Smarks Favorite Movie Tourney, round 2 results

[Guest Youth N Asia]

Here's the score from round 2...like last time please post thoughts here instead of in the next round bracket.

 

And by the way you are all going to hell for putting Jaws over The Hustler

 

Round 3 will be up in a few

 

GROUP A

 

12 Monkeys...8

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A Clockwork Orange...31

 

Airplane!...12

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Alien...27

 

Army of Darkness...19

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Back to the Future...20

 

Better Off Dead...5

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The Big Lebowski...31

 

Blazing Saddles...20

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Braveheart...18

 

Casablanca...11

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Citizen Kane...25

 

Clerks...23

vs

Crow, The...15

 

Dawn of the Dead...22

vs

Day the Earth Stood Still, The...15

 

GROUP B

 

Die Hard...22

vs

Ed Wood...16

 

Fargo...21

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Ferris Beuller's Day Off...17

 

Fight Club...24

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Full Metal Jacket...15

 

Ghostbusters...8

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Godfather, The...28

 

Goodfellas...24

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Halloween...14

 

Heat...23

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High Fidelity...15

 

Hustler, The...13

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Jaws...24

 

Lawrence of Arabia...18

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Leon: the Professional...17

 

GROUP C

 

Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring...21

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Matrix, The...18

 

Memento...26

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Naked Gun, The...13

 

Night of the Living Dead...19

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North by Northwest...18

 

Princess Bride, The...10

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Pulp Fiction...30

 

Reservoir Dogs...23

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Rocky...18

 

Saving Private Ryan...18

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Scarface...22

 

Schindler's List...26

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Searching For Bobby Fischer...12

 

Se7en...17

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Silence of the Lambs...22

 

GROUP D

 

[/b]Shawshank Redemption, The...31

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Spaceballs...7

 

Star Wars: A New Hope...9

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Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back...30

 

Taxi Driver...24

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Terminator 2...16

 

Third Man, The...16

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Tombstone...21

 

Traffic...18

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Trainspotting...19

 

Truman Show, The...20

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Unforgiven...19

 

Usual Suspects, The...34

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Warriors, The...3

 

Wizard of Oz, The...22

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Young Frankenstein...19

[Guest Kagato Otaku]

And by the way you are all going to hell for putting Jaws over The Hustler

 

Rocky losing to Resevoir Dogs is a more grievous offense.

 

I'm surprised AoD and Back to the Future were so close.

[Guest LooseCannon]

Casablanca...11

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Citizen Kane...25

 

 

It's unfortunate that these two were paired up this early, especially when the bracket just below was Clerks vs. The Crow. I personally would've voted the other way, but I can understand why people would vote for Citizen Kane. It bores the shit out of me, but it's got all sorts of the interesting camera work that I don't really pay much attention to.

 

Night of the Living Dead...19

vs

North by Northwest...18

 

This can't really be justified, but at least it was a close vote.

 

 

Schindler's List...26

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Searching For Bobby Fischer...12

 

Why do so many people mistake Schindler's list for a good movie anyway? Never mind, sometimes I forget how fatuous most people's tastes are. This was utterly predictable.

[Guest LooseCannon]

And by the way you are all going to hell for putting Jaws over The Hustler

 

Rocky losing to Resevoir Dogs is a more grievous offence.

 

I'm surprised AoD and Back to the Future were so close.

I voted for Reservoir Dogs, but I'll concede that it was a tough vote for me. Rocky was the only movie out of that series that was any good, and I think people tend to underrate it. On the other hand, Reservoir Dogs is a little overrated, but I still think it edges out Rocky. Personally, I enjoy it more.

[Guest Ravenbomb]

Dawn of the Dead, Memento, Taxi Driver and Usual Suspects all get my vote

Taxi Driver gets 2 from me

[Guest El Satanico]

How the hell does The Truman Show keep winning.

 

Would've been nice to see Ed Wood pick up another upset win.

[Guest C.H.U.D.]

Why do so many people mistake Schindler's list for a good movie anyway? Never mind, sometimes I forget how fatuous most people's tastes are.  This was utterly predictable.

Yes, since you like Bobby Fischer more than Schindler's List, anyone else who thinks otherwise is wrong.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

Searching for Bobby Fischer loses to the second most overrated film of all time.

 

Last round Jacob's Ladder lost to THE most overrated movie of all time.

 

And Ed Wood lost to Die Hard.

 

All my movies are gone.

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

At least Lawrence got through.

[Guest godthedog]

i love how the people who don't like 'schindler's list' can never, you know, BACK UP THEIR REASONING.

 

and i did my part for the hustler, dammit.

[Guest WrestlingDeacon]

I don't see where all the love for Searching for Bobby Fischer comes from? It's a decent movie, but was little more than a blip on the radar and I don't think I've seen it on t.v. in over three years. I can look at a lot of movies and see why it might be one of somebody's favorites, but I look at Fischer and really can't come up with anything. Someone pimp it to me.

 

However, this could be just me still ticked off that it beat my favorite movie The Searchers in the first round which hardly anyone here has probably ever seen, because it's a John Wayne western, which makes the crosses comes out and the garlic go up for anyone under 40.

[Guest godthedog]

i don't think 'searching for bobby fischer' could lay any claim to legitimately being one of the greatest movies ever, it just tells a really great story that's ripe for personal favorites. it's just something that speaks to a lot of people emotionally, like 'the shawshank redemption'.

[Guest LooseCannon]

I wouldn't call Searching for Bobby Fischer one of the greatest movies of all time either, but it beats the shit out of Clerks which is still in this thing. I don't like Schindler's List for the same reasons I don't like Saving Private Ryan, it's just cheap melodrama packaged with the patented Spielberg gloss and marketed to people with beigist tastes. Oh but I know it's in black and white, and there's that scene with the little girl in the red jacket. I remain unimpressed.

 

And, CHUD, it's not that anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong, but it is a serious indictment of their taste.

[Guest godthedog]

I wouldn't call Searching for Bobby Fischer one of the greatest movies of all time either, but it beats the shit out of Clerks which is still in this thing. I don't like Schindler's List for the same reasons I don't like Saving Private Ryan, it's just cheap melodrama packaged with the patented Spielberg gloss and marketed to people with beigist tastes. Oh but I know it's in black and white, and there's that scene with the little girl in the red jacket. I remain unimpressed.

 

And, CHUD, it's not that anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong, but it is a serious indictment of their taste.

'schindler's list' has 2 things 'saving private ryan' doesn't: subtlety and complex characters. it makes all the difference. everyone in 'saving private ryan' is so wholesome it makes me want to puke. the 2 men at the center of 'schindler's list' are enormously complex. neither is fully good nor evil, and neither has motivations that are fully explained. schindler breaking down at the end works as a genuine payoff & not a cheap trick because up until that point he'd played everything poker-faced. the cemetary scenes of 'saving private ryan' are totally transparent & can't even compare.

 

and i defy you to point to any single use of color in any movie that's better utilized than the girl in the red jacket. go on. i also hardly think the liquidation of the ghetto appears geared towards people with "beigist" tastes

 

the photography of 'schindler's list' was also a thousand times better than anything in 'searching for bobby fischer'

[Guest LooseCannon]

I wouldn't call Searching for Bobby Fischer one of the greatest movies of all time either, but it beats the shit out of Clerks which is still in this thing.  I don't like Schindler's List for the same reasons I don't like Saving Private Ryan, it's just cheap melodrama packaged with the patented Spielberg gloss and marketed to people with beigist tastes.  Oh but I know it's in black and white, and there's that scene with the little girl in the red jacket.  I remain unimpressed.  

 

And, CHUD, it's not that anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong, but it is a serious indictment of their taste.

'schindler's list' has 2 things 'saving private ryan' doesn't: subtlety and complex characters. it makes all the difference. everyone in 'saving private ryan' is so wholesome it makes me want to puke. the 2 men at the center of 'schindler's list' are enormously complex. neither is fully good nor evil, and neither has motivations that are fully explained. schindler breaking down at the end works as a genuine payoff & not a cheap trick because up until that point he'd played everything poker-faced. the cemetary scenes of 'saving private ryan' are totally transparent & can't even compare.

 

 

 

I'll buy that. I still feel that Spielberg is selling sentimentality like in all of his other movies, but perhaps it is a little more nuanced here. Subtlety is not Spielberg's strongsuit, but I'll give you that this was maybe his best effort.

 

and i defy you to point to any single use of color in any movie that's better utilized than the girl in the red jacket.  go on.

 

Let me think and get back to you. We may have different ideas on good use of color, because I really didn't like the red jacket stuff. It just struck me as gimmicky.

 

i also hardly think the liquidation of the ghetto appears geared towards people with "beigist" tastes

 

Even if I believed I was required to break the movie down scene by scene to justify that line, I think I could come up with an argument for that scene. You wouldn't agree with it, but I'd live with that.

 

the photography of 'schindler's list' was also a thousand times better than anything in 'searching for bobby fischer'

 

This may be true. But I would say that the photography in Schindler's list is too slick and comes off kind of plasticy and glossy to me. I think it would be better if it had more of a gritty noirishness to it or to give it a documentary effect.

[Guest godthedog]

works for me.

[Guest WrestlingDeacon]

The best use of color ever in a movie has to be Pleasantville. Everything turns color at a certain time for a certain reason. You just have to analyze it. When Joan Allen has that one tear running down her cheek and the grey makeup is smeared to peach, that's a hell of a shot.

[Guest LooseCannon]

The best use of color ever in a movie has to be Pleasantville. Everything turns color at a certain time for a certain reason. You just have to analyze it. When Joan Allen has that one tear running down her cheek and the grey makeup is smeared to peach, that's a hell of a shot.

That actually was one of the first things I thought of, but I want to ruminate on this question a little more, because I think there are some really good things out there that I just can't think of at the moment.

[Guest godthedog]

actually, i don't think the color thing of 'pleasantville' works at all, because the movie's so much more beautiful in black and white that i start to get mad when things get colorized. the first half or third of that movie is just gorgeous to me, but in color it's just kinda there.

[Guest godthedog]

the green light in 'vertigo' was pretty damn cool.

[Guest LooseCannon]

actually, i don't think the color thing of 'pleasantville' works at all, because the movie's so much more beautiful in black and white that i start to get mad when things get colorized. the first half or third of that movie is just gorgeous to me, but in color it's just kinda there.

Even so, the specific moment Wrestling Deacon is talking about is pretty good. Just the way she has her back turned kind've slouched and then she turns and she's in color with the tear running down her face works pretty well, I think.

 

The green light in Vertigo is also good. that's probably one of my five favorite movies, though I don't watch it so much anymore, because the first three quarters of the movie gets kind've tedious on subsequent viewings. But I think that's Hitchcock's finest film out of many fine films.

[Guest Incandenza]

I fucking hated that red coat in Schindler's List. It screams SYMBOLISM!

[Guest godthedog]

i thought the whole idea of the girl in the coat was that she didn't symbolize anything. she was just a random little girl that schindler started paying attention to. it could've been anybody.

[Guest imajackoff?]

At least Lawrence got through.

I recently got to see LOA for the first time, on the big screen nontheless! I thought the first 3/4 of the film were sensational, but the last act was dissapointing IMO. Still worthy of a thumbs up, but a bit of a letdown when it was all said and done.

[Guest J*ingus]

I am deeply disappointed in everyone who has voted for Tombstone thus far. It in no way deserved winning over either of its competitors.

 

And yes, I did love Schindler's List, it's one of my favorite movies of all times, and I liked Saving Private Ryan too, and there's nothing anyone can do about it, MUWAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!