I'm not the president of Pippen's fan club or anything, but Jesus, give me a break, you guys. Detlef Schrempf and Glen Rice? I'm a big fan of both those guys, but you've got to be shitting me if you honestly think Pippen ranks with those guys. I don't really like to dwell on personal achievements too much, but what was posted above really speaks for itself. Granted, I think some of the All-defensive berths really are given out on reputation after you've been selected two or three times, but Pippen is 5th all-time in steals, and with 25 more of them would be third. And the eight first-teams in a row, without looking it up, I believe is unmatched. And he *did* make the Bulls a threat the year after Jordan retired, but no one was going to overcome Stern's "I'LL GET THE KNICKS TO THE FINALS OR DIE TRYING" campaign in '94. I could very easily have bought them winning a fourth straight that year. Pippen is top 15 at the absolute lowest.