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So 9 letters out of 140,000 obviously are an accurate judge of the whole. Thank you very much. Anyone can make a point. It's not that hard. But putting something behind that point is what really matters. Just because he has a few letters means shit; you need more than a hundred disgruntled GIs to really get noticed. We are talking 140,000 people here (I'm hammering this point down. That's around .07 of a percent of the entire force in Iraq. Frankly, I doubt that they are the true indicator of what's really going over there. And it'd be funny if he did get reemed out by a judge for bribery of voters. I'd laugh my ass off at that. It means shit to you that anybody would have something bad to say about the war as it is. Sorry but it means something to me, cuz I support ALL the troops regardless of the conditions and opinion. You don't see anybody questioning the validity of the letters that are PRO this war do you? They get their turn too. So chill the fuck out. Its even funnier that the Michigan republicans are gonna make a stink over this considering what he was "bribing" them with. It's not like its lobbyist money. Its UNDERWEAR AND NOODLES! Go ahead make a big deal about this. I dare you.

I don't think it's that the letters are fake. It's just that, well, 9 people out of 140,000 doesn't give us an accurate sentiment of the troops over there. Especially ones who want to send letters to Michael Moore. I would, though, like to see their authenticity proven. I wouldn't put it past Moore to make up a few of them. So it's just an assumption then. Ok, you don't trust Moore. Fine. It doesn't mean its ONLY 9. Thats an assumption too. There ARE alot of people who are against this war, world over. IS it so hard to imagine that some of them might be IN the military? Of course not. We'd solve this by getting some kind of poll, but from the military? Good luck.

Who said these letters were fake?

Awww, but its so much fun being a smart-ass prick! C'mon it's funny!

Too fucking funny! Sorry C-bacon. Wednesday, October 6th, 2004 Republicans, Out of Ideas, Ask Prosecutors to Arrest Michael Moore 10/6/04 Dear Friends, You may have heard by now that the Michigan Republican Party has called for my arrest. That's right. They literally want me brought up on charges -- and hope that I'm locked up. No, I'm not kidding. The Republican Party, yesterday, filed a criminal complaint with the prosecutors in each of the counties where I spoke last week in Michigan. My crime? Clean underwear for anyone who will vote in the upcoming election. Each night on our 60-city "Slacker Uprising Tour" through the 20 battleground states, I've been registering hundreds (and on some nights, thousands) of voters at my arena and stadium events. I then ask for everyone over 23 who has never voted (or didn't vote in the last election) to stand up. I tell these slackers that I understand and respect why they think politicians are not worth the bother. I tell them that I may have been the original slacker, and that I do not want them to change their slacker ways. Keep sleeping 'til noon! Keep drinking beer! Stay on the sofa and watch as much TV as possible! But, please, just for me, on 11/2, I want you to leave the house and give voting a try -- just this once. The stakes this time are just too high. If they promise me that they'll do this, I give the guys a 3-pack of new Fruit of the Loom underwear, and the women get a day's supply of Ramen noodles, the sustenance of slackers everywhere. I then close by having them repeat the 2004 Slacker Oath: "Pick nose! Pick BUTT! Pick Kerry." It seems to have worked, as each night the volunteer tables are swamped afterwards with hundreds of new and young voters signing up to campaign for regime change for the next four weeks. The satire of all this seems to have been lost on the Republicans. Or maybe it hasn't. The state of Michigan (where we spent most of last week) reported that over 100,000 young people recently registered to vote, a record that no one saw coming. The Slacker Tour has turned into a huge steamroller with a momentum all its own. So, the Republican Party, to show their gratitude that so many young people will now be involved in our system, has demanded that I be sent to jail for trying to "bribe" students to vote. Of course, this would be quite laughable if they weren't so serious about their charges. But they are. I may soon be a wanted man in Michigan -- simply because I convinced a few slackers to change their underwear and eat a healthy meal of artificially flavored noodles. I thought I'd seen it all this year -- Disney refusing to distribute the film they paid for, right-wingers harassing theater owners who showed "Fahrenheit 9/11," conservative action groups trying to get the FEC to kick our film ads off the air, the unnecessary restrictive R-rating that forced teenagers to sneak in to see it, and all the stupid, crazy attacks on me and my movie that I've had to listen to as I watched the public ignore them and pack the movie houses anyway, where my film was being shown. And when all that failed, five different Republican groups made five different attack dog tapes (oops, "documentaries"!) against me in a period of about six weeks. But they were all so bad, so boring, so right-wing, no one wanted to watch them and they too went away, a sad waste of good videotape. Now, after enduring all this, with no tricks left in their bag, they've just decided, "Let's toss his sorry ass behind bars -- him and his noodles and his gift of clean underwear!" My friends, they will not catch me. Though I may be on the run, and I may never be able to return home to my beloved Michigan, I make this solemn vow to you and yours: The slackers of America shall not be denied their noodles, they will proudly wear their clean underwear as free Americans, and they will vote Bush out of office come November 2nd (though they will not show up to the polls until well after noon)! Stay strong, stay slacker, and please remember to turn the underwear inside out every three days. As for the noodles, add boiling water, stir. Yours, Michael Moore [email protected] www.michaelmoore.com P.S. My favorite moment of the VP debate: Cheney saying to the moderator that this was the first he heard that that many black women in America had AIDS. Clueless. Cheney, for an entire 90-minutes, only mentioned Bush's name -- that's his running mate, the "president" -- once. They should have called this the "President (Cheney) -- Vice President (Edwards) Debate." P.P.S. Tomorrow's letter, as promised for today, will be about my new book, "Will They Ever Trust Us Again?: Letters from the War Zone." And thanks, everyone, for sending "Fahrenheit 9/11" on its first day to #1 on Amazon. If you find that your store didn't order enough copies, or to report other problems, please e-mail Sony Home video at [email protected].

Rather than start a new thread I'll throw our conservative friends here a bone with this lil ditty. http://pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review...n/s_258880.html Michigan GOP says Moore's vote offers illegal By The Associated Press Wednesday, October 6, 2004 LANSING, Mich. -- Republicans say filmmaker Michael Moore should be prosecuted for offering underwear, potato chips and Ramen noodles to college students in exchange for their promise to vote. The Michigan Republican Party has asked four county prosecutors to file charges against Moore, charging that his get-out-the-vote stunt amounts to bribery. "We want everyone to participate in this year's election, but not because they were bribed or coerced by the likes of Michael Moore," said Greg McNeilly, executive director of the state Republican Party. Moore, a Michigan native, is touring the country and imploring "slackers" who usually don't vote to head to the polls this year, saying they could make the difference in the presidential race. Moore has made stops at three Michigan universities as part of a 60-city pre-election tour. During each program, habitual nonvoters are invited on stage to pledge to vote. First-time student voters are offered gag prizes such as clean underwear. The GOP said Moore also offered students a clean dorm room, a year's supply of Tostitos and a package of Ramen noodles. The GOP said it asked the prosecutors to charge Moore, a John Kerry supporter, with violating Michigan's election law, which prohibits a person from contracting with another for something of value in exchange for agreeing to vote. Maria Miller, a spokeswoman for the Wayne County prosecutor's office, refused to comment on the matter. Calls to Moore and the other prosecutors weren't immediately returned Tuesday. My god he is bribing those potheads with FOOD and underwear! He should have tried beer.

I love how Al Gore being present suddenly makes everything Bush says equal and fair. It was a STUPID thing for him to say... that is in FRONT of camera! It exposes high ranking officials for what they are and insults the poor and working class. Cry, BITCH, and moan, all you want Mikey but holding editing choices against Moore makes YOUR arguement SUBJECTIVE OPINION, NOT FACT!!! Its called a persuasive arguement dolt. An effective one at that. If he continues to pimp his books etc. to the masses a conservative like yourself should be applauding him for working and staying off welfare. C'mon sweetheart, it wasn't FOR you. If these letters piss you off, WHO is the one getting all bent out of shape so easily? I figure since your so hardline if these letters were proven to YOU to be real, it would piss you off even more. Now I will click Powerplays link to see yet moe disputes against Moores films, cuz in spite of what you might think I will always listen to what the opposing side has to say.

Yeah, *I* guess it is.

What? You don't support the troops???? Play a violin??? Thats not very conservative!

Yeah, but you still get to be wrong.

Nope, so far no bitching. I saw "Outfoxed" today though. No Mike Moore to be seen. Telling stuff. I'll still watch Fox News tho, it makes me laugh. Shep Smith and his plastic head bring the hilarity.

Yes, because if you aren't voting for Bush, you MUST BE a Kerry supporter. Oh I also happened to think Kerry performed better in his debate, so I guess I am voting for Kerry. I have stated it several times already, please let this be the last. And where exactly do you think Kerry's getting his most support, from actual KERRY SUPPORTERS? Hell most would vote for Nader or Badnarik but 'don't think their vote would do any good' or 'it doesn't get Bush out of office'. Which is really stupid if you think about it because A)if enough people voted for indy candidate A not only might he get more than 10% of the vote but might seriously threaten and B)you're just setting yourself up to do this all over again in four years anyway when Kerry isn't 'The People's Choice' like all his 'supporters' think he is. But that is what it is nonetheless. Naw, its got nothing to do with my thinking that he isn't the right guy for the job. I haven't even given ANY thought to any of this. Quit talking like you know me.

Hm... I dunno, anyone remember something called the Marshall Plan? I could have sworn it involved rebuilding France or something. Oh well. I guess a statue is obviously so much better than, well, being saved from occupation twice and having your country rebuilt twice. Yeah, and I said that because Greatone wanted to know when we if ever have gotten along with the french. Read the thread. Pay attention.

Jeez, perhaps we should also adopt the Clinton Terrorist policy. Oh wait, we saw how that worked out. Seriously, your own candidate says Saddam was a threat. Please, if he was a threat, explain to me why we should have left him alone? And, oddly enough, I doubt that Cheney and Bush I thought that Saddam would still be in power 10 years later. I am not voting for him either. "MY" candidate. Pfft.

^ Ahh the old fortune cookie game. I know it well.

What more needs to be said? -=Mike can't I be fucking horrible AND fucking handsome?

Hey, I heard Fox News said John Kerry was french!!! Bug his phone too!

I mistakingly thought the REPUBLICANS would support a policy they supported in the 1990s. "The question in my mind is how many additional American casualties is Saddam worth?... And the answer is not very damned many. So I think we got it right, both when we decided to expel him from Kuwait, but also when the president made the decision that we'd achieved our objectives and we were not going to go get bogged down in the problems of trying to take over and govern Iraq.... All of a sudden you've got a battle you're fighting in a major built-up city, a lot of civilians are around, significant limitations on our ability to use our most effective technologies and techniques.... Once we had rounded him up and gotten rid of his government, then the question is what do you put in its place? You know, you then have accepted the responsibility for governing Iraq.... Now what kind of government are you going to establish? Is it going to be a Kurdish government, or a Shi'ia government, or a Sunni government, or maybe a government based on the old Baathist Party, or some mixture thereof? You will have, I think by that time, lost the support of the Arab coalition that was so crucial to our operations over there." -Dick Cheney, speaking about the Gulf War in 1992

I seem to remember they gave us some kind of gift awhile back. A statue or something? Oh sure it WAS a long time ago if you wanna split hairs....

Do you KNOW what American policy was on Iraq even before Bush came in? Christ this 'Decry Bush and those who support him' witchhunt is getting to PTC vs. Vince McMahon levels. Get your facts straight. enlighten me...... Oooh this should be... "good". The floor is yours greatone.

and?

He spent hours making that thread. I spent 2 minutes mocking him for having nothing better to do. Yup, that was an "ass-kicking". -=Mik I know its sarcasm, but its as close to reality as Mike is gonna get. Lets all bloviate!

Reality is SO much harsher than "they died for a mistake", right? At the risk of being mean --- THEY VOLUNTEERED FOR THIS. They KNEW this was a possibility when they VOLUNTEERED. They were not drafted. They were not forced. They CHOSE to do it. Like it or not, none of your whining and crying can change that one little KEY FACT IN ALL OF THIS. Sorry, I want a President who actually worries about what America needs. That's just me, though. -=Mike When they VOLUNTEER each and every person take it on.... oh whats it called? FAITH? That they won't be sent to die for false reasons be them manifest or manufactured. It is what I continue to expect regardless of the party affiliation of those holding office. The soldiers are Americans too, and they have needs as well, like not being put in danger due to false information. Will the president ignore the needs of those americans? Or are they to be treated like a voiceless minority? If they protest, as I have heard there are plenty who are voicing their dissatisfaction, are they monkeys too cuz you'll think it supports terror? If by whining and crying you mean protest and volunteer work? Then in fact it may just change things for the better. Maybe just not to your liking.

1000+ over two years. Or in historical terms, one of the lowest casualty rates in recorded history. But, the left lost their heart when they sold their soul to the anti-war groups in the 60's. -=Mike Over two years? Hey, maybe Bush could use that kind of reasoning in ads telling us why we should elect him president again. It'd be a surefire vote getter! In other words... still not good enough. Better yet, tell it to the soldiers parents. How about their kids? Or their friends? Sold out? Pfft. It takes a big heart to admit when you are wrong. Politics, in contrast, dictates that things always keep and consistant image that things are good and always have been. I wonder which path the president will choose? Who is selling out again?

Just more "I know you are but what I am I" crap from Mike. This thread is dead. Thanks CNS!