Triple h/hogan vs. jericho/angle on smackdown

[Guest]

Man, a lot of people are gonna need a change of undergarments if the heels somehow win...

 

...though that line of thinking will quickly give way to "so (guy who didn't take the fall) didn't take the fall, hmmmmm?"  

[Guest Vern Gagne]

It honestly wouldn't shock me if the SuperJobbers won the match. Of course it would be the cheapest and flukiest win ever and the HHH's would get clean pin falls the next week.

[Guest Anglesault]

The heels will win if Hunter's close, personal friends in Germany come to the ring and destroy them, earning a DQ

[Guest]

Man, this board is just depressing...doesn't anyone have any optimism whatsoever?

 

And maybe I'm a little disillusioned or something, but I was under the impression that...you know...Jericho and Angle were heels.  Heels cheat.  That's why they're heels.

 

(And no, I NEVER saw Triple H hit somebody with a sledgehammer to win a match before...)

[Guest Nevermortal]

I'm not gonna post anything.

 

Let's just say the word intense was used copiously, then I bitched about HHH.

 

Now that's intense.  (That should be HHH's new catchphrase, actually.)

[Guest the pinjockey]

Personally I see them going with the face miscommunication ending and the heels getting the win and then getting beat down.

[Guest]

I'm not gonna post anything.

 

Let's just say the word intense was used copiously, then I bitched about HHH.

 

Now that's intense.  (That should be HHH's new catchphrase, actually.)

Okay, the joke has been driven into the ground.  Triple H is intense.  I get it.

[Guest]

Man, this board is just depressing...doesn't anyone have any optimism whatsoever?

 

And maybe I'm a little disillusioned or something, but I was under the impression that...you know...Jericho and Angle were heels.  Heels cheat.  That's why they're heels.

 

(And no, I NEVER saw Triple H hit somebody with a sledgehammer to win a match before...)

Dont argue with Anglesault. So many people have tore his shitty arguments apart and he still keeps using them. Hes an idiot. Triple H does hold people down but Angle is not being held down at all. Even if he was, that doesnt mean it has to be hHh.

[Guest Just call me Dan]

I say they pull the old HARD sell and have Hogan and HHH just get it on in a intense battle for the ages!

 

Angle tries to break it up and riles up the crowd by hitting hogan or HHH, But here comes Edge! Here comes Edge! Here comes Edge!

Spear! Spear! Spear!

 

And Jericho just takes the clean pin before all of this happens and whines back to the lockerroom, never to be seen again until next Thursday.  That's what will happen if youask me.

[Guest]

Man, this board is just depressing...doesn't anyone have any optimism whatsoever?

 

And maybe I'm a little disillusioned or something, but I was under the impression that...you know...Jericho and Angle were heels.  Heels cheat.  That's why they're heels.

 

(And no, I NEVER saw Triple H hit somebody with a sledgehammer to win a match before...)

Dont argue with Anglesault. So many people have tore his shitty arguments apart and he still keeps using them. Hes an idiot. Triple H does hold people down but Angle is not being held down at all. Even if he was, that doesnt mean it has to be hHh.

I dunno, I just feel like some people take wrestling too darn seriously sometimes...maybe I'm foolishly optimistic, but I believe that if people hang in there, they'll eventually get the pushes that they deserve.  The WWF seems to love the guys that "pay their dues", regardless of other factors.

 

My favorite for a long time was Owen Hart and he paid a ton of dues, finally getting rewarded with a big push in 1997 as I-C Champ for most of the year.  And if fate hadn't interceded, perhaps he would have gotten a big push all over again in 1999.

[Guest Anglesault]

I dunno, I just feel like some people take wrestling too darn seriously sometimes...maybe I'm foolishly optimistic,

 

Yep.

 

My favorite for a long time was Owen Hart and he paid a ton of dues,

 

Oooh, GREAT EXAMPLE! They refused to do ANYTHING with Owen for years, and look what happened to him. Now we'll never know if Owen could cut it in the mains.

[Guest]

I say they pull the old HARD sell and have Hogan and HHH just get it on in a intense battle for the ages!

 

Angle tries to break it up and riles up the crowd by hitting hogan or HHH, But here comes Edge! Here comes Edge! Here comes Edge!

Spear! Spear! Spear!

 

And Jericho just takes the clean pin before all of this happens and whines back to the lockerroom, never to be seen again until next Thursday.  That's what will happen if youask me.

Hard to say...I think miscommunication on the face team is almost a given, but the question is whether it'll lead to a heel win or just a non-finish.

 

They seem to have the WWF Title situation mapped out up to Judgement Day(Hogan at Backlash, either Austin or Taker at JD), so given the pattern, either Jericho or Angle is likely to get the title shot at King Of The Ring.  And a pinfall in the tag match would be a big boost to either guy, no matter WHO gets pinned and even if it's not totally clean.

 

I mean, say what you will, but Jericho or Angle getting a pinfall on Hogan would be a big thing under any circumstances.  Triple H is probably winning at Backlash though, so he's more likely to take the fall.  A Jericho pin on Triple H would be a bigger deal than an Angle pin on Triple H, IMO(since Angle's pinned Triple H twice in the past few months, whereas Jericho's only pinfall on HHH was the title win two years ago that got reversed).

 

Hopefully Edge stays out of it, at least until after the match.

[Guest Anglesault]

Triple H does hold people down but Angle is not being held down at all.

::cups hand around mouth::

 

Kane! Edge! MARK HENRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Guest]

Oooh, GREAT EXAMPLE! They refused to do ANYTHING with Owen for years, and look what happened to him. Now we'll never know if Owen could cut it in the mains.

Exactly.  WE'LL NEVER KNOW.  For all we know he would have eventually been WWF Champion, and for all we know he would have been losing to Big Boss Man on Jakked.

[Guest Anglesault]

Hopefully Edge stays out of it, at least until after the match.

HA! The People NEED their Spear quotient! Maybe Edge will break his leg.

[Guest Anglesault]

Oooh, GREAT EXAMPLE! They refused to do ANYTHING with Owen for years, and look what happened to him. Now we'll never know if Owen could cut it in the mains.

Exactly.  WE'LL NEVER KNOW.  For all we know he would have eventually been WWF Champion, and for all we know he would have been losing to Big Boss Man on Jakked.

So you agree with the horrible treatment Owen recieved up to his death. Whatever.

[Guest]

::cups hand around mouth::

 

Kane! Edge! MARK HENRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whether the 'net crowd chooses to think so or not, people consider Kane an upper-level guy.

 

As far as Edge goes, he's gonna need a lot more help if people are gonna consider him an upper-level guy...he's gotten some big wins here and there but no one chooses to remember them.

 

And I don't know what to tell you if you're taking a website error so seriously...

[Guest]

So you agree with the horrible treatment Owen recieved up to his death. Whatever.

I think that if people pay their dues, they'll eventually get rewarded.  Do you know if Owen would have gotten a big push down the road?  No, you don't.

[Guest]

HA! The People NEED their Spear quotient! Maybe Edge will break his leg.

I am in awe of your maturity level.  Wishing injury on someone?  That's kinda cold, isn't it?

[Guest Anglesault]

I think that if people pay their dues, they'll eventually get rewarded.  

 

Or, they just fall to their deaths wearing Superhero costumes.

 

 

 

As far as Edge goes, he's gonna need a lot more help if people are gonna consider him an upper-level guy...he's gotten some big wins here and there but no one chooses to remember them.

 

Why does it have to be Angle? And Maybe they should take it as a hint that no one remembers the wins.

 

 

 

I am in awe of your maturity level.  Wishing injury on someone?  That's kinda cold, isn't it?

 

So is systematically destroying someone's credability...

[Guest]

<< << I think that if people pay their dues, they'll eventually get rewarded. >>

 

Or, they just fall to their deaths wearing Superhero costumes. >>

 

Gee, you're right.  I'm sure the WWF WANTED Owen to fall to his death that night.  All part of Vince's all-encompassing plan to screw with Bret!

 

<< << As far as Edge goes, he's gonna need a lot more help if people are gonna consider him an upper-level guy...he's gotten some big wins here and there but no one chooses to remember them. >>

 

Why does it have to be Angle? And Maybe they should take it as a hint that no one remembers the wins. >>

 

The guy gets cheers, he's talented in the ring, he cuts a good promo...why NOT push him?  (I realize your whole gimmick is ignoring any non-Angle crowd reactions/in-ring talent/promo ability, but oh well...)

 

It doesn't "have" to be Angle, it just happens to BE Angle.  It's not the end of the world when one of your favorite guys loses a match.  Pssst, it's all SCRIPTED.

 

<< << I am in awe of your maturity level.  Wishing injury on someone?  That's kinda cold, isn't it? >>

 

So is systematically destroying someone's credability... >>

 

Their credibility, too.

 

Seriously, though, I don't know what kind of trauma you've been through in your life to invest so much emotion in one wrestler, but it's really unhealthy...

[Guest The Man in Blak]

Oooh, GREAT EXAMPLE! They refused to do ANYTHING with Owen for years, and look what happened to him. Now we'll never know if Owen could cut it in the mains.

Exactly.  WE'LL NEVER KNOW.  For all we know he would have eventually been WWF Champion, and for all we know he would have been losing to Big Boss Man on Jakked.

So you agree with the horrible treatment Owen recieved up to his death. Whatever.

You know, I read somewhere that the WWF is seriously considering having Angle redux the Patriot gimmick, only have him come down from the rafters for each match.

[Guest]

You know, I read somewhere that the WWF is seriously considering having Angle redux the Patriot gimmick, only have him come down from the rafters for each match.

You know, I'm not even gonna touch that one except to say that, given just what I've seen in this thread, Anglesault will probably take it 100% seriously.

 

Hey, I heard through the grapevine that they're bringing back Essa Rios to feud with Angle because Angle stole Essa's moonsault!  

 

(Sorry, sorry...I'll be good.)

[Guest Flyboy]

I am in awe of your maturity level.  Wishing injury on someone?  That's kinda cold, isn't it?

Well, I did wish Jericho to break HHH's quad again when he was attacking him with the sledgehammer... and sometimes I wish a bus to run over my ex-girlfriend.

 

 

Heh... but that's another subject.  

[Guest Anglesault]

Or, they just fall to their deaths wearing Superhero costumes. >>

 

Gee, you're right.  I'm sure the WWF WANTED Owen to fall to his death that night.  All part of Vince's all-encompassing plan to screw with Bret!

 

The point is, you don't know what tomorrow will bring. if you keep putting something off for no real reason, the person in question may NEVER get their shot.

[Guest]

The point is, you don't know what tomorrow will bring. if you keep putting something off for no real reason, the person in question may NEVER get their shot.

Hmm...maybe they should just stop doing long-term angles just in case something happens in the meantime to disrupt them.  Would that work?

[Guest]

HHH buried Owen.

[Guest The Man in Blak]

Or, they just fall to their deaths wearing Superhero costumes. >>

 

Gee, you're right.  I'm sure the WWF WANTED Owen to fall to his death that night.  All part of Vince's all-encompassing plan to screw with Bret!

 

The point is, you don't know what tomorrow will bring. if you keep putting something off for no real reason, the person in question may NEVER get their shot.

Hence, under said logic, we never know when Mark Henry's going to fall over and die next, so PUSH PUSH PUSH!

[Guest One Bad Apple]

As far as Edge goes, he's gonna need a lot more help if people are gonna consider him an upper-level guy...he's gotten some big wins here and there but no one chooses to remember them.

Why does it have to be Angle? And Maybe they should take it as a hint that no one remembers the wins.

So ... if the fans cheer the guy ... but don't remember his big wins (and that may or may not in this case) ... he should stop being pushed?

 

If the crowd doesn't recall any of a wrestler's big victories, I'd say the blame should rest almost completely on the shoulders of the announcing and creative teams.

 

I am in awe of your maturity level.  Wishing injury on someone?  That's kinda cold, isn't it?

So is systematically destroying someone's credability...

It's completely reasonable to wish injury upon Edge because he goes out there and does his what he's told!  Yup, uh-huh!

 

The point is, you don't know what tomorrow will bring. if you keep putting something off for no real reason, the person in question may NEVER get their shot.

Two-time WWF Champion Kurt Angle's never had his shot?  If that's true, then I'm sure there are oodles of guys on the roster who'd like to "never get their shot" as long as they end up like that.

 

Actual guys who haven't ever been given a shot are people like Tommy Dreamer and Funaki and Justin Credible.  And ya know what?  Since we never know what the next day holds, I think the WWF should start pushing these three to the top of the card.  I mean, Dreamer could die of some strange brain-bacteria before King of the Ring, so something's gotta be done right this minute!

 

Probable Anglesault Response:  

"I'm sure Kurt will be jobbing to them soon enough."

 

 

Seriously, though, I don't know what kind of trauma you've been through in your life to invest so much emotion in one wrestler, but it's really unhealthy...

Heh.

[Guest Anglesault]

Actual guys who haven't ever been given a shot are people like Tommy Dreamer and Funaki and Justin Credible.  

 

Dreamer is near crippled, Funaki is a little foreigner (Never get a break) and Credible really isn't that good.

 

Are we overlooking that it's MARK HENRY they are pushing?