Guest goodhelmet Posted May 21, 2002 Report Posted May 21, 2002 From the Torch: NEWS: Nash and Waltman threaten to quit, upset with booking direction May 21, 2002 12:46 pm Things got heated backstage last night at Raw as Kevin Nash and Sean Waltman let the writing crew know how upset they were with the storylines they had been given in recent weeks. At one point, both wrestlers threatened to quit. Vince McMahon wasn't backstage since he was producing the Steve Austin, Eddie Guerrero segment. Stephanie McMahon wasn't at TV either as she had a personal obligation to tend to. That left Shane McMahon and the writing staff to try to quell the situation. The writing crew came to a truce with Nash and Waltman, who ended up helping to rewrite their segments on Raw last night. It's tell-tale sign when Nash is happy with a storyline when he gives it his all, as he clearly was motivated last night during his segment.
Guest Posted May 21, 2002 Report Posted May 21, 2002 Hm. That's what we need, for Nash to have control over his own storylines...
Guest notJames Posted May 21, 2002 Report Posted May 21, 2002 Wah wah wah. I just hope the storyline centers on Booker T and not Nash. At least he's got an upside.
Guest Posted May 21, 2002 Report Posted May 21, 2002 Nash having some control over his promos and Segments isn't that big a deal. It's when he gets control of the booking is when you have to watch out.
Guest Posted May 21, 2002 Report Posted May 21, 2002 I thought that NwO promo in the ring was reety sweet. With Nash in there leading them and grouping them all toghther. I think it made them look like a stronger unit. Like when the nWo first came to the WWeeee. Hopefully we will see some more nWo run ins. Sould be good.
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Posted May 21, 2002 Report Posted May 21, 2002 Same report...worded differently: "Kevin Nash and X-Pac let the WWE booking team know last night they were upset with recent storylines they had been given in recent weeks. The situation got so heated that both men threatened to quit. Stephanie McMahon was not at Raw because she had a personal situation to tend to, and Vince McMahon was not backstage during the argument because he was producing the Steve Austin and Eddie Guerrero skits. This left only Shane McMahon and the booking team to calm the situation. The booking team eventually came to an agreement with the Nash and X-Pac when they let the two help write their segments on Raw last night. Nash seemed to be happy about the truce as he was clearly motivated during his segment last night." Did everyone miss how much was explained in that report? Raw was good...and Steph and Vince weren't there.... The Karaoke parts dragged on...and Vince produced them. Is there any moer indication that Steph needs to go?
Guest Posted May 21, 2002 Report Posted May 21, 2002 Man if only Shane could have got them to quit The Nwo promo last night wasn't bad i think they came off like faces though which i didn't like What a load Nash is he won't work hard in an angle if he doesn't personally like it what a selfish prick
Guest WWF4Life Posted May 21, 2002 Report Posted May 21, 2002 What a load Nash is he won't work hard in an angle if he doesn't personally like it what a selfish prick Yeah, just like Steve Austin. Nash did seem motivated last night, which is a good thing I guess. They need to do something to make the nWo a viable threat though...Scott Steiner needs to come in soon if he's 100%.
Guest goodhelmet Posted May 21, 2002 Report Posted May 21, 2002 "What a load Nash is he won't work hard in an angle if he doesn't personally like it what a selfish prick " Damn I thought you were talking about Steve Austin for a sec.
Guest Posted May 21, 2002 Report Posted May 21, 2002 I never said Austin wasn't a selfish prick People putting the company ahead of themselves even when they look like shit like Jericho always doing the job to HHH or Angle getting his head shaved are the talented ones
Guest oldschoolwrestling Posted May 21, 2002 Report Posted May 21, 2002 Vince don't take kindly to superstars with egos. Wait, let me rephrase that. Vince don't take kindly to superstars with egos who don't draw him money. Look for Nash and the WWE to "mutually part" and for XPac to be jobbing on Heat.
Guest Posted May 21, 2002 Report Posted May 21, 2002 Nash not draw? but he's part of the NwO they will always draw right right guys huh no o yea right nevermind sorry i was channeling Vince from about 5 months ago
Guest Black Tiger Posted May 21, 2002 Report Posted May 21, 2002 The nWo needs to have RVD join. RVD has no shot at ever beating Undertaker anyways. Guerrero is feuding with Austin. RVD ought to join the nWo. They'd be over huge, and they seem to be pretty over right now.
Guest Posted May 21, 2002 Report Posted May 21, 2002 Black Tiger have you signed up for a spot on the WWe writing team cuz brother i think you have a job under Steph for sure
Guest oldschoolwrestling Posted May 21, 2002 Report Posted May 21, 2002 The nWo needs to have RVD join. RVD has no shot at ever beating Undertaker anyways. Guerrero is feuding with Austin. RVD ought to join the nWo. They'd be over huge, and they seem to be pretty over right now. That would only happen if you made the NWO faces. RVD was the only guy in the Alliance getting cheers so they had to turn him face. He needs to be elevated and allowed to beat some of the higher ups. He also needs to learn how to cut promos.
Guest The Mighty Damaramu Posted May 21, 2002 Report Posted May 21, 2002 Well RVD joining is so far from what anyone needs. That would kill his heat. And would make zero sense.
Guest Kinetic Posted May 21, 2002 Report Posted May 21, 2002 This is *good* news, in my opinion. The segment came off pretty damn well, more or less erasing the B-team stigma that the nWo has developed over the last two months. If, like Nash or Austin, you're in a position to take a stand against terrible booking you should do it. I whole-heartedly support the wrestlers declaring mutiny backstage if it'll make the bookers do a better job.
Guest oldschoolwrestling Posted May 21, 2002 Report Posted May 21, 2002 This is *good* news, in my opinion. The segment came off pretty damn well, more or less erasing the B-team stigma that the nWo has developed over the last two months. If, like Nash or Austin, you're in a position to take a stand against terrible booking you should do it. I whole-heartedly support the wrestlers declaring mutiny backstage if it'll make the bookers do a better job. Yeah, it did a great job for WCW.
Guest bcu1979 Posted May 21, 2002 Report Posted May 21, 2002 Oh what a big loss that would have been. A career flunkie and a worthless backstage politician who moves slower than Hulk Hogan. The most pathetic thing on RAW last night was X-Pac looking like he was about to cry as if Nash's speech was so inspirational and moving. Shane should have let them walk out the door. Think of all the money Vince would have saved on their contracts. And two less allies for the current and future king and queen of the WWE. And they could have just sent Big Show back to the fat farm in Ohio in hopes he would quit too. What the hell is the NWO going to do anyways? Austin's already beat all of them. RVD is hopefully moving up the card. Are they going to feud with Goldust and the Hardys? The only guy in the whole group with any redeeming qualities is Booker T and he'll be out of the group in a few weeks anyways.
Guest cobainwasmurdered Posted May 21, 2002 Report Posted May 21, 2002 austin hasn't beaten Nash yet. fuck, first people complain because they're acting like jobbers and than when the storyline finally seems to be picking up, some people won't even give it a chance.
Guest Posted May 21, 2002 Report Posted May 21, 2002 hey if the Nwo angle works now then ok fine hell i hope more angles make more sense i'm just saying Things could be worse than Nash and X-pac walking out
Guest Posted May 21, 2002 Report Posted May 21, 2002 I definitely don't approve of wrestlers having a huge amount of control over their angles, characters, etc etc. But Nash (and XPac but I doubt he did much) saw that the nWo thing was stalling and sucked, so he stepped in, which made for the best nWo angle and segment in the WWF since Rock was "injured" by Hogan....that's a time period spanning three months. Who better to have say in nWo storyline matters than Nash? And who knows what would have happened if he didn't step in, probably another week of the nWo in another meaningless tag match, being made to look like pussies (And yes, I know they lost in a tag against the Hardyz, but it was only to have some actual storyline advancement). austin hasn't beaten Nash yet. fuck, first people complain because they're acting like jobbers and than when the storyline finally seems to be picking up, some people won't even give it a chance. Word.
Guest TheMikeSC Posted May 21, 2002 Report Posted May 21, 2002 Hmmm, isn't it funny that Nash & Waltman wait until Vince and Steph are gone and Ross is on-camera commentating to pitch their little fit? Nice timing on their part, I must say. Shane should have accepted their resignations---then went on-camera and shot all over them. -=Mike
Guest TheHulkster Posted May 21, 2002 Report Posted May 21, 2002 It's nice to see someone taking a stand. The NWO has been booked horribly since they came into the WWF. If I were Nash, I would be pissed off too.
Guest Posted May 21, 2002 Report Posted May 21, 2002 I agree with what someone else said earlier... it's fine if they have control of their angles, just as long as they don't start booking. Then that becomes a problem. I don't blame Nash, I mean he's been pretty much a useless piece of shit so far, but he came in as part of the biggest angle. The nWo has not won a payperview yet, and have basically been made to look like complete shit with no credibility whatsoever. Nash is fine on the mic... as long as he isn't in the ring wrestling I'm ok with it. But X-Pac however, what business does he have threatening to quit? Please... he would be in the lower card jobbing if he weren't buddies with Nash. Stuff like that- X-pac threatening to quit- makes me laugh.
Guest razazteca Posted May 21, 2002 Report Posted May 21, 2002 What are the problems that Nash have with the current nWo storyline? Is it that Flair as the leader made it actually entertaining or is it that Nash desires more tv time? The last few weeks have been in my opinion the best angle by the nWo, since they 1st poison the WWF. With Flair, Big Show, Booker T as the nWo has been must see tv instead of watching the microwave cooking popcorn. There is an actual direction for the nWo, instead of half-assed promos, there is something to look forward to.....how is Golddust going to screw up the match. Plus The Big Show has become more than an novelity act, Paul Wright went from being another boring 7 footer big slow to being a heel with a purpose, plus his matches have been more entertaining than the usual Giant vs Mini Me matches.
Guest RetroRob215 Posted May 21, 2002 Report Posted May 21, 2002 I liked the nWo segment. For all we know, Nash and Waltman may have made the segment better than it was when Vince/Steph made it. I think the wrestlers should have a say in the product. They know what is best for the business because they ARE the business.
Guest MarvinisaLunatic Posted May 21, 2002 Report Posted May 21, 2002 Should have let em quit. WWE would be better with out em.
Guest evenflowDDT Posted May 21, 2002 Report Posted May 21, 2002 Shane should have accepted their resignations---then went on-camera and shot all over them. -=Mike No! Much as I like Shane, the fact that he actually stayed off TV after Survivor Series 2K1 is an amazing feat of the WWF (because that's what they were called back then) actually keeping a storyline continuous, and we all know they couldn't do that with Stephanie so Shane staying away added a shred of credibility to the angle... what were we talking about? Oh yea, Nash & Pac. I can't believe it, the one RAW I miss and Kevin Nash is actually motivated. When am I gonna see that again?! Also, like so many others, I really have no problem with them writing their own segments to make themselves look better and get over. If they get into the booking... that's a much different story.
Guest Posted May 21, 2002 Report Posted May 21, 2002 Nash did the right thing; only that before, he used to do it for the wrong reasons. Leave it be; that was the best NwO promo I have seen since after No Way Out.
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