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Hush! Allow me to hold onto the hope that RVD gets Shane's posistion! You are right though, and we all know it RVD will play the oh so popular WWE game... ...PLAY THE PAWN!

I'm looking forward to that match. I just hope it doesn't blow ass. What I'm hoping for, is that they have decided to insert RVD into the posistion of Shane, and have the feud now be RVD/Kane with Shane just being RVDs manager, as it SHOULD've been all along. What I fear, is that next week on RAW, it will just be RVD's turn to "play the pawn", just as it was Christian and Jericho's turn last week.

I wouldn't be suprised at all if they just had HHH beat Goldberg and if we never saw him again after that match.

I love the build also, but there's one vital flaw. This should have been built up, and promoted, MONTHS ago, and Goldberg should have won at SummerSlam.

Maybe this will mean that HHH and the World Title will get to sit out the next PPV, and he'll get to keep it even longer!

This thread, and others like it, is a good thing. In the past few years, when has there been another timer period that all of us have talked about and discusses the upcoming RAW and SD as we have been doing for the past few weeks?

Don't get me started.

Because they never know when they'll have teh chance to allow the non-workers to make the normal wrestlers look bad! The McMahons are always prepared for those sorts of moments.

I don't see anything different with Coach hardly at all. If this is his new "makeover", then what in the hell was the purpose?

How exactly is Coach different now?

Nothing can top Goodfellas on Lifetime!

Technically, that's not true.

If he wins it, he would be the perfect guy for RVD to go over for the title at Mania. Hey, I can dream. RVD going over? For a TITLE!? AT WRESTLEMANIA XX~!?

Ok, who here DIDN'T think that HHH would win the title back almost as soon as he lost it, only this time having a run as a face? Who here DIDN'T think that HHH would feud with Orton before the end of the year? Hell, who here DOESN'T think that it's quite possible that Orton will be the World Champion by the end of the year?

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How in the hell did this thread manage to get to two pages without anyone mentioning the "Sharpshooter" that Rocky does?

WWE has a show called Afterburn?

It may be true that he hasn't done hardly anything since "WHAT?!", but there is a hell of a lot of stuff that they have yet to cover concerning Austin on DVD. I think a new Austin DVD, full of both his WCW, ECW, AND WWE days is needed.

To start with, this bullshit with Coach is not, and WILL NOT, do anything at all to further any angle about a Pro. Wrestler. It's being done only to show that he is now a heel announcer, and it's being done for that reason alone. I love the fact they are trying to turn him heel and to freshen things up at the booth, but damnit to fuck... ...it should NOT be at the expense of the true talent on the show, PERIOD. As for the McMahon saga, if history has taught us anything, it's that their storylines are done ONLY to stroke the ego of that family. It's quite different right now, as it's a feud BETWEEN the family members, so no matter what happens, a McMahon will get the upper hand, not a true talent. The entire issue is that the focus isn't on the correct people in the company, the actual wrestlers. As for Shane/Kane, it damn well better end with Kane taking Shane out 100%, only for Shane to not be seen on TV for a VERY long time once again. I hope and I pray that they don't just ship Kane off to SD after what Shane did to him. It not only makes Kane look like the biggest pussy of all time, but it makes RVD (and anyone else that has went against Kane) look like shit, because when they couldn't take him out, Shane McMahon, once again a non-wrestler, got the job done. Again, this is just another example of the non-wrestlers being the focus and going over, while the actual wrestlers simply being used as worthless pawns. As for everything else, I'm like, the most positive guy here for the most part. I've forgiven WWE for just about everything, and I've NEVER (I'm dead serious, I mean never) missed a WWE show, ie RAW or Smackdown, since RAW began way back when. I also never missed a WCW show starting back before RAW started up. I'm die hard, and I have seen them through shit and thin. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that the non-wrestlers are dominating the show, and to take it further, to realize that this is WRONG, and should end ASAP. There is no right or wrong. There is only WRONG, and that one is on your side. Never before in Pro. Wrestling, has non-workers dominated the industry as they do so today, and that's all there is to it. With Dibase, and I assume you are talking about Money Inc., he was simply a manager and his wrestlers were the true focus. With Bobby Heenan, he was always made out to look like a chump and an ass, and was never made to look better than any actual talent. *ahem* Anyone remember him getting put into the weasle suit? I mean, I don't know what else to say, it's just how things are. Ever sine the Attitude era began, we've seen non-wrestlers be a main focus more than actual wrestlers, and it's never been more dominant than right now, especially on RAW. On Monday night, WWE gave us the perfect example of what Pro. Wrestling should not become, and what every promoter out there should strive to not allow happen. Well, it wasn't an example, as it actually happened, and that's what pisses me off the most. I'll continue to watch, I'll never give up, but I realize when things are really hurting, and like it or not, RAW was really hurting...especially if you love what really matters, the true workers of the industry, the Pro. Wrestlers.

If these screens don't get you excited, then I don't know what will!

I don't see how you can NOT talk about Memento and Following. I'd be all over that one if I had to write.

As far as I know, there is no footage of it at all. If there was, we'd all know about it for sure and it would be causing a huge stir.

The non-workers were the focal point of the three main angles/programs on RAW, and have been the focal point of various angles for the past few years. If they aren't dominating, then please tell me who is, especially on RAW. Vince, Linda, Shane, JR, Lawler, Coach, Bishoff, and Austin were ALL the focal point of RAW, each in their own different way, and in each case were using wrestlers as pawns. So please, tell me who was dominating. Hint: It wasn't the pawns, ie, the Pro. Wrestlers.

Your examples were wrong, and didn't have anything to do with what is happening today. If you have been a Pro. Wrestling fan for as long as you have been, then you would be able to cite an example if you could even come up with one, of what is happening today, ie, non-workers dominating the industry most of the time. The fact, is that it hasn't ever happened before, and the reason is simply that the McMahons have changed how this industry is presented. That doesn't make it right, as it is WRONG. The wrestlers should never play PAWN in any angle with non-workers, period. That is all there is to it. Pro. Wrestling isn't about the announcers, the managers, or the owners and GM's. It's about the wrestlers, and when ANY promoter forgets this, then they have lost their way. It's very noble of you to admit that you were wrong, that's all I wanted. Just, in the future, only claim something when you can back it up. That's all I, and others here, ask for.