Dr. Tyler; Captain America

Again, you're completely dodging the issue at hand because I used one bit of speculation (which isn't speculation at all, according to this AP article): So, you're assuming they just want an execution chamber so... Um... Their camp looks pretty? All of this has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the argument at hand, though. Your stupid, asinine stall tactic of attempting to get me off track, while annoying, will not succeed. My argument has nothing to do with the executions; it has everything to do with the fact that US CITIZENS have been taken down to Guantanamo and are being tried in front of MILITARY TRIBUNALS, not in front of a jury of their peers, and that is illegal and contrary to the US Constitution during a time of peace.

I meant the tribunal process in general, not necessarily the executions. Your nitpicking about little aspects of my rhetoric doesn't change the fact that US Citizens have been taken down to Guantanamo and been placed in containment as Enemy Combatants, and will be tried by a military tribunal, and not a jury of their peers.

Correct, but my argument wasn't an argument in favor of Moussaoui, it was an argument against the general use of Military Tribunals against US Citizens.

There's a problem here: these individuals have not been tried and convicted of anything.

I got hit by a virus through P2P last night. It scared the shit out of me, but it didn't do any real damage. Most AV software pick up viruses before they are even executed, so that's a help. Unless they figure out a way to put a virus into an MP3 (which is highly unlikely since MP3's are read, not executed), I doubt it'll be the downfall of P2P. I was just overzealous and was trying to download a program.

Here's your problem: I'm not arguing about trying foriegn nationals in front of tribunals. I'm arguing about the fact that US Citizens and people living legally within our borders are being sent down to Guantanamo to stand against a military tribunal when our court systems are perfectly sufficient. Milligan set the precedent that military tribunals are unnecessary and illegal except in cases of martial law. I'm not sure what you're arguing here. Executive orders can not overrule the Supreme Court, and therefore, the military tribunal process is entirely unnecessary when regarding suspects apprehended within the United States. When they're apprehended abroad and are citizens of other countries, sure. Go ahead and try them by military tribunal, it has nothing to do with our federal judiciary system. However, in the case of people apprehended that are LEGALLY WITHIN OUR BORDERS, the Constitution takes precedent here.

Stop downloading porn, mscache comes from that. It sounds like the virus corrupted your Windows, but that's a very broad guess. As per the CD drive problem, try going into your system folder and deleting the drive's drivers and rebooting. It might fix that.

One loss probably won't kill you, though. You could always pick up a mediocre roster plug for that week.

Why would you even bother? Henry is a fine back; unless your team has some other deficiency, don't put him up for a trade.

Eh... I wouldn't take it.

C's with 1420 SATs. Hey, it balanced out.

Small posts > Big ones.

Eh, whatever. I still made a valid point, even if no one will read it.

Did you even read my fucking post?

Fuck yes. In Moussaoui's case, he's obviously guilty of something, but they prosecutors are trying him for the wrong reasons. If his defense is as you've said, than he's likely guilty of conspiracy to commit murder or whatever. However, in the case of general military tribunals, it was best stated in Ex Parte Milligan (71 U.S. (4 Wall.) 2, 18 L.Ed. 281) (1866) by Justice David Davis in the majority opinion: "The Constitution of the United States is a law for rulers and people, equally in war and in peace, and covers with the shield of its protection all classes of men, at all times, and under all circumstances. No doctrine involving more pernicious consequences was ever intended by the wit of man than that any of its provisions can be suspended during any of the great exigencies of government. Such a doctrine leads directly to anarchy or despotism, but the theory of necessity on which it is based is false; for the government, within the Constitution, has all the powers granted to it which are necessary to preserve its existence; as has been happily proved by the result of the great effort to throw off its just authority." The argument in Milligan, made by the majority, is that when the court system is functional -- that is, the United States is not in a state of anarchy -- than military tribunals should NOT be used. In most of these military tribunals, citizens of the United States are being tried and, by some reports, executed without the benefit of a trial by a jury of their peers that is afforded to them by the United States Constitution. That is beyond wrong, regardless of the flippant naming of them as "enemy combatants." Moussaoui is guilty of conspiring to commit an act of terror, and he will likely be found as such. However, military tribunals are NOT the answer, and condoning them is condoning the destruction of the United States Constitution. Why not just move to Europe?

Kazaa lite still works fine for me.

http://download.com.com/3000-2144-10194058...tml?tag=lst-0-1 Try that.

Don't worry, the Steelers always play like shit in week one. Boller will be fine.

By the way, this isn't going to be held in an American court, so the assertation that "it wouldn't hold up in a court" isn't exactly true.

*I'm NOT anti-Semetic!* Lord almighty. The comment was because I've heard a lot of tasteless holocaust jokes, not because I agree with them or condone them.

Source please.

~!

...*resists bad holocaust joke*

I wonder how they'll fit them all in one courtroom.

Oh, okay.