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WWE General Discussion for July 2007
Perfection replied to Hunter's Torn Quad's topic in The WWE Folder
Now isn't that just so sweet? PWI "The New York Post is reporting today that Hogan has signed on to be the spokesperson for "The Official Uniting Towel Wave of America". Hogan's idea is to get famous people who are feuding, such as Rush Limbaugh & Bill Maher, Rosie O'Donnell & Elizabeth Hasselbeck, to make up and wave a towel next July 4th" -
Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released
Perfection replied to Human Fly's topic in The WWE Folder
Apparently the doctor had pictures of other wrestlers on his walls....oops! -
Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released
Perfection replied to Human Fly's topic in The WWE Folder
Well to be honest, isn't it? If the test is not, the enforcement/punishment of using drugs is. Basically what i gathered from his ramblings is that its OK to take steroids and what caused benoit to do this was really non steroid related. Its not so much what he said that was bad, it was just warrior being warrior...rambling and coming across as a nut. -
Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released
Perfection replied to Human Fly's topic in The WWE Folder
There will be a replay later. I think it comes on again at 12am (eastern), so I suppose it will be 8 where you are at. -
Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released
Perfection replied to Human Fly's topic in The WWE Folder
Hey Hulkster, remind you of anyone in particular? I don't know, someone still trying to live off the Hogan name and living the "Hollywood" gimmick? Not saying Hogan isn't comfortable being an aging biker and that its not a reflection of his real life persona but I hope he realizes this is a pot calling the kettle black moment! lol well said. He sure has no room to talk -
Mr. crappy pants....lmao...'nuff said.
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Um......what? left out "of" but in other words Lashley spearing cena was a good thing, unless of course you are a girl or under 13.
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Lashley spearing Cena is the move of a face to most people over 13 years old and without a vagina.
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Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released
Perfection replied to Human Fly's topic in The WWE Folder
unfortunately he is supposed to be on tonight according to pwi Source – 1Wrestling We can confirm that at least one of the wrestlers initials which were listed in the indictment of Dr. Phil Astin could be a former WCW-WWE wrestler. It states on the 7 count indictment that Dr. Astin improperly prescribed various pain killers and other controlled substances to two individuals listed by the initials "O.G." and "M.J.". A source who is familiar with Dr. Astin's practice said that at least at least one of the individuals (M.J.) is believed to be a former wrestler who worked for WCW and WWE. Reports are also suggesting that "O.G." could be a current WWE wrestler. The two individuals listed by the initials "M.J." and "O.G." could be Mark Jindrak and Oscar Gutierrez which is the real name of Rey Mysterio, however this has not been confirmed and is speculation. "There was a reason guys who lived in the Atlanta area would drive an hour and a half to get to Dr. Astin's office" a source said. -
Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released
Perfection replied to Human Fly's topic in The WWE Folder
Mitchell speculates that its possible the initials that were on that report are Reys and thus the reason for the change. If it was simply a matter of steroid use, obviously lashley wouldn't be pushed like last night. I just have a feeling mcmahon is pushing lashley because he is on steroids, sort of like rubbing it in the face of the dea. yes i do believe he has that big of an ego and is that stupid. -
Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released
Perfection replied to Human Fly's topic in The WWE Folder
And ironically on this same topic, a new article from the ajc Control issues cited instead of 'roid rage' in Benoit killings By KEVIN DUFFY The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Published on: 07/03/07 Domestic violence experts downplay the possible role of steroids in the Chris Benoit killings, saying the tragedy was more about Benoit's anger over control issues at home. Steroid usage has been linked to angry outbursts called "roid rage," and depression when usage stops. RELATED: • Feds: Benoit was prescribed excessive steroids • Control issues cited instead of 'roid rage' • Physician's past: Profile | Suspended, fined (PDF) • Lex Luger believes old pal was in a 'dark place' • Benoit e-mails tell of spiritual guidance • Wikipedia entry revealed death before bodies found But in the case of Benoit, who apparently killed his wife and 7-year-old son during the weekend of June 24 before committing suicide, "that was a premeditated act and that's not rage," said Dr. Gary Wadler of New York, who studies the use of drugs in sports. "I would wonder whether there was some underlying psychiatric abnormality that was unmasked by being on steroids," he said. Kirsten Rambo, executive director of the Georgia Commission on Family Violence, said "it's exactly all about power and control. He was paid to be violent and he took that violence home with him. This is a guy who made a conscious choice to take three lives." Whether Benoit, 40, had recently taken steroids when he killed his wife, Nancy, 43, and son Daniel, who was mentally impaired, is not yet known. A toxicology report due in a few weeks should answer that question. Steroids were found at their Fayette County house near Peachtree City. World Wrestling Entertainment, his employer, said Benoit tested negative for steroids in April. Law enforcement officials twice last week searched the Carrollton office of Benoit's doctor, Phil Astin, who was charged in a federal indictment Monday with selling excessive amounts of prescription drugs, but not steroids. Astin acknowledged he had prescribed testosterone, a steroid, for Benoit. Steroid use can enhance athletic performance. The killings at the Benoit home occurred over an entire weekend, which does not point to rage, experts said. "It's sort of counterintuitive that he's raging for three days straight," said Nancy Grigsby, executive director of the Georgia Coalition Against Domestic Violence. "Unfortunately, it looks like a garden variety domestic violence incident to me. It's a decision, and they're actually typically quite calm when they give themselves permission to do what they want to do." Nancy Benoit filed for divorce in 2003 and sought court protection from her husband. In the protective order petition, she said her husband "lost his temper and threatened to strike the petitioner and cause extensive damage to the home." They reconciled later that year and the divorce action was dismissed. "He wants control over the spouse and the children. When he doesn't get what he wants, he does the killing," DeKalb County Superior Court Judge Clarence Seeliger said. Seeliger is former chairman of the Georgia Commission on Family Violence. "It's a question of disappointment in not being able to dominate his partner," Seeliger said. "He's a murderer. He killed two people. I don't see why he's getting sympathy." 'Medication is a vehicle' Penn State University epidemiologist Charles Yesalis, who has studied steroids for 30 years, said "anabolic steroid rage is a spontaneous behavior. From what I've read, the death of Benoit and his family wasn't spontaneous. I don't see steroids had much, if anything, to do with this." "The outside medication is a vehicle, it is not the cause," said Dick Bathrick of Atlanta-based Men Stopping Violence. "He takes the drug. He knows the effect that it has. And he's making the choice to stay with that. "There's a way in which the culture kind of excuses him — actually idolizes him — for his use of violence," Bathrick continued. "He's not been required to look at himself in the way he uses his power, particularly in terms of this relationship." Bathrick said in 75 percent of domestic violence cases resulting in death, the victim was threatening to leave. Benoit will have a private service in Alberta, Canada, in his hometown of Ardrossan, where his parents and ex-wife and two children live. A memorial service for Nancy Benoit and Daniel is scheduled for July 14 in Daytona Beach, Fla., where her parents, Maureen and Paul Toffoloni, live. -
Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released
Perfection replied to Human Fly's topic in The WWE Folder
It has been some of the absolute worse reporting I have ever seen. It makes you wonder just how many other stories are filled with half truths, lies, and completely wrong information. I would guess a lot. It certainly has been maddening and hard to watch. All they are doing is misleading the general population as to what happened, or at least, what new news is coming up. There have been numerous people here at work who talk about Roid Rage and thats why he did it. Thats usually when I cut in, mention that nancy was planning on a divorce, Daniel's Fragile-X, GHB and the role it might have played, etc. Just a pain in the ass to hear these fucking idiots talk about it like they know everything. Shit, I don't know everything about what happened, but at least I'm doing my goddamn homwork on it before I shoot my mouth off. What kills me about it is there have been doctors on each network since this thing happened that have repeatedly said although roid rage might have had something to do with him killing nancy, it is extremely unlikely it had anything to do with the killing of his son or himself. Yet the headlines are all about the steroids and causing him to do all of it. I suppose its too complicated. Idiots. Mitchell over at pwtorch had in interesting item this morning. He also thinks its interesting (which I have mentioned in the raw thread) that they are pushing the most obvious roided up son of a bitch on the roster lashley first thing out of the gate after the benoit tragedy. Also interesting is the story about Kane being put in the main event. What does Vince McMahon think about changing the way he does business in light of the revelations in the mainstream media about wrestler deaths and drug use and yesterday’s indictment of Dr. Phil Astin, Chris Benoit’s doctor? Two telling moments as to McMahon’s mindset now came on WWE’s Monday Night Raw. The entire two hour show was built around the issue of who would receive the main event title shot against champion John Cena on the July 22nd Great American Bash pay-per-show. That lucrative (in real life) main event went to Bobby Lashley, who previously was promoted at Wrestlemania with a high profile alliance with Donald Trump. Lashley is the most freakishly muscled performer to enter World Wrestling Entertainment in several years. The second biggest reveal on the show was the video revealing and promoting the return of Triple H, McMahon’s son in law to WWE programming. Triple H, a body building enthusiast, is also one of the most heavily muscled performers in the genre. An interesting decision was also revealed during the Smackdown portion of the WWE television taping. WWE performer Kane was given the other main event title slot on the Great American Bash show. That’s a change from McMahon’s previous plans. According to reports in the Wrestling Observer written before the Benoit suicide/double homicide WWE Creative originally planned for Rey Mysterio Jr. to make his own return from injury on that show, which takes place in his home area of San Jose, California. Rey Mysterio’s real name is Oscar Guttierrez. The seven-count indictment of Chris Benoit’s physician Dr. Phil Astin, unveiled Monday, said Astin dispensed drugs including Percocet, Xanax, Lorcet, and Vicoprofen between April 2004 and September 2005. The recipients were identified in the indictment by the initials O.G. and M.J. There is no corroboration at this time that “O. G.” is actually Guttierrez. (There is also none that it’s not.) It’s possible that “O. G.” isn’t a pro wrestler at all. Still, the decision to remove Mysterio from the main event, and to focus Raw around the heavily muscled Lashley, should raise eyebrows among anyone following this story closely and may be telling as to any changes Vince McMahon may or may not makie in how he conducts his business. -
If I'm not mistaken the last time they did the beat the clock stipulation, if a person lost to someone in their match, the person that beat him would replace him. I knew as soon as that wasn't mentioned someone would lose.
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Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released
Perfection replied to Human Fly's topic in The WWE Folder
It has been some of the absolute worse reporting I have ever seen. It makes you wonder just how many other stories are filled with half truths, lies, and completely wrong information. I would guess a lot. It certainly has been maddening and hard to watch. -
Just rename it the Cena heavyweight championship.
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You have to laugh at Mcmahon pushing the most roided up person on the roster when the media has been doing nothing but talking about steroids for the past week.
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If lashley gets more cheers than Cena, then you know its time for them to do something with the stale as a year old loaf of bread cena.
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ladies and germs meet the poster child to steroid use in the wwe...lashley! ugh..
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I think Carlito was fighting not trying to laugh there.
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Nothing like going from MITB winner to losing your first match back in under 30 seconds or whatever it was
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lol...must have had a bad muscle spaz.
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Out of all the people tonight, he by far had the least amount of crowd reaction. The guy just isn't over in the least....so of course he will get the title shot....and fall at the feet of the almighty fucking king kong killer cena. sigh...
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WWE General Discussion for July 2007
Perfection replied to Hunter's Torn Quad's topic in The WWE Folder
I've been wondering if its against the law for anyone but cena to have the damn title. -
A ric flair/finlay fued? cool
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Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released
Perfection replied to Human Fly's topic in The WWE Folder
They've never been under the spotlight as part of a double murder/suicide investigation before, with the media looking to pin it on 'roid rage'. On it's own, no, wrestlers being on steroids isn't a big deal as far as it being news, but when you've got a major ongoing story like a double murder/suicide, then WWE trying to play down the role of steroids in a manner which can only highlight how poor their testing policy actually is, it doesn't exactly make them look good to a public who already have a low opinion of them to begin with. I think it reflects more on how tolerant the wwe is of people being on steroids. I mean the test results from what I understand can come strongly positive but if there is a "slight" improvement the next round, no action is taken. WWE not only look like fools here after saying "it couldnt possibly be steroids" and "we test we test!", they look like a company which even promotes the use of steriods because they know they are being taken yet don't immediately hammer someone with a suspension or heavy fine. They allow it to happen because of the stupid idea Mcmahon has that wrestlers have to be certain sizes for people to give a damn about them. Benoit being prescribed all these steroids blows the wwe position out of the water in every possible way. It really is amazing to me how someone as smart as Mcmahon is suppose to be would even allow himself to be put into this position because it was bound to happen sooner or later. Maybe not in this fashion but eventually he HAD to know the real truth to what goes on would surface in a big way. Not to mention the fact that I feel Mcmahon is much more responsible for all these drug problems than he has ever been taken to task for. Although Benoit is responsible for what he did, Mcmahon is responsible for creating and allowing an environment where steroid use was allowed to go on or even encouraged . I don't give a damn what his wellness policy says, Mcmahon loves his jacked up musclehead stars and everyone knows it.