Guest Dmann2000 Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 Being a film major I've been wondering lately, what if WWE for say just a few months over the summer hired out the services of a well known screenwriter from Hollywood to provide ideas for storylines and character directions. He would work with the regular group of writers and talent. Ideally wrestler's politics would not interfere. Also the screenwriter should be a fan of pro wrestling and have an understanding of current WWE talent. I think it would be interesting to see what take a William Goldman, Robert Towne, Steve Zallian, David Koepp, Andrew Kevin Walker, hell even Paul Schrader would have. Wrestling has always had elements of drama, humor, romance, intrigue, pathos, etc. Sure it could be a trainwreck, but it could also produce something interesting.
Guest El Satanico Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 As long as they work with guys that know how to book wrestling matches and aren't current wrestlers, then I'd be all for it.
Guest RavishingRickRudo Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 The problem is: Matches based around Storylines. The solution is: Storylines based around Matches. How would a screenwriter help?
Guest Dmann2000 Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 As long as they work with guys that know how to book wrestling matches and aren't current wrestlers, then I'd be all for it. That's what I figured, leave the actual match booking to the road agents and wrestlers. Of course who knows if the wrestlers have the chops to pull of some of the drama these guys might come up with (which is why it'd be good if there are good screenwriters out there who happen to be wrestling fans, they'd know to write towards wrestler's strengths and not expose their weaknesses as much).
Guest Dmann2000 Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 The problem is: Matches based around Storylines. The solution is: Storylines based around Matches. How would a screenwriter help? If the road agents come to the screenwriters and work with them and give them matches to fashion a storyline around, I think it'd work. At least we wouldn't have Brian Gerwitz's attempts at comedy and Stephanie's melodrama.
Guest Dmann2000 Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 I mean, Stephanie majored in business right? Aside from growing up in the business (which we know doesn't mean you know it better) did she have much experience with creative writing andstorytelling. Or is she just swiping what she sees on Y&R?
Guest crandamaniac Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 They did something like this a couple of months ago, they hired a hollywood consultant for continuity purposes. He started showing them glaring errors they made, and they fired him
Guest Dmann2000 Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 They did something like this a couple of months ago, they hired a hollywood consultant for continuity purposes. He started showing them glaring errors they made, and they fired him *Sigh*, they just don't work well with outsiders. Well it's Vince's company let him run it into the ground if he wants. Although many a screenwriter has allowed for continuity errors. WWE should consider having an in house script supervisor if they don't already.
Guest RavishingRickRudo Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 It would be Vince Russo all over again.
Guest Dmann2000 Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 It would be Vince Russo all over again. Seriously, you are not comparing a William Goldman or Robert Towne to Vince Russo. And I don't just mean in talent, but in professionalism.
Guest Mattdotcom Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 They could do worse than Russo and hire Academy Award winner Akiva Goldsmith, the man who gave us Batman & Robin.
Guest Dmann2000 Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 They could do worse than Russo and hire Academy Award winner Akiva Goldsmith, the man who gave us Batman & Robin. notice I didn't put him up there, because of that AND Lost in Space
Guest Brian Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 It's a different setting dealing with different types of professionals in a different environment appealing to a different crowd. Steph's been sitting in on booking meetings basically since she was fourteen, given some time to go to school.
Guest Dmann2000 Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 It's a different setting dealing with different types of professionals in a different environment appealing to a different crowd. Steph's been sitting in on booking meetings basically since she was fourteen, given some time to go to school. What kind of 14 year old girl sits in on Wrestling production meetings. No wonder she's with HHH, she obviously didn't learn how to properly look for a guy.
Guest El Satanico Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 It's WWe...so it's going to be matches around storylines regardless. If it must be like that, then at least hire guys who can write decent stuff.
Guest Brian Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 Maybe not fourteen, but around that time.
Guest RavishingRickRudo Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 Vince Russo gave us "Creative" storylines like Taker/Kane. Storylines where they would shoot LIGHTING. His idea of a perfect wrestling promotion would be training ACTORS how to wrestle in a ringless area... I can't see how a screenwriter would be any different.
Guest snuffbox Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 if the wwe would hire writers who could remember what they did a week ago, a month ago, a year ago...yeah, that would really help.
Guest RavishingRickRudo Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 It's not just the writers, it's VINCE. For all we know a writer has just come up with the most brilliant storyline of all time but since it doesn't fit Vinces view or direction it will get overlooked.
Guest MarvinisaLunatic Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 They did something like this a couple of months ago, they hired a hollywood consultant for continuity purposes. He started showing them glaring errors they made, and they fired him I dont know why this made me laugh..but it did.
Guest ShooterJay Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 They could do worse than Russo and hire Academy Award winner Akiva Goldsmith, the man who gave us Batman & Robin. notice I didn't put him up there, because of that AND Lost in Space Don't forget "Batman Forever."
Guest Mad Dog Posted March 31, 2003 Report Posted March 31, 2003 It wouldn't work if they didn't have a wrestling background or a lot of knowledge. I saw give the book to Ric Flair and Mick Foley and not get in the way of what they do.
Guest JDMattitudeV1 Posted April 1, 2003 Report Posted April 1, 2003 RRR is right, it’s not the writers that are the problem it's Vince. If anyone came up with any independent thought in booking meetings and disagreed with Vince they will be fired, simple as that.
Guest RavishingRickRudo Posted April 1, 2003 Report Posted April 1, 2003 They won't be fired. Vince isn't that near sighted... They will get a nice comfortable position as doorman.
LaParkaYourCar Posted April 1, 2003 Report Posted April 1, 2003 It wouldn't work if they didn't have a wrestling background or a lot of knowledge. I saw give the book to Ric Flair and Mick Foley and not get in the way of what they do. Ric Flair and Mick Foley would never get along well enough for that to work. Remember all the things Foley said about Flair in "Have a Nice Day"
Guest Trivia247 Posted April 1, 2003 Report Posted April 1, 2003 they need to stop trying to hire tv writers and just get more wrestler promoters or writers geez this is wrestling after all.
LaParkaYourCar Posted April 1, 2003 Report Posted April 1, 2003 Vince will always want the Sports Entertainment over the Wrestling. For him to hire Wrestling bookers over TV writers would be for him to admit his ideal is wrong. So.....the best we can do is hope he finds a good Sports Entertainment Writer. I'm starting to wonder if one even exists. They all seem to be outlandish like Russo and Gerwitz.
Guest RavishingRickRudo Posted April 1, 2003 Report Posted April 1, 2003 WWE: Our writers don't have to like wrestling or watch wrestling to work for us... Third-rate sitcoms are just fine.
Guest Dmann2000 Posted April 1, 2003 Report Posted April 1, 2003 WWE: Our writers don't have to like wrestling or watch wrestling to work for us... Third-rate sitcoms are just fine. Well if that's the case wouldn't you prefer it be someone who wrote Chinatown? or Butch Cassidy? or Schindler's List?
Guest RavishingRickRudo Posted April 1, 2003 Report Posted April 1, 2003 That's merely the better of two evils.
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