Guest deadbeater Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 Do you think that there may be a moratorium on using pyrotechnics indoors after what happened in Minnesota and Rhode island this week, even though the circumstamces are different (indoor arena being much larger, and there being more exits)? Discuss.
Guest Kingpk Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 I don't think so, because of those circumstances you stated. They check the pyro before the shows and get permits and such (I'm guessing). One of the technicians at the Station said he was just as surprised as the crowd when the pyro went off since he didn't even know it was going to be used.
Guest SP-1 Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 I don't see how they can. The national government might have a hard time putting something like that into effect. As long as the company using them passes the specifications set forth, they shouldn't be halted from doing it, IMO. I remember a story where there were worries about some WrestleMania or something because the fire marshall kept giving them trouble over their pyro or something like that. Anybody know the specifics?
Guest Mad Dog Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 I would doubt it. What happened in Rhode Island was due to idiot managers that don't care about the safety of the people that come to their establishment. In arenas there's little chance of it happening and even if it did there's staff to put out something before it gets too out of hand.
Guest crandamaniac Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 What happened in Rhode Island was due to idiot managers that don't care about the safety of the people that come to their establishment. According to news reports, the band didn't have any permission to use pyro, and had tried to use pyro at other clubs. But I don't think they'll be a ban on all pyro, just more control over it.
Guest bravesfan Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 They've (WWE) cut down on major pyro, save Y2J, Booker, Kane, and the show openings. Shouldn't be a discussion about the incident here, but considering how isolated and "accidental" the incident really was, NO fans should be worried or spooked when attending WWE events in the next few weeks.
Guest Mad Dog Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 Actually it was mentioned in the current events thread that the club had had pyro at other shows. So I think that hurts their credibility.
Guest Anglesault Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 No. The people who just decided to shoot off pyro all willy nilly in RI without permission from the club and taking the proper precautions are what we in the field like to refer to as "stupid dumbshit bastards" There is no reason to "moron-proof" the whole world do to some people in int being stupid, irresponsible, or both.
Guest Youth N Asia Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 They play huge arenas...not rinky dink clubs that only hold a few hundred people and have a 12 foot ceiling. And they don't sneak their stuff in without permission, they have it done professionaly. This shouldn't even be an issue.
Guest Mad Dog Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 If the managers didn't give them permission then how did they set it up for the show. Don't you think one of them would've been overlooking things during the setup for the show?
Guest Vern Gagne Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 It won't and it shouldn't The WWE always has a technican on hand to make sure everything is safe.
Guest Jobber of the Week Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 Armageddon got a little out of control as Kane's pyro actually caused the entire set to catch on fire. I remember seeing Flair and Batista sitting and posing in the middle of the burning mountain of crap and kind of chuckled. After the match, the TV never showed you the set while you could hear fire extinguishers working away. Soon you saw half of the set (with a lot more black) and more sounds, then saw the other half. And a fire extinguisher was left at the entrance. Kinda funny, but also a sign that they have people who come in and deal with these things pretty fast. Although I think they should have given putting out the fires a higher priority, even if that means you had to see guys armed with fire extinguishers running around Batista. It's not Disneyland, you don't have to worry about "bad show"
Guest phoenixrising Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 No way they ban the WWE from using pyro. WWE technicians not only are well trained but they have to use the stuff about twice a week live, three if there's a PPV event, maybe more cause I'm not sure if they shoot off pyro at house shows. IF something did catch fire there are a lot of stadium ushers and security guards around to escort the crowd out of the arena. The arenas are also pretty big so there's less of a chance of the smoke getting so thick as to force people to ground. Also, I would believe that most arenas have an escape plan for scenarios like this.
Guest jester Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 According to the news reports, the band says they had permission to set up. The management says they didn't. Obviously, one or both is now trying to cover their asses for the lawsuits that are sure to follow. AS for WWE, they play major arenas which would have much more careful management. I'm sure there are exceptions, but I think most would want a full explanation of everything WWE does, and have their staff verify the setup.
Guest MarvinisaLunatic Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 Kane needs to go back zapping poor ringboys coated in gel and causing them to be on fire. oh wait. never mind
Guest Rob Edwards Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 WWE techicians know what they are doing and keep pyros well away from the crowd, generally over non- flammable metallic sets so I can't see there being a problem
Guest Anglesault Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 According to the news reports, the band says they had permission to set up. The management says they didn't. Obviously, one or both is now trying to cover their asses for the lawsuits that are sure to follow. I'm pretty sure I heard that the band pulled the same shit in Jersey (Don't hold me to the state) so i know who I believe.
Guest Brian Posted February 22, 2003 Report Posted February 22, 2003 The WWE gets away with a lot of small laws. Like the blading one indy groups can't get past.
Guest The Hollywood Fashion Plate Posted February 23, 2003 Report Posted February 23, 2003 The only PPV the WWE had pyro trouble with was WrestleMania VI, since sandbags sitting next to the pyro caught fire when they tested the pyro. They just moved the sandbags and everything was fine though.
Guest wwF1587 Posted February 23, 2003 Report Posted February 23, 2003 i think the wwe are alot smarter about pyros and stuff like that...what happend in rhode island was just miscomunication between the band and owners.. add a little bit of the loss of common sense and you have the trajedy..
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