest red_file Posted September 10, 2002 Report Posted September 10, 2002 And somewhere, I have a pic or saw a pic, of him doing a dropkick...this was in japan, so maybe he was good there. IIRC, he pulled out a dropkick in one of the WWIIIs. Maybe it was another event. Most interesting, to me, is that supposedly the Big Show is capable of doing a moonsault. I seem to recall an interview where he talked about how he could do it but since he's so large it would always be extremely dangerous to do (imagine how injured Bob Holly might've gotten from a misplaced moonsault from a five hundred pound man instead of a two thirty pound man). Still, if he could do it -- and I'll never be convinced until I see some visual evidence -- I'm certain that it would get him over. It would also destroy his knees, thus ensuring that whatever time at the top he had would be short. Perhaps for the best.
Guest cynicalprofit Posted September 10, 2002 Report Posted September 10, 2002 The moonsault would be way to dangerous for the WWF style, which is sad, because if someone took that, they would show highlights of it for atleast a century. Hell, I know Necro Butcher would be all *puff puff* I'll do it.
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted September 10, 2002 Report Posted September 10, 2002 Just have him miss it, he'd still be over as fuck (at least for a month or so). The Showsault...wow. Other than that, they should make him into lovable comic babyface big lug type. He was more over as that than anything else, hell, team him up with Rikishi and move 'em to the weekend shows to dance around like big fat goofballs for little kids. The whole "I'm 7', 500lbs, grrr." thing just doesn't work that well anymore. When you're a kid though, really big people seem impressive, at least that's how I was with Andre and all the roid monsters of the 80's. Looking back on it, those guys were total slugs in the ring, but I still thought they were cool as hell. Either that, or stick him under a mask for a match or two just to be stupid. As far as serious pushes or roles on TV, forget about it, Show's damaged goods.
Guest saturnmark4life Posted September 10, 2002 Report Posted September 10, 2002 i believe he did a moonsault in wcw yes, but of course it missed. Brock should do the SSP and miss. A 500 pound man doing a moonsault could never hit without killing the recipient. Of course he NEEDS to shed weight before he tries it again. Remember when he teased doing a plancha at last year's unforgiven? The place went INSANE and the match died after he left. get him doing that again.
Guest midnight_burn Posted September 10, 2002 Report Posted September 10, 2002 Perhpas the Big Show could be worth something again, but i doubt the WWE will put the effort into seriously pushing him. Show will probably just continue to do nothing much, stuck in a mid-card role, only really being considered a main eventer when the WWE does a half-assed attempt to make him look like a major threat every time the Royal Rumble comes around.
Guest humongous2002 Posted September 10, 2002 Report Posted September 10, 2002 I just read the new WWE magazine with Booker T in the cover, they had a nice article about a day in the life of the Big Slow, and all I saw was pics of him doing what he does best shitting, eating and sleeping. This untalented goof is lucky to have a job. Hopefully someone outthere puts those pics in this forum just to remind people why this "Giant" tool doesn't deserve to be push to the top.
Guest Spaceman Spiff Posted September 10, 2002 Report Posted September 10, 2002 i believe he did a moonsault in wcw yes, but of course it missed. Brock should do the SSP and miss. A 500 pound man doing a moonsault could never hit without killing the recipient. Of course he NEEDS to shed weight before he tries it again. Remember when he teased doing a plancha at last year's unforgiven? The place went INSANE and the match died after he left. get him doing that again. I don't believe he did the moonsault on any of the TV shows. I remember hearing he practiced it at the Power Plant, but to the best of my knowledge he never used it in an actual match.
Guest nikowwf Posted September 10, 2002 Report Posted September 10, 2002 I already take Big Show as a threat. Everytime he is on he threatens to make the show suck. I think he is one of the single biggest threats in the WWE today. Niko
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