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  1. I mistakingly thought the REPUBLICANS would support a policy they supported in the 1990s.

     

     

     

     

    "The question in my mind is how many additional American casualties is Saddam worth?... And the answer is not very damned many. So I think we got it right, both when we decided to expel him from Kuwait, but also when the president made the decision that we'd achieved our objectives and we were not going to go get bogged down in the problems of trying to take over and govern Iraq.... All of a sudden you've got a battle you're fighting in a major built-up city, a lot of civilians are around, significant limitations on our ability to use our most effective technologies and techniques.... Once we had rounded him up and gotten rid of his government, then the question is what do you put in its place? You know, you then have accepted the responsibility for governing Iraq.... Now what kind of government are you going to establish? Is it going to be a Kurdish government, or a Shi'ia government, or a Sunni government, or maybe a government based on the old Baathist Party, or some mixture thereof? You will have, I think by that time, lost the support of the Arab coalition that was so crucial to our operations over there."

     

    -Dick Cheney, speaking about the Gulf War in 1992


  2. That sounds like spin hot off the Hannity Press.  I have clearly pointed out the manipulation tactics only for you to come back with, "oh he was just explaining two different problems" Problem is, there was no reason to even be mentioning Iraq at all whatsoever, period. If so, then Bush and co. should have been long at work on selling us on them before 9/11 even happened, but I suppose you are going to reply to this with something as cliche as, "9/11 changed everything"

    Do you KNOW what American policy was on Iraq even before Bush came in?

     

    Christ this 'Decry Bush and those who support him' witchhunt is getting to PTC vs. Vince McMahon levels. Get your facts straight.

    enlighten me......

    Oooh this should be... "good".

     

    The floor is yours greatone.


  3. Kudos Rob. You kicked Mike's ass on this one. Lets face it the guy is a moron. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. What a meanie he is!

     

     

    You are gonna need a much wider shovel to dig your sorry ass out of this one cupcake. I'd suggest using the one you shovel you bullshit with in the CE folder.

     

     

    Bitch.

     

     

    :throwup:

    He spent hours making that thread.

     

    I spent 2 minutes mocking him for having nothing better to do.

     

    Yup, that was an "ass-kicking".

    -=Mik

    I know its sarcasm, but its as close to reality as Mike is gonna get.

     

    Lets all bloviate!


  4. Over two years? Hey, maybe Bush could use that kind of reasoning in ads telling us why we should elect him president again. It'd be a surefire vote getter! In other words... still not good enough.

    Reality is SO much harsher than "they died for a mistake", right?

    Better yet, tell it to the soldiers parents. How about their kids? Or their friends?

    At the risk of being mean --- THEY VOLUNTEERED FOR THIS. They KNEW this was a possibility when they VOLUNTEERED.

     

    They were not drafted. They were not forced. They CHOSE to do it. Like it or not, none of your whining and crying can change that one little KEY FACT IN ALL OF THIS.

    Sold out? Pfft. It takes a big heart to admit when you are wrong. Politics, in contrast, dictates that things always keep and consistant image that things are good and always have been. I wonder which path the president will choose? Who is selling out again?

    Sorry, I want a President who actually worries about what America needs.

     

    That's just me, though.

    -=Mike

    When they VOLUNTEER each and every person take it on.... oh whats it called? FAITH? That they won't be sent to die for false reasons be them manifest or manufactured. It is what I continue to expect regardless of the party affiliation of those holding office. The soldiers are Americans too, and they have needs as well, like not being put in danger due to false information. Will the president ignore the needs of those americans? Or are they to be treated like a voiceless minority? If they protest, as I have heard there are plenty who are voicing their dissatisfaction, are they monkeys too cuz you'll think it supports terror?

     

    If by whining and crying you mean protest and volunteer work? Then in fact it may just change things for the better. Maybe just not to your liking.


  5. At least not good enough to send a 1000 plus americans to their deaths.

    1000+ over two years.

     

    Or in historical terms, one of the lowest casualty rates in recorded history.

     

    But, the left lost their heart when they sold their soul to the anti-war groups in the 60's.

    -=Mike

    Over two years? Hey, maybe Bush could use that kind of reasoning in ads telling us why we should elect him president again. It'd be a surefire vote getter! In other words... still not good enough.

     

     

    Better yet, tell it to the soldiers parents. How about their kids? Or their friends?

     

     

    Sold out? Pfft. It takes a big heart to admit when you are wrong. Politics, in contrast, dictates that things always keep and consistant image that things are good and always have been. I wonder which path the president will choose? Who is selling out again?


  6. Good Lord :ph34r:

     

    Sracasm 101 - Black babies, Book Depositories, Governors Mansions, Grassy Knolls etc etc etc = SARCASM

     

    Thems is jokes, duders.

    No offense, but they aren't very good jokes. They aren't clever jabs at Bush anymore (if they ever were), they are just irrtating crap. And it does sound like whiny crap when you continually use it as though you are making a point.

     

    But, in your defense, I think Cheesala is the one who has used the Hitler quotes and such, not you. And you never said anything like that about 9/11 to my knowledge, and I've been here a while.

    Here ya go greatone. ^ That is why i brought it up. Powerplay made reference to my sig. in THIS THREAD. Consider it explained. I was gonna change it but the Cheney quote is too long.

     

    Resume flip-flopping discussion.


  7. Marriage has had a ~50% failure rate for some time now.  The sanctity is long over.

    But what were the rates before "no-fault divorce" took off back in the 60's?

     

    Making a problem worse is not in our best interests.

    -=Mike

    Look, you can't regualte every behavior! It just can't be enforced. What do you want? Some cop to write someone a ticket for "doing it in the naughty place?" (Bill Maher)

     

    C'mon! Do yourself a favor and look the other way.


  8. Kudos Rob. You kicked Mike's ass on this one. Lets face it the guy is a moron. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. What a meanie he is!

     

     

    You are gonna need a much wider shovel to dig your sorry ass out of this one cupcake. I'd suggest using the one you shovel you bullshit with in the CE folder.

     

     

    Bitch.

     

     

    :throwup:


  9. I'm so glad now I got out when I did.

     

     

    Sp-1 - You are right in that there are alot of people to blame for the mess this has become. Seriously though, what could ANYBODY do over there to make something like this work? Nobody! Which is another great reason for not going over there in the first place. If we leave now, we have made another mortal enemy when people die due to all the infighting that will happen 10 minutes after we are gone. If we stay we risk more collateral damage (which makes enemies) and more loss of lives of OUR soldiers! Even if we leave we risk Iraq going totally fundalmentalist like in IRAN and Afganistan. This is a huge blunder, no other way about it.

     

    This is why there is no hope with Bush. The same thing for John Kerry. Nothing either guy can or will do will solve this in any way resembling "victory". Now a whole shitload more of OUR soldiers will have to suffer for it. Flame me all you like (Mike, KKK etc.) but I have REASONS for being against this war. Forget oil, sweetheart deals, Micheal Moore, and put it all aside and this still doesn't qualify. Not when the cost is this high. The cost not just being in deaths, but is so many more ruined lives. No, no thanks.


  10. Don't like THAT quote? How about THIS one.

     

     

    "The question in my mind is how many additional American casualties is Saddam worth?... And the answer is not very damned many. So I think we got it right, both when we decided to expel him from Kuwait, but also when the president made the decision that we'd achieved our objectives and we were not going to go get bogged down in the problems of trying to take over and govern Iraq.... All of a sudden you've got a battle you're fighting in a major built-up city, a lot of civilians are around, significant limitations on our ability to use our most effective technologies and techniques.... Once we had rounded him up and gotten rid of his government, then the question is what do you put in its place? You know, you then have accepted the responsibility for governing Iraq.... Now what kind of government are you going to establish? Is it going to be a Kurdish government, or a Shi'ia government, or a Sunni government, or maybe a government based on the old Baathist Party, or some mixture thereof? You will have, I think by that time, lost the support of the Arab coalition that was so crucial to our operations over there."

     

    -Dick Cheney, speaking about the Gulf War in 1992

     

     

     

    I WAS going to use this quote in my sig, but its too long. Alas.


  11. LOOK closely at my sig. READ what it says. Yes, NOTE who says it. WHO does it sound JUST like? I'll give you a hint... think contemporary. At least people like that will never be able to attack my patriotism ever again and get away with it. Nor will they ever be able to guilt trip me into supporting wars by trying to make me feel "unamerican or treasonous".

     

     

    Nope, nowhere was Bush mentioned by name. Though if the shoe fits his followers...

     

    :gas:

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