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Babe Ruth and MVP Awards

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EVIL~! alkeiper

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A discussion a couple days ago prompted the statement that we can not compare Bonds' MVP awards to Ruth, because modern MVP voting did not exist until 1931. This is true. What if modern voting did exist however? I decided to come up with an MVP for each season from 1915-35, the years Ruth was active. My intention is not to demonstrate how many MVPs Ruth should have won, or deserved. Rather it is to predict voting patterns.

 

With that in mind, a couple notes. One, voters would likely look for a player on a contending team. In an eight-team league, first division (top four) would get the job done. Second, remember that certain statistics such as On Base Percentage and Slugging Percentage did not exist. RBIs did not become an official stat until 1920. THE most important statistic of the time was batting average.

 

1915: Ty Cobb

 

Cobb won the batting crown by a 37 point margin and stole 96 bases, 45 more than the nearest competitor. His performance kept the Tigers in contention, falling just 2.5 back of the pennant winning Red Sox.

 

1916: Joe Jackson

 

Tris Speaker was the dominant offensive player of the season, but would voters go for a player on a sixth place team? Odds are the voting would come down to Cobb and "Shoeless Joe" Jackson. The White Sox finished just two back as Jackson hit .341, a 33 point increase over his previous season. Voters love a step-up performance, so my gut tells me Jackson would take this award.

 

1917: Eddie Cicotte

 

The White Sox won the American League by a sizable margin. Cicotte won 28 games and lost 12. His 28 wins were 10 over his previous career high. In addition, Cicotte led the league in earned run average.

 

1918: Walter Johnson

 

Here is a tough one. Ruth went 13-7, led the league in slugging and OPS. The problem is that neither hitting statistic existed at that time. Ty Cobb was again the dominant offensive force, but would voters again take a player on a seventh place team? Walter Johnson takes the award for winning the pitching triple crown on a team that finished just four games out.

 

1919: Ty Cobb

 

The Tigers went 80-60, and yet another Cobb batting title would prompt the voters. Ruth led the league in OBP, slugging and OPS. The problem is that the Red Sox finished fifth. When the trade occured the following winter, writers were not jumping all over themselves to declare the Sox traded the best player in the league. At the time, observers considered hitting for home runs a foolish endeavour that prized the individual over the team.

 

1920: Babe Ruth

 

Three team race between the Indians, White Sox and Yankees. There are three possibilities here. One is Ruth and his 54 home runs. A second is Tris Speaker and his .388 batting average for the pennant winners. A third is Eddie Collins with his .372 batting average and being one of the "clean" Sox. I think 54 home runs is too much to ignore at this point.

 

1921: Babe Ruth

 

59 home runs along with a .378 batting average, third in the league.

 

1922: George Sisler

 

The St. Louis Browns finished a mere game behind the Yankees. While Ruth fell back to 35 home runs, Sisler hit .420. Voters at the time would have loved batting average. They have never voted for a guy having a down season, no matter how good that down season still is.

 

1923: Babe Ruth

 

No contest. The Yankees finished 16 games up, Ruth hit .393.

 

1924: Walter Johnson

 

Johnson won the actual MVP award in this season with another pitching triple crown. The Senators won their first pennant this season as well.

 

1925: Roger Peckinpaugh

 

With Ruth on the mend the race becomes wide open. Stan Coveleski finished 20-5, and led the league in ERA as the Senators won their second consecutive pennant. Peckinpaugh won the damned thing though.

 

1926: Babe Ruth

 

Bounceback season as Ruth hits .372 and leads the league in RBIs by a healthy margin.

 

1927: Lou Gehrig

 

The RBI crown gives Gehrig the award here as the voters likely would like to switch up the award here and there.

 

1928: Lou Gehrig

 

Again Gehrig would have the batting edge here. Ruth and Gehrig tied for RBIs, but I think Gehrig would have more team credibility that the voters might go for.

 

1929: Al Simmons

 

Simmons barely missed a batting crown and led the league in RBIs for the league champion.

 

1930: Al Simmons

 

A batting crown, second in RBIs. A note that I would not underestimate the voters giving Mickey Cochrane one of these awards.

 

1931: Lefty Grove

1932: Jimmie Foxx

1933: Jimmie Foxx

1934: Mickey Cochrane

1935: Gabby Hartnett (NL)

 

Four for Ruth, best I can manage. You can argue for him getting six or seven. That said, let's see what Win Shares has to say about the best players in each season.

 

1915: Ty Cobb

1916: Tris Speaker

1917: Ty Cobb

1918: Babe Ruth

1919: Babe Ruth

1920: Babe Ruth

1921: Babe Ruth

1922: Red Faber

1923: Babe Ruth

1924: Babe Ruth

1925: Al Simmons

1926: Babe Ruth

1927: Babe Ruth

1928: Babe Ruth

1929: Al Simmons/Jimmie Foxx

1930: Lou Gehrig

1931: Lefty Grove

1932: Jimmie Foxx

1933: Jimmie Foxx

1934: Lou Gehrig

1935: Arky Vaughan (NL)

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When did on-base, and slugging become official stats?

 

Why did Peckinbaugh win the MVP over Sam Rice or Goose Goslin?

I'm sorry it took me a long time to come to this. I neglected to check my replies.

 

OBP developed in the 1950s thanks to Branch Rickey's in-house statistician, Allan Roth. Pete Palmer emphasized the statistic in his work in the 1970s, and it became official in 1984. Slugging percentage dates back to original baseball writer Henry Chadwick. He did not push the stat though and it didn't become official until 1923, mainly because it was a great measure to tout Babe Ruth. Credit to Peter Morris' A Game of Inches for that information.

 

Looking at Peckinpaugh, the Sporting News article I found touts his veteran leadership, effort, honesty, integrity. Presumably Peckinpaugh got a great deal of credit for being the team's shortstop, much like Marty Marion in 1944 for the Cardinals. I get the impression it wasn't considered an elite honor at the time, it got very little press. The only real importance of the selection is that after Peckinpaugh committed eight errors in the World Series, they moved future announcements to after the season.

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