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*still awaiting Johnson's examples to back up his bullshit*

*blank stare*

*still very very angry over RAW*

If you don't have the program, go to Soul Seek and download it. Go to the "Wrestling, SNL, etc..." room and just share what you have. Try not to share too many songs though, let's keep this mainly for Pro. Wrestling matches, SNL skits, other such video, and stuff like that. If you want you can share wrestling themes, I just want the basics to be easy to get to in the chat room. It's a great program, so if you have anything to share, lets get to it. It's, obviously, a chat room also so we can talk or something...no big whoop. Sincerely, ...Downhome...

I guess after the Kane/Bischoff match, since JR wouldn't press charges, Kane was off the hook. *blah* Reason number 939893794080098390 that the police, cops, or ANY law enforcement should never be involved in an angle in any shape or form.

Yes, Vince has been in a lot of them, that's the point. I'm still waiting for examples of non workers DOMINATING a program in the past, pre-attitude era. You say it's always been like this, and now, it's time for you to back up such an asinine statement. The FACT, is that this day and age is totally different, Pro. Wrestling has changed so much. I can understand that, but the non-workers dominating as they are is unexcusable.

What happened to the enterouge of police for Kane?

Please give examples, pre 1998, where a non-wrestler played such a major part in a storyline. Managers, announcers, owners, and anyone else without any wrestling skill should be used as enhancement talent. In no case, should any of these people be made to look good over a wrestler. There is nothing wrong with using one of these people to advance a storyline. For instance, wrestler A is feuding with wrestler B. Wrestler A beats up wrestler B's manager in a match/segment etc. Wrestler B then jumps wrestler A back. That's okay. The manager is being used to enhance the story. Non-wrestlers being made to look good over actual workers is a serious problem. I can think of very few moments in Pro. Wrestling history where non-workers pissed on the true workers, as much as tonight. Almost all of those moments were in WCW as well. Pre-1998, I don't think I can think of a single time.

All of the non-wrestler characters being the damn focal point, leading to the actual WRESTLERS, to be nothing more than pawns!

EXACTLY! And, like I said before, even the wrestlers that WERE showcased were not really being showcased. They were either simply a pawn for the non-wrestlers, or they got destroyed, ie, Kane. This was just one hell of a bad writing of RAW. Whoever wrote this show should be fired right now.

I love your willingness to not want to see what happened tonight, that's great. It was just so overcoming tonight that even I saw the bullshit going on. In EVER example I gave you, the wrestlers were being screwd. It wasn't "the non-wrestler contributing to a storyline of a wrestler", it was the other way around. The WRESTLERS were contributing to the storylines of non-wrestlers. First off, that HighLight Reel segment didn't even include a wrestler in the storyline, other than Jericho. Jericho was nothing more than a PAWN in the McMahon storyline, and ended up being a pawn once again in the main event. As I said, a wrestler contributing to a storyline for non-wrestlers. For the entire Coach deal, it's the exact same thing as above. This is a feud between Austin/King/JR and Coach/Bishoff. Out of all of these guys, NONE of them are a Pro. Wrestler character. The only wrestler involved was Christian, and just as Jericho, he was nothing more than a pawn in the storyline. As a matter of fact, there wasn't even a reason for him to be out there other than to just have a wrestler be there period. Once again, a wrestler contributing to a storyline for non-wrestlers. As for the main event, the match even included a non-wrestler. His opponent, Jericho, was once again a pawn in the storyline. Chris Jericho pulled double duty tonight, and I feel damn sorry for him. The focus wasn't on him, it was on the non-wrestler. When Kane came out, Shane followed him and we just forgot about Jericho. Damn to him says WWE! We follow Shane out to the back, and he pushes the damn MONSTER of Kane, the most dominating force on RAW, into a pit of fire. The show ENDED with a non-wrestler destroying a talent. In EACH instance, the focus was on the non-wrestlers, in EACH instance, it was a case of the wrestlers playing the pawn, contributing to the storylines which are focused on non-wrestlers. That's all I can really say, because quite simply, that's just the way it is.

Yes there always have been, you are exactly right. The difference between now and the glory years of Pro. Wrestling, is that they NEVER dominated as they are in this day and age. That's a fact. I wouldn't say "dominating". There are some non-wrestlers playing some major roles, but not to the extent to say they are dominating. At the half way point, one of the most importart parts of the entire show, we had a Highlight Reel. That's all fine and good, as it showcases Jericho. Wait, no, it doesn't. The guests on the show were not Pro. Wrestlers at all. We had Linda, Vince, and Shane. All three McMahons, all three taking part in an angle which serves no purpose at all. It's just, once again, the McMahons dominating TV time, period. They dominated one of the most important parts of the show, and in my eyes, the most important segment. We have an entire segment dedicated to Bishoff, Coach, and Austin. None of which are actual active Pro. Wrestlers. Then we have a match including Lawler, who is just another commentator on RAW. In the match, he dominated Christian, the IC champion, for the most part, and Christian was only able to pull out the victory when Coach, just another commentator, had to give him a helping hand, leading to a simple roll up. Once again, non-wrestlers dominating TV. Then the main event, we have Shane McMahon wrestling Chris Jericho. Chris Jericho is a Pro. Wrestler, one of the best in the business overall. In the match, we have Shane really taking it to Jericho, say what you will, but that doesn't please me. Not only did the match not have a finish, but it served no point but to further the Kane/Shane feud. Once again, a Pro. Wrestler is shit on in order to serve a purpose for just another one of thes McMahons, another one of these NON wrestlers, and no, Shane McMahon is NOT a wrestler. After that match "ended" we have something happen which never should have. We have Shane McMahon take out Kane. He didn't just take him out, oh no. He apparently killed him, and REALLY took him out. He tossed this so-called "monster" into a huge pit of fire, like it was nothing. As the show went off, we have a non wrestler standing over an actual performer in Kane, as he fell into a fire pit. Now how can you possibly say that they didn't dominate the show?

Yes there always have been, you are exactly right. The difference between now and the glory years of Pro. Wrestling, is that they NEVER dominated as they are in this day and age. That's a fact.

Here is the deal, it all has to do with the website FreeVideoGames.com if you must know, heh. I know a way on that site to order ANY video game for PS2, Xbox, or GameCube very cheaply. You guys can either go do it yourself, or I'll do it for you for $15. They are taking pre-orders on Raw II and Wrestlemania 19 also, if you want those. This is something like the free DVD site that I have shared here, only this is obviously for video games. Here is some more information and different prices, if you want ME to do the ordering for you... 1) If you want me to order you a brand new $50 game, I will charge you only $15 total. 2) If you want me to order you a brand new $40 game, I will charge you $10. 3) If you want me to order you a brand new $20 game or less, I will charge you $7. ...this isn't a scam or anything, and if you are doing the free DVD deal you know that. I only ask for money in exchange for my time and all of that. Besides, $15 for a brand new game is a hell of a deal if you ask me. I prefer to be paid with PayPal, but if you want to try something else that's fine also. I'll also consider trades and stuff like that. This is really only for those of you who don't want to take the risk of trying to do the website yourself, or those of you who do not have a CC. If you are at all interested, let me know. Also, they have video game systems if you care, but they I would charge you slightly more for those to get them for you. If you care to know more about that, let me know. Sincerely, ...Downhome...

Holy missing-the-sarcasm Batman... Holy missing-the-sarcasm Batman... (I hope.)

If this is a blueback, then it's exactly what happened to me. It started giving me the DRE for one or two of them, then eventually I couldn't play any bluebacks. If you call Sony, I forget the number but it's posted everywhere on GameFAQS, and then send it to them, they'll fix it for you at no charge. It took about two weeks for me, from the moment I sent it to them to the moment that I recieved it from them.

Is Madden a DVD or a CD? Blueback?

Goldust did predict a world title reign by himself remember now.

I saw the finish to Rocky/Austin coming a mile away, it was painfully obvious to me.

I saw the finish to Rocky/Austin coming a mile away, it was painfully obvious to me.

I saw the finish to Rocky/Austin coming a mile away, it was painfully obvious to me.

I would say that Austin Rock from X-7 was more "emotionally draining" than this. I'd say Hogan/Rocky.

Don't say that, DON'T SAY THAT! *covers ears* LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA

I told you it wouldn't be hard at all to get the fans either totally behind Goldberg overall, or at least behind him durring his matches. He just needs to be the total, take no shit, badass that we really haven't seen in WWE. Well, that is, untill tonight. If tomorrow night on RAW he doesn't totally go fucking ape shit over everyone in Evolution however, tonight meant nothing. They need to continue this, and make it clear as day that Goldberg wants to kill HHH, just to win that damn title.