zappafrank
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plus they got to hack up Nitros so we don't see Benoit, especially when it gets to the Booker T feud.I was actually concerned about how the early days of Nitro will go since we're getting close to the Horsemen reformation, which obviously is Benoit/Woman heavy (everyone's talking about Benoit getting edited out, but don't forget that they took Woman out completely of the History of ECW, too).
How quickly did Nitro take over the flagship spot? Did a lot of storyline development still happen on WCWSN for a while, or did they shift almost immediately over to the Nitro?
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Eric Bischoff saying on nitro he has a surprise that Vince Mcmahan can't do anything aboutDidn't this turn out to be the Goldberg heel turn?
It was intended to be the announcement of Mandalay Sports Entertainment buying WCW for 600 mil which would have put them in a spot to potentially finally kill off Vince's company for good...that fell through, so they went on with the Goldberg turn.
I thought the Mandalay deal was closer to 2001, while the heel turn was GAB 2000 (June).
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Eric Bischoff saying on nitro he has a surprise that Vince Mcmahan can't do anything aboutDidn't this turn out to be the Goldberg heel turn?
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The History of ECW shows on 24/7 won't be as fun without the wacky interplay b/w Tazz and Styles.
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I pawed through the new WWE Encyclopedia book tonight at Barnes and Noble, and I must say I'm impressed. This book is thorough, covering just about everything of importance in the companies history, and profiling nearly every single wrestler / gimmick to appear, including one shots like Friar Ferguson and Phantasio, and Ed Leslie's unidentified masked character that appeared twice and vanished. I'm sure someone will eventually come up with a list of everyone who was ommited, but just from my quick look through the book, TL Hopper and Jim Neidhart's "Who" character are absent, which I find odd seeing how they were at least as noteworthy as Battle Kat or Freddy Joe Floyd, both of whom do appear. Velvet Macentyre is also absent from the book, and she held the Women's title! Other than that however, I couldn't find anyone else they had missed, regardless of obscurity.Here's a few off the top of my head who had very limited time:
Key (Vic Grimes)
Stephanie's trainer
Buff Bagwell
Mad Maxine
Scott Hudson
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When they opened the show with blood (which may have been Flair doing his own thing) and followed it with an Extreme Rules match (which admittedly is not a super violent affair or anything), I did wonder if Vince's panic mode got him thinking that PG is not for him.A few times last night, for the 1st time I can recall I actually was wondering, "OK, is all of this really necessary?"
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They realized that Matt Hardy burning now Jeff's house and killing his dog was ridiculous....edited it all out....and seemingly revamped the feud to something better.Yeah, I thought that was all pretty low of them to do, even if Jeff and Matt agreed to it.
This whole WM doesn't seem to have a very "fun" atmosphere about it. So much of it is pretty dark.
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So how exactly was last night's ending PG again? It actually got a bit uncomfortable to watch after a bit.
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Now that I think about it, I've always felt that the whole concept, formation, and execution of Evolution was contrived. It just didn't seem natural at all, and was obviously "HHH trying to have 4 Horsemen glory."
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In a different twist on the "It's not the 25th anniversary till next year" deal, do you think anyone actually had the balls to point out the obvious to Vince?
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I was at a sports bar for SummerSlam 99, and one of the loudest pops of the evening was when Test pinned Shane for the 3 count in the Love Her or Leave Her match. I know it might seem overstated, but for that match and that moment Test was mega-over.
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The most contrived sequence is another one you see a lot of in Indy matches, usually between spot monkeys, where one guy will sweep the legs of the other guy and go for the cover but then roll himself off, get up, and then the other guy will do the sweep/roll off part, and then they'll both kip up and stare at each other while the fans clap like obedient Pavlovian dogs.RVD, we're looking at you.
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I've never understood why the crowd pops so hard when a face wins a title match via DQ or count-out. What's the point of winning the match (esp. when it's nothing you did that won the match for you) if you didn't win the title?
See: Luger vs. Yoko, Summerslam '93
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Angle / Lesnar - WM XIX. Although it would've been awesome for Brock to have landed on Kurt, the sick looking botch made the match memorable (aka another Wrestlemania Moment!) and it added story to their feud later on in 2003.I have to disagree here. I remember that when Brock faced Big Show at the prior Survivor Series, I was thinking it would be then when he would bust out the SSP, with Big Show being so heavy to get into position for the F5. But it was also around that time when I started saying to my friends, "Angle/Brock is the WM money match, just watch."
So when the match did happen, it was all kinds of epic in my opinion. We all knew Brock could hit the SSP (there had been footage floating around of him in OVW nailing it), so when he went up at the end for the coup d'grace, it should have been a moment for the ages. Instead, it came across as someone who was trying something he couldn't do, and it really deflated the whole aura of the match. We all know it's worked, but when a move that's so contrived doesn't deliver, it kind of shatters the illusion.
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Jericho and Kelly have been an open secret for a while now.This is the 1st I've ever heard of it. *shrug*
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It's not so much siding with a heel, since both guys were faces, but in the whole HBK/Batista feud over Flair's retirement, I thought Batista came across really badly. The issue was b/w Flair and HBK, and somehow Batista took it upon himself to pass judgment.
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-Whenever someone wants to interrupt an interview, they must always have their music played. They wanna say something so badly that they first need to inform the sound guy to play their music before going to the ring.Like I already said, I imagine it as the entrance music guy sitting backstage and playing a wrestler's music as they pass him towards the stage (Unless they tell him not to), not the wrestlers asking for it to be played.
What about when music plays and then the wrestler enters from a part of the arena nowhere near the entrance, coming through the crowd or something? Does he call the music guy's cell phone? And if he wants it to be a surprise, does he sit in a supply closet with his hand over the phone, talking really quietly saying, "Hey man, go ahead and play my music, but I'm gonna be entering from somewhere else. Don't tell anyone! Man, this is gonna be neat."
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If I send $14.75 to WWF Merchandising Dept, PO Box 6789 Stamford, CT 06904 and allow 4-6 weeks for delivery, is it likely I'll receive a WrestleMania 1 shirt as advertised on this VHS tape I'm watching?I wonder if the video store will have still my free Coliseum Home Video gift if I ask for it.
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Not that I dont like his music now, but I loved when Kozlov would come to the ring with no music.And no 'tron video, either. Just a feed of the camera following him down the ramp.
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More on entrance music:
Somehow, the guys in the back know exactly which music to play at the end of a beatdown or heated confrontation. If you think about it, they're really forcing their will on the audience.
For example: Legacy beats down Shane, HHH makes the save, agents including Rotunda and Malenko run in to help out, and HHH music places as he stands triumphant. Malenko's retired and he risked his health out there...ya ever think maybe he deserves to have his James Bond gimmick music played?!
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Similar to above, wrestlers must train really hard for elimination matches and wear themselves out as a result. They seem a lot more prone to 3 counts in those matches.However, to defend the above, the kayfabe idea is if you have 60 minutes or 2 more falls to beat your opponent, you're more willing to let yourself be counted to the mat instead of exerting the enormous amount of energy we're to believe it takes to raise a shoulder.
"He took that long 2 and a half!"
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When two people who really want to kill each other can't be contained they are ordered to settle their differences in a steel cage.. where the object is to get away from them.Another laugh out loud moment. Thanks.
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-Whenever someone wants to interrupt an interview, they must always have their music played. They wanna say something so badly that they first need to inform the sound guy to play their music before going to the ring.I'm going through some tough times right now and this one legitimately gave me a good, laugh out loud moment. Thank you.
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The funniest part of it all was the WCW cheerleaders like Bob Ryder claiming Russo's ship jump to be the death knell for the WWF's hot streak. As soon as he jumped, tons of stories starting being written about how Russo was behind everything positive the WWF had done since 1997...even though clowns like him had been crapping on the Attitude Era the whole time. All of a sudden Russo was the savior though.Haha, Bob Ryder. I stopped going to 1wrestling b/c of all the damn pop-ups.
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I always thought that guys like Scotty 2 Hotty and Val Venis exemplified JTTS during the end of their runs with WWE.
Jobbers are the guys who elicit the reaction "Who is this guy?" JTTS's are the guys who elicit the reaction "He's still employed?"
JTTS job on RAW, Nitro, SD, etc. But they win in dark matches, on Velocity and Worldwide, etc. In this day and age your typical jobber is probably the champ of your local fed. It's all a matter of exposure.