cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2009 Val had a solid match with Rikishi in 2000, I think at Fully Loaded? Where Rikishi splashed him from the top of the cage. Another decent Val match was from SS 98 against the recently released D'Lo. But really, it's astonishing that Val has lasted this long. The whole RTC storyline wrecked everyone involved with it, so he probably should have been gone in 2001-02. That said, I had an idea that could have somewhat revived Venis, somewhat similar to what Khali is doing with the Kiss Cam right now. Val, being older and bald now, can't get the hot chicks anymore, so he brings fat chicks out of the crowd instead. Nothing great, but it beats being released. Killings could be so much more over than he is now if they would ever let him cut a promo instead of "WASSUP?" and nothing else. Sure, he's never been the greatest worker but he's adequate. I would say WWE missed the boat on Spears and Kruel, but having seen their OVW work I will say this: Some guys are just regional talents. As in if there was still a USWA type territory, guys like Spears and Kruel would be there much like Mike Samples or whoever from the past. They are the sort of wrestlers a promoter can push (and maybe get over) when there's a dearth of talent. But on a talent filled roster....why push them? That said, it's sad that a guy like Spears gets no chance in WWE while his OVW tag partner Cody Rhodes will be on the main roster for years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2009 How is Ken Kennedy still employed? The guy hasn't wrestled a full schedule since he's debuted with the company. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silence 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2009 How is Ken Kennedy still employed? The guy hasn't wrestled a full schedule since he's debuted with the company. That damn Behind Enemy Lines: Colombia movie WWE keeps shoving down our throats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boner Kawanger 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2009 PWI has some security camera footage from what they have exuberantly dubbed "The Titan Tower Massacre" HHH is asked if he would take a pay cut to save some rookies and D'Lo Ron Simmons reacts to the firing of Val Venis This is reportedly how Vince fired all of the office employees, including this janitor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aero 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2009 Val Venis had some pretty decent matches with both Shelton Benjamin and Randy Orton on Heat during both of their respective IC Title runs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2009 PWI has some security camera footage from what they have exuberantly dubbed "The Titan Tower Massacre" HHH is asked if he would take a pay cut to save some rookies and D'Lo Ron Simmons reacts to the firing of Val Venis This is reportedly how Vince fired all of the office employees, including this janitor Thank you for the Garbage Day reference. It may look like mellow's, but that's actually my sub-title. Hooray! Val Venis vs. Matt Hardy - Backlash 2004 pre-show match. This was pretty awesome and better than some of the stuff on the PPV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2009 PWI has some security camera footage from what they have exuberantly dubbed "The Titan Tower Massacre" HHH is asked if he would take a pay cut to save some rookies and D'Lo Ron Simmons reacts to the firing of Val Venis This is reportedly how Vince fired all of the office employees, including this janitor Thank you for the Garbage Day reference. It may look like mellow's, but that's actually my sub-title. Hooray! Val Venis vs. Matt Hardy - Backlash 2004 pre-show match. This was pretty awesome and better than some of the stuff on the PPV. I came thisclose to embedding the Youtube video. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarKnight 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2009 This reminds me a few months ago where I said the world would end if Val Venus got released, so watch out guys. As for a decent Val Venus match, how about the one with CM Punk on Heat back in 2005? I thought that was pretty good. D-Lo being released was very obvious as I wondered why WWE signed him in the first place, since he doesn't have the nastalgia of the Attitude era, and he's not a new guy either, so he was kind of stuck in the middle. I kinda want WWE to just release guys like Kennedy and Umaga already. Not only because of my personal opinion of them, but also because Kennedy has been injured WAY too many times, and will go nowhere as a babyface. As for Umaga, that gimmick has just ran its course, and he would suck as a babyface too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2009 Wasn't Venis vs. Punk the match that HBK and HHH thought was terrible? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarKnight 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2009 Wasn't Venis vs. Punk the match that HBK and HHH thought was terrible? I don't know. I remember hearing at the time that they thought CM Punk had a horrible match against somebody (they most likely didn't want him to succeed anyway), but I never found out who that was against. Even though the match with Venus went about 5 minutes, I didn't think it was bad or anything. Hell, Kizarny's debut match maybe got the same amount of time, and I thought that really was terrible. I'm surprised he hasn't been cut already after that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2009 Wait, somebody is pissed that Kevin Fertig got released? Seriously? Well, at least the guy had 1 fan. I don't care about Batista's injuries, the guy is just so boring. And (apparently) a douche in real life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Niggardly King 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2009 I don't care about Batista's injuries, the guy is just so boring Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cd213 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2009 PWI has some security camera footage from what they have exuberantly dubbed "The Titan Tower Massacre" HHH is asked if he would take a pay cut to save some rookies and D'Lo I know it's a bit off topic, but is this from that Italian SPIDERMAN movie? I can't believe no one has mentioned Val Venis vs. Kaentai. I loved that little feud. Chopee chopee the pee pee. When I first got back into wrestling, this was the first feud I remember seeing on RAW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tobin 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2009 Fuck, man, I really liked Bam. I love these threads because they prove that every WWE wrestler has a fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Obi Chris Kenobi 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2009 I don't care about Batista's injuries, the guy is just so boring That's the only interesting thing he's been involved in, and he's still living off the back of it. He had a feud with the Undertaker that was half way decent, but I find myself drifting in and out of the bracket where I think he's a decent worker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boner Kawanger 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2009 I know it's a bit off topic, but is this from that Italian SPIDERMAN movie? Yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Psycho Penguin 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2009 Val Venis had most of his better matches in the 1998-2000 range, but he was still a competent worker who could get something out of new guys. Oh well. They weren't using him anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 I can't believe no one has mentioned Val Venis vs. Kaentai. I loved that little feud. Chopee chopee the pee pee. I get the feeling that this is one of angles I'd probably shit on if it happened today, but damned if I didn't love it when I was 15! Probably my favorite memory of Val if I had to name one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cd213 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 I'm such a mark for Kaentai that I would still love that today, no matter how bad it would come off. TAKA was always one of my favorites. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dubq 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 I'm still astounded to this day that almost all of Kaientai were brought in, aside from Kaz Hayashi (aka Shiryu). I had tapes and tapes and tapes of Michinoku Pro stuff and always loved their antics.. I was friggin' dumb-founded when they showed up in WWE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanks for the Fish 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 Earliest memory of Kaientai was when Justin Hawk Bradshaw was Gulliver to the lilliputian Kaientai attack. I thought ithat was their debut, but their wiki says they debuted attacking Taka. I still think the better conclusion to the "chopee chopee your pee pee" angle would have been Val opening Raw all crestfallen, like he did in the original, but instead of bringing out John Wayne Bobbit and explaining shrinkage to the masses, he would have opened a bag and dumped out the shattered Samurai sword which was no match for Val Venis and his Penis of Steel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QOAW 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 Wait, somebody is pissed that Kevin Fertig got released? Seriously? Well, at least the guy had 1 fan Everyone loves Fehr-teej. This isn't Santino we're talkin' about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enigma 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 It was typical Russo booking. They debuted attacking Taka and told Taka to go get a partner. So he got Bradshaw and they did some wacky vignettes of Bradshaw westernizing him. Of course, once it came time for the match, Taka turned on Bradshaw and joined them with no explanation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 It was typical Russo booking. They debuted attacking Taka and told Taka to go get a partner. So he got Bradshaw and they did some wacky vignettes of Bradshaw westernizing him. Of course, once it came time for the match, Taka turned on Bradshaw and joined them with no explanation. We'd get the explaination years later. 44 seconds in is the answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
garfieldsnose 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 Actually Mrs. Yamaguchi-san was Taka's "sister", so that's the reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbs 3K 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 Boy, that video reminded me that I actually kind of miss TAKA. What is he doing these days, anyway? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silence 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 It's really too bad WWE cut the more talented half of Kaientai years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cran Da Maniac 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 PWI is reporting, so it must be news, that Vince's two limo drivers have been let go. Maybe those 2 limo drivers can find a better place in TNA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 PWI is reporting, so it must be news, that Vince's two limo drivers have been let go. Maybe those 2 limo drivers can find a better place in TNA. New tag team champions, THE LIMO DRIVERS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2009 Boy, that video reminded me that I actually kind of miss TAKA. What is he doing these days, anyway? Last I heard he runs his own company, Michinoku Pro, in Japan. That was a few years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
