Guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Posted May 7, 2002 "The main reason for last night's RAW being such a bad show was due to the company just recently returning from shows in the UK. This left the writing team with little time to put together RAW, and they were still working on parts of the show late yesterday afternoon. The general consensus backstage was that the show was a disaster." Oh boo hoo, the "creative" geniuses didn't have time to work on the show? Give me a break. I remember when the WWF used to be all about having their shit sorted out months in advance. Now they're down to Bischoff booking. On the fly. Steph: Oh geez. It's 4pm on Monday! Maybe we should start writing the show for tonight?! Gerwitz: I shouldn't have drank so much beer. Steph: That was non-alcoholic beer. Gerwitz: ... Triple H: Ah, relax. If it tanks. We'll blame it on Jericho. Even though he's not on the show. But, I'm not on the show, so we probably shouldn't make it as INTENSE~! as Smackdown is going to be. Well, only because I'm there. Heyman: GORE! GORE!! GORE!!! Steph: What's with Paul? Gerwitz: Oh, I sold him some speed so he could lose all that weight. It's working too.. Steph: *thinks* Hmm, can I get some of that?
Guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Posted May 7, 2002 It is really scary that they don't even bother with a long term plan...
Guest DrEvil Posted May 7, 2002 Report Posted May 7, 2002 Yeah, what dumbasses. Not only do they skip advance planning, but it doesn't occur to them that maybe, just maybe, a flight from the UK is going to take an hour or two, so it might be an idea to at least come up with something before they land.
Guest oldschoolwrestling Posted May 7, 2002 Report Posted May 7, 2002 Maybe this is the "flight incident" they were talking about. Steph realizing she had a job to do instead of accompanying HHH to Europe.
Guest converge241 Posted May 7, 2002 Report Posted May 7, 2002 when i saw the headline i thought the reason was going to be "jetlag".. but this made me groan almos as much..they cant write on a plane? they cant write in the UK arena? I mean I assume they werent writing the show as it went, so you think they could at least brainstorm. Its not like they worry about paying attention to all details or continuity so wtf?
Guest Brian Posted May 7, 2002 Report Posted May 7, 2002 They should be able to do some work on the plane. They probably want to see how everyone performs and is accepted , and how they feel, before they write the full show.
Guest Tony149 Posted May 7, 2002 Report Posted May 7, 2002 That's a B.S. excuse. When Vince Russo was Head Writer I don't think he ever took a trip overseas. He stayed in the U.S. to write Raw & Heat. Why did Steph go? Just to be with her bofriend? That's why the head writer should never date a wrestler. Especially a main eventer. Pick one or the other.
Guest oldschoolwrestling Posted May 7, 2002 Report Posted May 7, 2002 Do you really think Steph has to answer to anyone? I'm thinking she is not taking any heat over the low ratings and poor storyline. Vince is blaming the NWO, Hogan, Jericho, Rock making movies, anyone but Steph.
Guest converge241 Posted May 7, 2002 Report Posted May 7, 2002 Vince is blaming the NWO, Hogan, Jericho, Rock making movies, anyone but Steph. this sentence should read:Vince is blaming , , Jericho, , .
Guest Brian Posted May 7, 2002 Report Posted May 7, 2002 You act like that's a new thing. Vince's inner circle (of bookers) never takes any heat, no matter what they do. It's the way it is. Until Vince pulls his head out of his ass and starts figuring out who's kissing it, things won't change.
Guest oldschoolwrestling Posted May 7, 2002 Report Posted May 7, 2002 Vince is blaming the NWO, Hogan, Jericho, Rock making movies, anyone but Steph. this sentence should read:Vince is blaming , , Jericho, , . You sure that shouldn't read "Kurt Angle"? Jericho at least jobbed in the main event against Hogan. Angle is going to be losing his hair to freaking Edge!
Guest Posted May 7, 2002 Report Posted May 7, 2002 I thought the show was fairly entertaining, but the reasoning above is pathetic. This booking on the fly crap (except under unforseen circumstances) really reflects badly on the writers, making them look disorganized and amateurish. I read somewhere that when Russo left a few years back, he left about six months worth of storylines behind him.
Guest bcu1979 Posted May 7, 2002 Report Posted May 7, 2002 Don't you just hate it when those pesky European tours planned 6 months in advance pop up out of nowhere on you? I don't see how the European tour should have affected writing RAW at all. The only two things they even used from the PPV were Spike's leg injury and the Lesnar/Stasiak match. Two things no one even cared about to begin with. But since all this work is obviously too much for the writing staff, why don't they just add some new writers and split the creative team in half? If they only have to write one show a week, then coming up with ideas shouldn't be as difficult. It's been said a million times before, but Vince apparently plugs his fingers in his ears everytime someone suggests that Stephanie and her band of bozos are the biggest problem in the WWF right now.
Guest converge241 Posted May 7, 2002 Report Posted May 7, 2002 Don't you just hate it when those pesky European tours planned 6 months in advance pop up out of nowhere on you? lol. cmon now. how is a little company like WWF (i mean WWE) going to keep track of things like that?
Guest hunger4unger Posted May 8, 2002 Report Posted May 8, 2002 What a load of crap. The European tour had no angles to be written it was straight forward matches just like house shows are. Raw sucked last night because the writing team can't cut it.
Guest RickyChosyu Posted May 8, 2002 Report Posted May 8, 2002 There's no excuse for a performance that horrible. It's great when even the writers are afraid to take the blame of a crappy show. Here's to it failing and all of them being layed off. I can dream.
Guest Dangerous A Posted May 8, 2002 Report Posted May 8, 2002 Vince has no one to blame but himself. He is the one who allows bad tv to be produced and shown to us. He is the be all, end all of what happens. It's not like he isn't watching the shows or something. He is not an abscentee owner like Ted Turner. I just think Vince goes for quick fixes and putting band aids(nwo, late Flair signing, letting Hogan have a run) on problems instead of going for the root cause and then coming up with corrective actions for those problems. I wish more people would put more blame towards Vince because he is the one guy who can veto anything and everything the writing team or booking team comes up with. For those of you who think he is not there or not watching or doesn't have creative power you are living a lie. Blame Vincent K McMahon.
Guest Posted May 8, 2002 Report Posted May 8, 2002 how about blame Steph she's the writes all the stories but Vince is to blame too not only for trying quick fixes instead of building up guys to take the older guys places but for not reconizing Steph needs to go and for being on tv so much beins an old pervert
Guest Posted May 8, 2002 Report Posted May 8, 2002 Who is on the WWF writing team? I know Stephanie obviously, but who else?
Guest Brian Posted May 8, 2002 Report Posted May 8, 2002 Lots of wrestlers sit in, namely Undertaker, Austin, and HHH; as well as those who have something at stake (Angle and Jericho por ejemplo). Basically, Steph is head. Gerwitz is there. Heyman, Hayes, Patterson, the agents (Ace, Finlay, Malenko are the main guys). There's more, but those are the ones off the top of my head.
Guest Posted May 8, 2002 Report Posted May 8, 2002 Lots of wrestlers sit in, namely Undertaker, Austin, and HHH; as well as those who have something at stake (Angle and Jericho por ejemplo). Basically, Steph is head. Gerwitz is there. Heyman, Hayes, Patterson, the agents (Ace, Finlay, Malenko are the main guys). There's more, but those are the ones off the top of my head. I thought that wrestlers weren't allowed in on production meetings anymore? I believe Bruce Pritchard is involved in the 'process' as well.
Guest muzanisa Posted May 8, 2002 Report Posted May 8, 2002 How is that an excuse? It's something they do at least twice a year. They are constantly travelling not just in Europe but up and down North America, the far east and Australaisia. What next the dog ate my Scripts?
Guest Posted May 8, 2002 Report Posted May 8, 2002 I thought the show was fairly entertaining, but the reasoning above is pathetic. This booking on the fly crap (except under unforseen circumstances) really reflects badly on the writers, making them look disorganized and amateurish. I read somewhere that when Russo left a few years back, he left about six months worth of storylines behind him. I read in Foley's second book that when Russo left he left one more week's TV behind. And appaerntly it was GAWD-Aful and featured Mankind asking the Rock to marry him. Well, the Wedding would ahve been better t han HHH-Steph.
Guest Posted May 8, 2002 Report Posted May 8, 2002 how about blame Steph she's the writes all the stories but Vince is to blame too not only for trying quick fixes instead of building up guys to take the older guys places but for not reconizing Steph needs to go and for being on tv so much beins an old pervert Why is it that when the WWF is doing great "Vince is a Genius" and when the WWF is SUCKING than "The writing team is jetlagged"
Guest Posted May 10, 2002 Report Posted May 10, 2002 "The main reason for last night's RAW being such a bad show was due to the company just recently returning from shows in the UK. This left the writing team with little time to put together RAW, and they were still working on parts of the show late yesterday afternoon. The general consensus backstage was that the show was a disaster." Oh boo hoo, the "creative" geniuses didn't have time to work on the show? Give me a break. I remember when the WWF used to be all about having their shit sorted out months in advance. Now they're down to Bischoff booking. On the fly. Steph: Oh geez. It's 4pm on Monday! Maybe we should start writing the show for tonight?! Gerwitz: I shouldn't have drank so much beer. Steph: That was non-alcoholic beer. Gerwitz: ... Triple H: Ah, relax. If it tanks. We'll blame it on Jericho. Even though he's not on the show. But, I'm not on the show, so we probably shouldn't make it as INTENSE~! as Smackdown is going to be. Well, only because I'm there. Heyman: GORE! GORE!! GORE!!! Steph: What's with Paul? Gerwitz: Oh, I sold him some speed so he could lose all that weight. It's working too.. Steph: *thinks* Hmm, can I get some of that? How does Ryder know this? WWF doesn't give reasons for shit out liek that. Lots of wrestlers sit in, namely Undertaker, Austin, and HHH; as well as those who have something at stake (Angle and Jericho por ejemplo). Basically, Steph is head. Gerwitz is there. Heyman, Hayes, Patterson, the agents (Ace, Finlay, Malenko are the main guys). There's more, but those are the ones off the top of my head.Brian aren't those production meetings? They are something different right? Also there must be more writers than that, They have alot of soap opera writers or so I was told
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