Guest Posted April 23, 2002 Report Posted April 23, 2002 Edge/Angle ****1/4 stars? RVD/Eddy **** stars? OK....
Guest muswp1 Posted April 23, 2002 Report Posted April 23, 2002 RVD/Eddie only had three stars, not four.
Guest chirs3 Posted April 23, 2002 Report Posted April 23, 2002 See my seat? 90% of it is unused because I’m ON THE EDGE OF IT, baby. I love Scott Keith.
Guest Ash Ketchum Posted April 23, 2002 Report Posted April 23, 2002 As do I, Mr. Raynor... *runs in and hits the K-Cutter on random dumb 11-year-old poster, pins for the one-two-three, celebrates, runs off* Yeah. BTW, Backlash was OK. Not bad, but not excellent either.
Guest Posted April 23, 2002 Report Posted April 23, 2002 As do I, Mr. Raynor... *runs in and hits the K-Cutter on random dumb 11-year-old poster, pins for the one-two-three, celebrates, runs off* Yeah. BTW, Backlash was OK. Not bad, but not excellent either. We have our very own Maven. (Smiles and wipes away tear of joy). Yeah, as for Backlash itself, I completely marked out when Tajiri used the Mist. I think I'm going to have to change my username...
Guest Posted April 23, 2002 Report Posted April 23, 2002 Lame. this should be in another folder though. I am not tryinfg to be a dick, jsut sayiong
Guest HartFan86 Posted April 23, 2002 Report Posted April 23, 2002 Lame. this should be in another folder though. I am not tryinfg to be a dick, jsut sayiong What other folder? If you can think of a better one, then let me know cause I certainly can't.
Guest Posted April 23, 2002 Report Posted April 23, 2002 I fully agree with Scott's review, Backlash looked exactly like a WCW PPV, some good undercard matches with a god-awful main event. Expect to see alot of WCW type PPV's, as Hogan will be dragging everything * and below. I cannot believe that Angle, their number heel in the promotion is basically being buried CONSTANTLY by HHH.
Guest Posted April 23, 2002 Report Posted April 23, 2002 Gerneal wrestling. By the way look at this that Scott Keith wrote: "I think the complaints from the whiners centered around the lack of offense from RVD, but screw that – Eddy DISMANTLED Rob, neutralizing all his offense and then beating him with his own move." Who is he to complain about whiners. His hero Benoit wasn't squashed so I guess it is ok then.
Guest RickyChosyu Posted April 23, 2002 Report Posted April 23, 2002 "I think the complaints from the whiners centered around the lack of offense from RVD, but screw that – Eddy DISMANTLED Rob, neutralizing all his offense and then beating him with his own move." Who is he to complain about whiners. His hero Benoit wasn't squashed so I guess it is ok then. I think what he was trying to say was that RVD got plenty of offense, it's just that Eddy was able to find ways around it and ended up beating him, so it's a bit much to call it a squash.
Guest Posted April 23, 2002 Report Posted April 23, 2002 But that made Eddy look better and thus it was a squash.
Guest Brian Posted April 23, 2002 Report Posted April 23, 2002 It wasn't a squash. RVD blew out his offense for no fucking reason (and I'm not downing anyone), than RVD had to go out an work his portion for seven minutes with decent psychology, but there was no real pace to the match. I still don't see what people liked about Edge/Angle other than the strong finish, which seems to be echoed for what was a weak Angle match, decent match to boot.
Guest Posted April 23, 2002 Report Posted April 23, 2002 yeah that edge/angle match was boring till the finish. Let me say one thing, you guys are real ass's. You guys revere scott keith, yet always trying to nit pick the guy. I think you should just let the guy write. WHo the fuck cares if you think RVD/Eddty vs *1/2 lower on your rating. I don't. No one cares what you have to say. --Rob
Guest RickyChosyu Posted April 23, 2002 Report Posted April 23, 2002 It wasn't a squash. RVD blew out his offense for no fucking reason (and I'm not downing anyone), than RVD had to go out an work his portion for seven minutes with decent psychology, but there was no real pace to the match. I still don't see what people liked about Edge/Angle other than the strong finish, which seems to be echoed for what was a weak Angle match, decent match to boot. No, it wasn't, and RVD did blow out his offense, but that seemed to be part of the story. Eddy was persisten and used strategy to keep up his offensive against RVD, and then cheated at the end to win. As for Angle/Edge, I thought it was a strong match all the way through. Edge sold like a champ, especially at the end and played the rookie upstart to a T. The suplex sequences in that match were especially great, and Edge's release German, in particular, was one of the sickest I've ever seen. They shouldn't over-do the head-dropping, but that played out perfectly with the match, so it was fine. Like you said, the last five minutes were red-hot and get mega heat. Great match.
Guest Human Fly Posted April 23, 2002 Report Posted April 23, 2002 I don't know, it seemed kind of like a squash to me. RVD hit Eddie with the majority of his offense. Eddie came back and controlled the rest of the match, RVD's big comeback lasted all of a move or two and when Eddie went up top to hit the frog splash he got a ton of gloating in. Also, giving RVD a neckbreaker on a belt didn't seem like any huge deal. Laying him out with the belt and then nailing the splash would've been a lot better.
Guest RickyB Posted April 23, 2002 Report Posted April 23, 2002 I agree with most of it, but HHH-Hogan was better than Austin-Undertaker. HHH-Hogan *1/4 Austin-Undertaker *
Guest Human Fly Posted April 23, 2002 Report Posted April 23, 2002 Generous ratings for those two matches
Guest Posted April 23, 2002 Report Posted April 23, 2002 The ME was just horrible. Hogan can't take do a basic bump. And don't start saying he was selling the leg. He's so old and decrepid he probably hurt it legit and HHH was smart enough to make it the focus of his attack so fans wouldn't start wondering why Hogan was limping.
Guest Captian Linger Posted April 24, 2002 Report Posted April 24, 2002 As for the RVD 'needing to hit all his spots early b/c it was a squash'. This is usually the opinion of people that believe that wrestling is 100% scripted, move for move...Hey, some guys like Test and Albert might need their matches maped out for them so they know what to do, but Eddy and RVD definitly do not... If anyone would need a blue print for how to carry a spotty wrestler to a great match, one would need look no further than Eddy vs Rey Jr from 'Havok '97. Eddy *dominated* most of the match to show that Rey was the underdog, while still being careful to allow Rey up to hit highspots at all the right moments to keep him in the match. Eddy could have done the exact same thing with RVD, I don't know whose fault it was for the match sucking. I saw RVD do a lot of stupid things such as using up all his best spots too early in the match, but Eddy seemed rather unispired to take the match to a decent level. Mabye it was booked as a squash, that would be ridiculous considering how over RVD is, but even squashes can be competetive and exciting. This was not.
Guest Posted April 24, 2002 Report Posted April 24, 2002 Sooo Unless RVD is outwrestling every person in the ring something is screwed up, and he got Squashed..he was a Jobber... right??? And Eddy vs RVD was the best match of the night but hell since RVD didn't appear good lets just throw that match out... Ohhhh POOOOR RVD
Guest Posted April 26, 2002 Report Posted April 26, 2002 It wasn't a squash. RVD blew out his offense for no fucking reason (and I'm not downing anyone), than RVD had to go out an work his portion for seven minutes with decent psychology, but there was no real pace to the match. What do you mena by blowing out his offense? I agree with most of it, but HHH-Hogan was better than Austin-Undertaker. HHH-Hogan *1/4 Austin-Undertaker * Damn Austin/UT was that bad? Was Austin off that night or was dogging it on purpose it looked like?
Guest cabbageboy Posted April 26, 2002 Report Posted April 26, 2002 I kept trying to think of what that RVD/Eddie match reminded me of. I figured it out: the Eddy/Malenko match at Starrcade 97. It was the best match on that awful show but it was sort of a downer in that Eddy just whooped Malenko and pinned him. It wasn't the highspot filled insanity people thought it might be, thus it got some bad reviews. When I watched it I didn't see anything wrong with it. From a heat standpoint Edge/Angle was better than RVD/Eddie. But if you take a look at the matches Edge/Angle has a lot of down time and resting (as do most Edge matches). RVD/Eddie had very little resting in it and was furious for the first 5 minutes or so and then settled into Eddie using cool submission stuff. And the psychotic powerbomb off the top spot left my jaw hanging open. The main problem I found with the match is that it just wasn't given enough time. It seemed like the first HALF of a match rather than a whole match. There were still a dozen spots RVD didn't work in and also a desperately needed series of rapid fire pinfall attempts that never happened. You can blame that on Austin/UT going 30m. I think that maybe they outta do a 30m Iron Man match sorta like Rude/Steamboat.
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