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  1. justcoz

    More comes from tonights tapings.....

    Did Cor Von have any connection to world reknowned WWE superstar Johnny Grunge? You all know Johnny Grunge, right? WWE legend. Let's see what WWE superstar Konnan has to say about Cor Von no showing tonight's ECW taping. I mean, Cor Von went from the elite, battling Jeff Jarrett, to a demotion pouncing Little Guido Nunzio.
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    Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released

    It's odd that the AP says that Chris Benoit tested negative for alcohol given the empty beer cans and wine bottle they found. Maybe Nancy was f'd up when Chris came home? Even moderate booze with painkillers and xanax can mess you up. For all we know she could have sedated Daniel with her own xanax since he was supposed to be hyperactive. We will never know. All we know is that his Benoit balls weren't McMahon-like grapefruits and he and his wife liked their vicodin and xanax.
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    Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released

    I believe tmz.com just used the standard WWE press release that they issued,
  4. justcoz

    Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released

    That's the smart buisness move at this point. Right, exactly what good would come out of them commenting on their mark website?
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    Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released

    But admit it... with the bottles in the house, etc. people were expecting a shitload of steroids to be in his system rather than the ONE THING that the doctor admitted to prescribing him for low testosterone levels.
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    Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released

    HIGHLIGHTS OF BENOIT FAMILY TOXICOLOGY PRESS CONFERENCE by Mike Johnson @ 3:14:34 PM on 7/17/2007 CREDIT pwinsider.com The Georgia Bureau of Investigations and the State's Chief Medical Examiner held a press conference this afternoon to disclose the results of the toxicology tests done on the bodies of Chris, Nancy and Daniel Benoit. Highlights from the conference: -Fayetteville Georgia District Attorney Scott Ballard stated that the investigation into the Benoit tragedy is still ongoing and as they continued to investigate, all aspects still lead them to believe it was a murder-suicide. He said that one aspect of the investigation is the toxicology reports. He thanked the G.B.I and their crime lab for all the investigation assistance. Ballard said they wouldn't answer questions regarding the crime scene and aspects of the investigation until they could discuss the entire investigation accurately. -Ballard turned it over to the GBI's Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Kris Sperry. -Sperry said that with Nancy Benoit had three drugs in her system - Hydrocodone (a prescribed pain reliever - Vicodin is considered Hydrocodone), Hydromorphone (which the body creates when Hydrocodone is broken down in the body) and Xanax. All of the drugs were at a therapeutic level, not a toxic level. Sperry said that the levels they found could have been affected by the decomposition of her body and that they may have been higher levels before she died. She had a blood alcohol level of 0.184, which could be clearly due to the decomposing of her body. -Daniel Benoit's blood was positive for Xanax. Sperry noted that Xanax was not a drug that would be given to a child under normal circumstances, so their belief is that Daniel was sedated at the time of his murder. -Chris Benoit's blood was positive for Hydrocodone and Xanax, both at levels within therapeutic range for normal usage of the drugs, not toxic or elevated usage. -Chris Benoit's urine was tested for the presence of steroids and the "only steroid drug that we found was testosterone, which was measured at the level of 207 micrograms per liter." He said that the level of led them to ascertain that Benoit had been using testosterone "at least in some reasonable period before the time that he died." -There were no other "steroids or artificial steroid-like drugs that were found in his urine." -There was no evidence of GHB in Nancy, Chris or Daniel Benoit. -When asked about how the testosterone level, Sperry said that they test urine to see what the levels were. They said the ratio of Testosterone to Epitestosterone was an indicator that he had been using it, "but how much, how often and for how long is something that cannot be answered through this." -When asked if the drug tests would shed any light on what happened that night in the Benoit home, Sperry said, "No, I would not say that they do. These results give answers as far as drug and medication usage. They do show that Daniel Benoit was sedated at the time he was murdered. beyond that, I don't think they reveal anything at all, other than the fact that Chris Benoit had been using at least testosterone for some period of time." -Daniel Benoit did not die of a drug overdose of Xanax based on the autopsy findings, which they did not discuss due to the ongoing investigation. There was never any indication that it was an overdose death. -When asked about how the drugs in Benoit's system may have affected his behavior, Sperry said there was no way to tell that at all. He said that the level of drugs in Chris Benoit's system were at therapeutic level for someone with pain and being prescribed them. Sperry said there are thousands of people walking around with the same levels in their system. Benoit wasn't at a toxic or overdose level. -In regard to whether testosterone creates mental disorders and outbursts of range, there are "conflicting data" as to whether that can be the case and "I think that's an unanswerable question." He said he was relying on the scientific date, which states that no one really knows. -Chris Benoit's abnormal range of ratio of Testosterone to Epitestosterone (10 times the normal range) shows Chris Benoit was injecting it but couldn't prove that led to changes in his behavior. When asked why, Sperry said the scientific data when individuals are given these drugs under monitored conditions, the ratio does not translate to something abnormal in that person's thought process or behavior. -When asked about needle marks found on Daniel Benoit's body and what the needle marks were from, Sperry said that they were not able to find what they were from. He said that they appeared to be needle marks, but they did not have enough urine specimen from Daniel to analyze for HGH or other growth hormones. -Sperry said there was nothing on [note from Mike: I believe Chris] Benoit's body that led Sperry to believe Benoit had been using needles for long periods of time. "I would say at this point and time that will never be known." -The levels of the drugs in Nancy Benoit's body were therapeutic, not at an extremely elevated or toxic range. Sperry did note that the decomposition of the body could lead to the levels being lower than they were at the time of death. He said that he knew that she had orthopedic surgeries in the past and wouldn't be shocked to see she was taking the drugs for pain and muscle spasms. -When asked if anything stands out as significant. Sperry said the Xanax in Daniel Benoit's blood was surprising. He said that beyond the testosterone, there was no finding of any other illegal type or anabolic steroids that are out there to be used. He said that the presence of the Testosterone could be an indication Benoit was being treated for testicular insufficiency [Note from Mike: Dr. Phil Astin had claimed shortly after the Benoit family was found that he was treating Benoit with Testosterone replacement therapy]. -When asked about the Fragile X rumors of Daniel Benoit, Sperry said that it was impossible to perform that type of chromosome analysis post-mortem. -When asked if he was given results of WWE's drug testing of Chris Benoit, Sperry said he hasn't seen the results and only knows about that from what he's seen on the news. He said he has no knowledge of what WWE tested for or what they look for. -Ballard was asked how the results help the investigation. Ballard said they are trying to decipher what happened in the home and this part of the investigation will help them put a complete picture in focus with other aspects of their investigation. -When asked about Daniel Benoit being sedated, Ballard said, "I could speculate but I'm not going to." -Ballard said that the level of cooperation in the investigation has been good and noted there have been some theories and emails they have gotten that they look into that haven't been so helpful. -Ballard declined to comment on what direction the investigation would take at this point. He said you want to try and re-create the who, what, why but he suspects many of the answers they may never learn. -Sperry said that the testing only gives the examiners a "snapshot" of what was in Benoit's body in the period before he died. He said that they found no evidence of any other drugs that would be used for bodybuilding purposes. He said that neither he nor anyone else can tell what Benoit used in the past. -Sperry said the most common usage of Testosterone injections would be to treat testicular inefficiency and there are thousands of men who use injections for the same reasons. -When asked about the effect of the drugs on Benoit's mental state, Sperry again pointed out that there is no scientific data that supports those theories. -Nancy Benoit's blood alcohol level would be legally drunk, although there's no way of saying how that factored into the deaths. It was also noted the alcohol level could have changed with the decomposition of the body. -Nancy Benoit's body had decomposed much more than Daniel or Chris, so she was murdered first.
  7. justcoz

    Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released

    Explain, what was he prescribed and what was in his system? I missed this.
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    Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released

    still doesn't mean shit in regard to the murder/suicide or the testing since it was prescribed for legitimate medical purposes. 40 year old men will need testosterone. Particularly if they abused steroids throughout their life.
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    Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released

    Hydrocodone = Vicodin. Testosterone is a steroid, you idiot, and his levels were elevated. My uncle is on testosterone. His Benoit balls weren't producing enough testosterone, probably from previous steroid abuse, Meltzer even said that his testosterone levels were lower than Superstar Billy Graham who abused steroids for years and is also considerably older. Billy Graham also has to take testosterone. *edited upon further research THIS IS STILL NOT ROID RAGE
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    Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released

    Initially I get the feeling that the media was surprised that WWE did in fact test their talent. I really doubt there would be any testing had Eddie not died. They did it to be proactive for media scrutiny in light of one of their top talents dying at 38 but the media didn't care until a wife and seven year old died with the wrestler. Then they realized that a lot of wrestlers have died and here we are.
  11. justcoz

    Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released

    I think Benoit did it to save pro wrestling from the Who Blew Up Mr. McMahon storyline. He knew he was the God of the smarks and he sacrificed himself and his family to kill a low point in creative - not unlike Jesus dying for our sins and a suicide bomber dying for Allah. He shot up some roids, walked around like Frankenstein for about fifteen minutes and then went on his rage of terror. He was also upset that Meltzer had been giving him *** ratings. Sorry for making light of a terrible situation but I've been in serious mode for the past three weeks or however long it's been. I needed a break and so many ridiculous theories have been made - is the above anymore ridiculous? Who knows what the fuck the guy was thinking. We will never know and I still can't watch wrestling the same way.
  12. justcoz

    Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released

    If the enforcement of the policy is a joke then the policy is a joke, no matter how 'solid' the language of it is. No its not. You can't point at a written policy, like those on news shows have been trying to do and some here as proof that their wellness policy is a joke when the policy itself is very solid. The written policy IS a joke. It is bullshit that the prescription loopholes (for injury rehab and TRT) are there. It's bullshit that 4:1 isn't a failure. It's bullshit that it doesn't require a witness to collection of urine samples. But at least it's well written bullshit. and TNA don't even bother to write up bullshit - specifically so they can hire whatever talent WWE does choose to randomly discipline.
  13. justcoz

    Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released

    The current testing does not include marijuana. They don't consider it any different than alcohol. I'm sure they don't want their talent arrested with it or walking around backstage doing it openly but they exclude marijuana from testing, it's the least of their concerns.
  14. justcoz

    Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released

    Are you sure about this? I think the WWE testing is monitored. They had doctors monitoring the samples in the 90's although X-Pac said a few of them were easy to slip by. WCW didn't monitor anything but I"m pretty sure WWE's testing is watched and they can'd do the old pee switch.
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    Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released

    Right, I thought, given the circumstances, he handled himself pretty well until that part. Even if he would have just said that Benoit may have started back up on roids after he cleared the April test. There is plenty of time in between the testing date and the murders for this to be WWE's defense of their testing process and they should at least prep the talent that are speaking to the media to respond to a question about the possibility of his toxicology showing steroids.
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    Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released

    I know where you're coming from - it's up to WWE to change the body type associated with making a lot of money in pro wrestling. I agree with that completely. The thing is, they kind of did the last time they were forced in this situation, when guys like HBK and Bret Hart were pushed for the first time, although I would assume both of them were roided up at various points. My point is those guys influenced a whole new generation of fans that wrestlers didn't have to be Hulk Hogan, the Road Warriors and the Ultimate Warrior. That carried over into Nitro and their showcase of luchas and cruiserweights. So the indies are full of people influenced by smaller guys but Vince has no interest in them - he wants the 6'4 at least 275lbs. or whatever Johnny Ace's requirement is. So the little guys still feed the same need to bulk up - just like Eddie and Benoit - if they every wanna headline Wrestlemania - just to get in the door really.
  17. justcoz

    Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released

    No, it's not, not when guys are dying under the watch of every company, not just WWE. Let's also not forget that ROH was quick to give Jamie Noble work, regardless of him literally having a needle in his ass from what I remember, and how quick TNA were to hire Jeff Hardy and Kurt Angle, despite their issues. WWE's policing or enforcing of their drug program does the business no good if smaller companies just hire the punished talent anyway. And then it will be up to WWE to defend the business if those individuals die under someone else's watch, despite WWE taking action and releasing them. If there is any reason for regulation - it's that - and it goes beyond WWE. If Randy Orton got shit canned tomorrow by WWE, enforcing their drug policy, he'd be available to work for TNA, ROH or whoever. So what good does it do?
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    Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released

    I haven't read the letter but it's been documented that both Eddie and Chris were extremely judgmental of their work and critical of their own matches. Chris in particular supposedly would email Alvarez and Meltzer about feedback to his matches or things he read in the Observer. So I'm sure part of their "individual choice" to take steroids or pain killers were due to a desire to perform at Chris Benoit and Eddie Guerrero match quality levels and people like Meltzer would be the first to comment whenever they didn't. I'm just saying it's not something to completely laugh off or label ridiculous. It's no more ridiculous then saying that they needed to continue taking roids to be a top guy in WWE when they had already earned a reputation in the company for their work ethic and there are guys like Edge and HBK on top who obviously aren't roided up now. Okay, having read the Observer website just now, the guy that wrote this email was an idiot, with the bicycle analogy and all. Still, his point about those guys being addicts in part due to maintaining the level of work they had a reputation for, and the role of the internet and guys like Meltzer and Keller, shouldn't be laughed off.
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    Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released

    I haven't read the letter but it's been documented that both Eddie and Chris were extremely judgmental of their work and critical of their own matches. Chris in particular supposedly would email Alvarez and Meltzer about feedback to his matches or things he read in the Observer. So I'm sure part of their "individual choice" to take steroids or pain killers were due to a desire to perform at Chris Benoit and Eddie Guerrero match quality levels and people like Meltzer would be the first to comment whenever they didn't. I'm just saying it's not something to completely laugh off or label ridiculous. It's no more ridiculous then saying that they needed to continue taking roids to be a top guy in WWE when they had already earned a reputation in the company for their work ethic and there are guys like Edge and HBK on top who obviously aren't roided up now.
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    Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released

    They have spent the past 10 years routinely plugging issues of their publication from the McMahon trial (I'm including Keller in here too) and both have brought it up this time around - despite the fact that the five most recent deaths were an overdose of someone that hadn't been in the company since 1994, another person that never wrestled for the company at all and a domestic dispute DOUBLE MURDER SUICIDE from an obviously fucked up man that was drunk, depressed and on various prescription meds. Last time I looked at the Torch website there were several items from the McMahon trial. No there aren't specific examples but it doesn't take a genius to see that they've carried a hard on for McMahon walking free all these years. They may say, "Oh, we just want the industry to be better" but if that was the case how come they aren't harping on changes to TNA, ROH, AAA or whatever other company is out there. Their focus is on McMahon and WWE and while they are the industry leader they are also the only company in the industry that has made changes, that do pay for rehab, pay for surgeries, etc. Listen, they can be be critical and they both make valid points. Improvements do have to be made. Anyone can see the loopholes in the drug testing and the fact that they still push big guys. And there is also a problem when people retire with no pension. Anyone that defends WWE to any extent on here recognizes those problems. But be like Dave Scherer and acknowledge that changes for the better have been made by the company and it's a different scene than it was ten or even five years ago. The Wellness Program wasn't going to be perfected in two years and at some point they were going to be called on the prescription loophole - there was an investigation under way before the Benoit thing. The fact that it isn't a rock star enivoronment backstage, there is drug testing and doctor examinations, there are a lot more clearer thinking wrestlers than there were 10 or 15 years ago, the schedule is lighter and they push a safer style are all positives. And they can't expect WWE employees to not be on the defensive with the media. The media isn't reporting this as a pro wrestling problem - they are labeling it a WWE problem. It's the WWE logo on the screen with the wrestling deaths headline and that is an attack on their livlihood. So of course they are going to be on the defensive and say things like only five deaths were under their watch - in their eyes they aren't responsible for Road Warrior Hawk being on steroids and drugs years before he came into WWF, Curt Henning doing cocaine in his 40's, the Von Erich deaths, Terry Gordy, Chris Adams and all of these names being thrown around that had nothing to do with a WWF/WWE problem. Nor is a contracted talent going to say something about forming a union for a pension/health care and the drugs floating around backstage. Even when they do respond to something honestly - like the Mark Henry interview - Meltzer and Keller are the first ones to make sure that EVERYONE knows of what he said in some regional newspaper and how the company shouldn't be happy with it.
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    Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released

    You seem to misunderstand. This was to prove the point that Kennedy and Finlay were both saying things contrary to what the WWE had publicly said. Both Alvarez and Meltzer have sources inside the WWE, and they have both apparently seen the wellness policy. They both have more information than you, whether you want to believe it or not. You or anyone else can also access a lot of that information by reading the WON. It's better than keeping one's head in the sand. I read the Observer and they aren't always right. And I think Alvarez specifically said that he read the wellness policy online. I'm not sure though but that's how I took his comment on Nancy Grace. They've both stated that you get a pass if you present a prescription for whatever you test positive for. Finlay said the doctor they use looks into the details behind your prescription before deciding if you get a pass or not. If a doctor has a legitimate reason to prescribe Benoit steroids (low testosterone from previous sterod abuse) or a reason to give Rey Mysterio a prescription for pain killers (injuries) and xanax (trouble sleeping, anxiety) what can WWE do? Now granted the amounts of steroids that Benoit was receiving is frightening but was there any way for WWE to know he was receiving that much from that one doctor? That deal was struck between the doctor and Benoit.
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    Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released

    See, it's stuff like this. Meltzer and Alvarez bring the facts, and both are of the opinion that WWE deserves some of the blame and needs to make some changes. The evidence points to that argument being more correct than the opposing viewpoint. Not to say that guys like Mero aren't full of shit, because I don't know if he really has his facts straight either, but his side of the argument makes a lot more sense knowing the specifics of the wellness policy, and knowing how much bullshit damage-control PR is coming from WWE and their wrestlers. It's just a matter of getting that information out there, but even if it was, there seems to be a group of individuals who don't want to listen. Alvarez saying last night that he got his information about the WWE wellness policy straight from the press release and description they posted on their website makes it seem like he has as much factual information as I do or anyone with Internet access. Finlay is in the WWE locker room, he's subjected to the testing and enforces the testing on other people so he has every right to bring that point up in his argument, even if it comes off like a cop out to some. No one can deny that the WWE needs to make some changes to their testing and demands on workers but they also deserve some benefit of the doubt for making the changes they have made to lessen tragedies, lighten the schedule, change the backstage atmosphere, paying for rehab, paying for surgeries and sparing the guy's bodies by pushing a specific style. Of the wrestling media - Scherer and the pwinsider guys have a grasp of that - Meltzer, Alvarez and Keller are stuck are obsessed on the negative because they still can't get over the fact that Vince walked in the 90's, whether the admit that or not. Like I've said repeatedly - if WWE would just stop pushing guys because they are big - I think that's really the biggest problem here. Vince's perception of what a top guy needs to look like.
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    Chris Benoit Dead - Toxicology results released

    Misleading... he's been talking about the business as a whole. I'm not some big Mero supporter or whatever, but if someone can show me where he specifically singles out only the WWE, I'd like to see it. If it did happen then I must've missed it. But otherwise, every clip on YouTube that I've seen has him talking about the business as a whole and he only mentions Vince/WWE because they're on a big enough stage to institute some sort of change. Right - Mero may be guilty of getting a lot of face time but he's not singling out WWE. Unlike Konnan who said on Nancy Grace that Vince McMahon gets away with murder literally and figuratively.
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    Top WWE guy sent home

    My money is on Howard Finkle. This is how much faith I have in Keller - it would be cool if I was wrong.
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    Bobby Lashley - Is he underrated?

    Why does it have to be a black manger? Because Bobby doesn't trust whitey Actually, if Lashley ever turns heel, I'd stick Estrada with him. God knows they're not using him much now. Why does it have to be a minority? Why not Arn Anderson? A perfectly fine white boy?
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