Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Posted June 25, 2002 Report Posted June 25, 2002 ahem... so Brock isnt nearly ready or over enough to main event a ppv...and Summerslam is a scant 8 weeks away. What I see them doing is putting Brock over Rock at SS...hoping that works out. It won't. But I digress... Here is what they should do...IMO: So...RVD ***** frog splashed Heyman? Perfect. Heyman should demand Brock take on RVD at Vengeance to get his...you know VENGEANCE on RVD. Now either Vince can say "In the interest of fairness" or RVD can can say "hey...why don't you put that title shot on the line" or whatever...but the SummerSlam shot is on the line. The IC title is not...because Heyman or Brock will cost RVD the title to someone...maybe Eddy...he NEEDS something to do...on RAW. The challenge from Heyman will come following this match...in fact RVD can even say something to the effect of "you cost me one title...so I'll take your shot at another one" or something. So we get to Vengeance....and Heyman accidentally costs Brock the match and the title shot. BROCK is so pissed not only at losing the match...but for having the shot on the line because of Heyman in the first place that he destroys Heyman after the match. Let's face it...Brock isnt over as a heel...lets give face a try. If given a reason to give a shit about Brock...fans will stop chanting Goldberg. Now RVD can go on to win his blowoff with Taker at SummerSlam that he so rightly deserves...and a newly face Brock can feud with whoever Heyman selects to try and destroy him. When does Rhyno come back? cause that would work. How about Benoit with HEyman speaking for him? Thats the kind of feud that can teach Brock to work a match (ala RVD learning to use his spots with Eddy) and should end up elavating both of them to main event overness. Any takers?
Guest El Psycho Diablo Posted June 25, 2002 Report Posted June 25, 2002 I was saying earlier..why not have a two fall match at Vengeance? First fall gets the IC title, second gets the SS title shot? It'd work. Good ideas, bps. Though I think Benoit should NOT have a manager. If he's ever going to be ME, he needs to learn to cut promos. No promos, no main. It's that simple. -Shiro
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Posted June 25, 2002 Report Posted June 25, 2002 hmm...2 out of three falls sounds EXCELLENT. Brock could dominate RVD for the IC title...then keep dominating him until Heymans interference costs him the match. That sounds AWESOME. It would put over Brock more than any amount of pushing they could do. I'm torn on the Benoit manager thing...only because the most over he's been in the WWE was when he was alligned with Shane O'Mac.
Guest I Fear Hogans Air Guitair Posted June 25, 2002 Report Posted June 25, 2002 2/3 Falls would be cool Brock Gets the IC Title lets face it he's not ready to headline Summerslam and RVD Gets the title shot i still think RVD should go over Brock Clean though to put him over so he looks like a threat for Taker. But who win's the third fall RVD or Brock if RVD loses to the IC Champion will marks actually think he can beat the World Champ and if Brock loses two Straight Falls will he lose the very little Heat he has. It's the Summer of Mr Pay Per View Rob Van Dam.
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Posted June 25, 2002 Report Posted June 25, 2002 Actually I think that two falls for the two different prizes (ala MAnia 16) would be better than having a third fall for nothing.
Guest I Fear Hogans Air Guitair Posted June 25, 2002 Report Posted June 25, 2002 Actually I think that two falls for the two different prizes (ala MAnia 16) would be better than having a third fall for nothing. Oh ok yeah that makes more sense.
Guest Mystery Eskimo Posted June 25, 2002 Report Posted June 25, 2002 RVD definetly needs to get the SS title shot somehow. Brock v Taker won't draw anything. I don't think it matters if Benoit has a manger or not if he's going to be stuck with the likes of Bubba.
Guest BigTim2002 Posted June 25, 2002 Report Posted June 25, 2002 Peoples were saying that Benoit would have AA as a manager, BOMB!
Guest Fook_Hing_Ho Posted June 25, 2002 Report Posted June 25, 2002 I prefer the idea of having RVD challenging at SS instead of Brock, but I think it's too early for Brock to turn on Heyman. Tease it for a few months first to see if the fans will take to Brock as a face. If they turn him too soon and the fans don't get behind him, he'll never recover.
Guest Perfect_Bo Posted June 25, 2002 Report Posted June 25, 2002 I have a question... What makes you think that Undertaker is even going to be champion by SS? He might lose it at Ven... And with the thing about Brock and Rock (From what I heard lately) Rock might be champ and Brock can face it... ANd you know that Rock is over... Rock will sell everything Brock throws and that might put Brock over... There's a lot of situation that can happen and only our imagination can see it... Question is, can Vince see it?
Guest Anglesault Posted June 25, 2002 Report Posted June 25, 2002 Rock couldn't get Test over, I don't think he'll get Brock over either. Although Brock DOES have a better shot than Test
Guest Brian Posted June 25, 2002 Report Posted June 25, 2002 I wast thinking going into last night that RVD was going to drop the title. He's going to stay over despite being the loser to Brock. And if Brock doesn't get over by the week before Vengeance, you book Brock vs. RVD for the shot. If he does get over, you book it for the IC title. At least that would seem like something the WWE would do.
Guest El Satanico Posted June 25, 2002 Report Posted June 25, 2002 two falls for IC and title shot would be better then RVD losing the IC before hand. RVD putting up the IC would be good enough reason for Heyman to agree to the match. It would play on Heyman's greedy and cocky act which will eventually lead to Brock turning on Heyman. Brock would destroy RVD in the first fall for the IC. Then Brock would dominate RVD in the second fall until the RVD chants get louder and louder then RVD makes a come back. As Heyman is going nuts and Brock is looking shocked as nothing he does will keep RVD down for the 3. RVD stuns Brock with a few kicks to the head when Heyman loses control grabs a chair and jumps on the ring apron and while he tries handing it to Brock RVD pulls the Van Daminator then a 5star for the pin. RVD gets the title shot like he should. Brock still looks credible and is IC champ which is the highest he should be at this point. It's a win win situation.
Guest notJames Posted June 25, 2002 Report Posted June 25, 2002 Judging from KOTR's main event shenanigans, we're most likely seeing a 3-way with UT, HHH and Rock. I can see them putting the title on Rock to guarantee a decent buyrate (in their minds), no matter who they put him against. If it's Brock, I don't see him going over the champ, but it'll be watchable since Rock's more than willing to sell for most anybody. I'd like to see RVD vs. UT at SS, but it doesn't make sense to give him the shot after Brock won it at KOTR. Yeah, I know... (insert remark about WW_ not being about common sense)...
Guest cabbageboy Posted June 25, 2002 Report Posted June 25, 2002 I would imagine after last night that such a contender match will take place on the next PPV. In all honesty I have no idea who would win it. I'd say it depends on how over Brock gets over the next month. If he is still unover, job the #1 slot to RVD for SS. If he manages to get over somewhat might as well let him go to SS and face Rock. Why not Rock vs. RVD at SS?
Guest TheDames7 Posted June 25, 2002 Report Posted June 25, 2002 I think bps is absolutely dead on with what they should do for Vengeance and SummerSlam. Last night on Raw, when Lesnar told Heyman to shut up, he got his first real pop, so he does have some face potential. Dames
Guest Slingshot Suplex Posted June 25, 2002 Report Posted June 25, 2002 Is it any kind of possible that RVD wins the WWE title before SummerSlam and defends against Brock in a KOTR rematch? They'd have a couple months to build to it off of.
Guest goodhelmet Posted June 25, 2002 Report Posted June 25, 2002 "I think bps is absolutely dead on with what they should do for Vengeance and SummerSlam. Last night on Raw, when Lesnar told Heyman to shut up, he got his first real pop, so he does have some face potential. " heY, Dames! make sure to let me know when a match that can go past *** is on RAW. in the meantime, after last night's rating, you probably won't see brock or rvd anywhere the main event ever again, at least not rvd.
Guest Anglesalt Posted June 26, 2002 Report Posted June 26, 2002 The RAW ratings are all Test's fault. After his horrible match against Brock on Sunday, every wrestling fan said "Fuck this!" and stopped watching. I don't blame them. Test has NO talent, NO charisma and NO right to be hired by WWE.
Guest goodhelmet Posted June 26, 2002 Report Posted June 26, 2002 The RAW ratings are all Test's fault. After his horrible match against Brock on Sunday, every wrestling fan said "Fuck this!" and stopped watching. I don't blame them. Test has NO talent, NO charisma and NO right to be hired by WWE. and you wonder why you'll never be a mod.
Guest alfdogg Posted June 26, 2002 Report Posted June 26, 2002 That's not Anglesault, it's some other guy.
Guest goodhelmet Posted June 26, 2002 Report Posted June 26, 2002 so it is. my apologies to the real AS.
Guest Nezbyte Posted June 26, 2002 Report Posted June 26, 2002 That's not Anglesault, it's some other guy. Who cares, whoever it is acts pretty much the same. Test for CHAMP. BPS for head booker.
Guest alfdogg Posted June 26, 2002 Report Posted June 26, 2002 If bps is booking, I don't think Test is getting the belt anytime soon.
Guest TheHulkster Posted June 26, 2002 Report Posted June 26, 2002 Thats a touchy situation. I don't think Brock jobbing to RVD at Vengeance would be a good idea at this point. Brock is just at the point where a loss by pinfall would be a big deal for about a week, but not to the point where the person doing it would get over huge. If they job Lesnar to RVD at the next PPV, the steam he had going with his undefeated streak is gone and RVD wouldn't really benefit. If it were Wrestlemania and Brock was still undefeated and lost to RVD, then some money can be made, and it would be a good amount of time that the man has been undefeated. RVD would be a big hero and Brock can go on an insane rampage over losing leading to a rematch at Backlash, but he still looks credible because he was undefeated for almost a year.
Guest Flyboy Posted June 26, 2002 Report Posted June 26, 2002 I think bps is absolutely dead on with what they should do for Vengeance and SummerSlam. I think so too... bps always has good ideas... which means.. it's not happening.
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