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I just want to say one thing, and one thing only... ...tonights HHH vs. HBK match, it's the exact reason why I'm still, and forever will be, a Pro. Wrestling fan. That is all.

Thank God someone else looked at The Hulk with an open mind.

It would have been a nice little cap off to eight months of hell if Foley hired test and Steiner back as Stacy's slaves. Let that go like two weeks and then have Stacy get her ultimate revenge and end it all, never to be mentioned again. I'd rather them just end it out of nowhere than have them be Stacey's slaves or something. Ugh, just thinking of what they would put on RAW makes me sick.

I'm shocked you still have ANY hope/faith left.

Thus being the most pointless program of 2003. I can't remember an angle that went on and on and on as that one, and ended with basicly no actual ending worth the time they spent on it. Then again, it was the sort of thing that they allowed to go on for so long, there wasn't anything they could do with it in the end...so they just drop it and move on. Stacey is free to do whatever the hell she wants, and Test/Steiner are now best of friends in their tag team for some damn reason. That angle even gave ME a headache.

No, I get exactly what you are saying, I just hadn't looked at it like that until now. When I stand back and look at everything, I don't really take shit like Kane/HHH and Al Wilson seriously. It was just there, blah. So yeah, when they fuck up something with potential like Angle/Brock, etc... it's a lot worse. What ills me, is that we will more than likely never see Angle/Brock reach the true potential that they had, what with the news with Angle lately. Even if that wasn't going around, we still more than like would never see what could have, what should have been.

Was ANYTHING worse than Brock/Angle to you then, overall? I'd like to see Dames, or whoever, try to keep up with something for an entire year. That would be good fun in itself.

VPW2 is, without a doubt in my mind, better than No Mercy or WrestleMania 2000. It's the king of that sort of setup, period. It just feels so much smoother than the others, you can have long ass classic Puroresu matches in the very same style and everything, it just feels perfectly like the real thing, what with how the matches progress and all of the moves in the game. Not to mention the CAW in the game. The shoot fighting is fun as hell once you master it also, it's like two games in one, and when it comes down to it, that's just what it is. It's in my top three favorite wrestling games, all of which are Japanese imports btw, heh. Once upon a time, the game went for quite cheap on eBay for a while, but I just noticed that it's selling for a good deal there once again. A few months ago, I saw it going for less than $20, but it's back up now. Other than eBay, I don't know where you could get it for a really good price, other than just finding someone who is willing to sell it to you. Try the following perhaps... GameTZ.com TradeGamesNow.com

What does the winner get?

Hush you two, I am not in the mood to think about all of that tonight. Wasn't it at least better than Al Wilson? If not him as a whole, was it not better than his...wood?

Well, it was better than simulated sex with dead people.

My God, is the world running out of "news" reports? Whoever thought it was worth the time reporting THIS should be fired right here and now.

I'm glad that Nathan Jones up and quit by the way. Even I finally gave up hope on him, heh.

I wish the fuck you would.

Not hardly. It brought in $132,177,234 and cost $137 million for producing and $35 million for marketing. Of course, it seems as if few films really MAKE money these days.

Ok, my posting this stems from watching a few older shows earlier this evening. It just makes me smile when I see the fans out in the crowd being active for the entire show, feeling that the matches could end at any second, believing that this just MIGHT be an upset, and basicly being on the edge of their seat move for move. Then once a big spot happened, and someone won (sometimes for any match, no matter who was in there) they just go totally insane. I loved how the guys in the booth actually preseneted their work as if each match truly matterd, that the heels were TRULY bad guys, and that the faces were there to save the day. Ok, so I'm old fashioned, so sue me. Still, could those days happen today? Had the business not been exposed as it was over the years, could we still have the same type of experiance. Would it be so bad if in interviews the boys didn't totally break character? Would it be so bad if the commentators actually sold it more so like it was real? I know that it's just about impossible to go back to those days now, but "what if". What if it remained as it was. Could that have even been possible? With the culture we live in right now, would it actually have a chance to remain? Or was what happened, turning it into "Sports Entertainment" actually required to keep the industry alive for the most part? Could the fans have continued to truly believe in heros and despise the heels. Not because they just like them, but because they truly BELIEVED in what they were seeing. I'm not saying actually believe that EVERYTHING was 100% real, just...be able to suspend their belief more than we see today. I wish that it could have continued, but the more I think about it, the less I actually think it could've been possible. I'm not saying that everyone would believe it's real and we live in the land of happy and glad. Just, you know...if it was presented more as it was back in the day. Thoughts? Sincerely, ...Downhome...

I'll bet anyone ANYTHING that the cops did that to Jackson, those racist money hungry bastards.

I've already said that they fucked Goldberg over from the very begining. They started him out on the wrong foot, it was very hard for him to EVER recover from how they first treated him and what they did with him to start with. I'm surprised they finally attempted, even if for a short while, to push him more like Goldberg. They way he started his WWE career, it was more like he was a total outsider to WWE, to everyone in the company, and to the fans. What they should have done is started off slow with him, going against lower card guys (not all of them, just a few basic programs), in order to show to the WWE fans that he was not an outsider, he was now a part of the company, and for them to shed away the image they forced upon him for so many years before. But no, they put him in there with Mr. Rocky, WWE superstar of all time. Yeah, that was just going to work. They are either fucking retarded, or they wanted Goldberg to be humbled at the start of his WWE tenure.

Having The Rock vs. just about anyone else in the WORLD, is going to end up not working right if the guy you have going up against The Rock is a face. I can't see how anyone could think that The Rock vs. Goldberg was the right program to have Goldberg to work the very first thing in WWE. You had The Rock, long time WWE superstar, over as hell as either a face and a heel who can be cheered at ANY moment, taking on Goldberg, the WWE outsider, the guy from WCW who had always been talked about in a very bad light in WWE before he became a part of them. That was the worst idea that they could have come up with for Goldberg to do VERY FIRST THING. I don't think anyone here, or anywhere, expected him to actuall get cheered OVER WWE's boy, Rocky...even as a "heel".

Very few times have I read a post on a message board by someone that made me just want to go "Hell yeah, right fucking on.", but Cancer Marney just added to that short list.

I'm not going to turn this into a Goldberg thread, yet again, just because some hate him so much they feel they must shout it out at every chance given to them. I'll just say, as I've said all along, that from day one WWE did not give him the right program to work with. It's not just him either, it's just about everyone else in the federation. If the workers aren't inserted into a program that any amount of thought went into, then they are instantly screwed right then and there. I could start listing mistake after mistake that WWE made this year, not only with the direction with Goldberg, but most everyone else.

I can't believe that Mark Geragos went along with Jackson doing this.

Really? Do tell. I don't have this belief. Same here, I'm actually more worried about him now that he's on RAW.

It's just making me want to kick him in his nuts. Seriously. Over and over and over again.

To be fair, he also failed them. In what way exactly?