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Hate to say it but as good as I think this album is, I don't think it'll win many converts. While it is stripped of a lot of the somewhat overproduced tacky schmaltz that would plague most of his Wings material, I think this album displays the laid back,devil may care attitude that a lot of people really dislike about his solo material.

...actually yes...twice. In fairness, both times I was under the age of 8 but still it's scarred me for life and launched a lifelong hatred.

You know she should. She is really, really terrible but I don't think she posts enough to qualify for a worst prize. That and I'm not sure how much of my hatred is due to her shitty posting and how much is due to my virulent hatred of fat chicks.

"When did bob_barron go downhill for you?" IMHO, it was probably when he was named ombudsman. He didn't need a title to justify his constant whining.

I have a feeling I might get nominated this year for my occasional, annoying drunken antics but I don't think I'll make it past the first round.

For what it's worth, I read an interview with Tommy Lee a few years back and they asked him about working on a Nick Carter solo album and Tommy said that Nick could outparty Slash. Oh and I think me and Sensei John Kreese are the only ones that care about this but Ruckus, the free, legal subscription music service for college students, is no more. While the selection was spotty at best, I'm going to miss it. The fact that it ended without warning seems kind of fishy.

This is becoming the new Let's Talk About... thread for me (though someone feel free to start one of those up again if the mood strikes). Anyways I figured it's time for our first tag team edition of TSM Profile... Name: Demolition Members: Ax (Bill Eadie, 1987-1990, mid '90s-present)), Smash (Randy Colley, 1987. Barry Darson, 1987 to 1991, 2007 to present), Crush (1990 to 1991) Height: Ax- 6'3'' Smash- 6'2 Crush- 6'6'' Combined Weight: Various, depending on combination. Years active: 1987 to 1991, 2007-present Accomplishments: 3 time WWF Tag Team Champions. Had the longest reign in the title's history. Career Summary: Demolition debuted in January '87, managed originally by Luscious Johnny V. After only a few matches, Randy Colley was replaced as Demolition Smash, allegedly because he was too recognizable as the man who played Moondog Rex. He would be replaced by Barry Darsow, a recent signee from Jim Crockett Promotions. Over the course of '87, Demolition would build up momentum defeating all of the established babyface tag teams in the WWF. They would soon replace Luscious Johnny V with another former wrestler, Mr. Fuji as their manager. At WrestleMania IV, Demolition would win their first WWF Tag Team titles, defeating Strike Force. They would go on to be champions for a record 478 days. Not only that but they were on top of one of the greatest tag team divisions in WWF history, including (at various points during the reign) the likes of; The Hart Foundation, The British Bulldogs, The Rockers, The Fabulous Rougeaus, The Powers of Pain, The Killer Bees, Strike Force, and The Brainbusters. At Survivor Series '88, Demolition turned face after Mr. Fuji abandoned them to manage their arch-rivals, The Powers of Pain. Demolition conquered The Powers of Pain and Mr. Fuji and retained their titles in a 3 on 2 match at WrestleMania V. Demolition finally lost the titles in a two out of three falls match to The Brainbusters on The July 29th, 1989 edition of Saturday Night's Main Event. A little over three months later, Demolition would regain the titles in a rematch against The Brainbusters on Superstars but their second reign was short-lived as they fell to the superteam of Andre The Giant and Haku, more popularly known as The Colossal Connection on The December 30th, 1989 edition of Superstars. In a memorable match at WrestleMania VI, Demolition would recapture the title from The Colossal Connection and would begin their third and final WWF Tag Team titles reign. Shortly after WrestleMania, a new member named Crush would join the team and Demolition would once again turn heel. In kayfabe, Crush joining the group was a result of their new bad attitude but in reality, McMahon added a new member to the team as a result of Ax's illness problems. At SummerSlam '90, The Hart Foundation would defeat Demolition for the titles with the help of recent arrivees, The Legion of Doom (a team that many initially accused Demolition of ripping off). Demolition would feud with The Legion of Doom and WWF World Champion, The Ultimate Warrior over the course of the Fall of '90. This feud culminated in a match at Survivor Series '90 where The Warrior, Intercontinental Champion Kerry Von Erich, and The Legion of Doom would defeat Mr. Perfect and all three members of Demolition. Shortly thereafter, Ax left the WWF. Smash and Crush floundered as a team for several months afterwards before being repackaged (Darsow as Repo Man and Crush as....er...Crush, a fun loving Hawaiian). Bill Eadie and The WWF would be embroiled in lawsuits for the better part of the '90s and into the '00s over The Demolition name. Eadie wrestled as Ax, regularly on the indie circuit, attempting to reignite the team with the original Smash, Randy Colley and newcomer, Demolition Blast. In 2007, the classic Demolition lineup of Darsow and Eadie would reunite on the indie circuit. Most notably, they teamed up with The One Man Gang and competed in the 2008 CHIKARA King of Trios tournament. Some Questions to perhaps to start the discussion 1. Better as heels or babyfaces? 2. Do you think they ever really shed the LOD/Road Warriors ripoff label? 3. Similar follow up; Demolition or The Legion of Doom/Road Warriors? 4. Where would you rank them amongst the great tag teams of their era? Of all time? 5. Favorite matches, moments, etc.

Yeah, still...not a lot of breadth there. Another thing that works against Cabbageboy is that he seems kind of blissfully ignorant of the fact that we all don't like him. Responding to shit talking generally helps you in the Worst Poster tournament. The tournament seems wide open this year. There really isn't a clear cut winner. MVP is gone, EHME has toned down his act somewhat, I don't see Marvin taking it two years in a row (and he seems to have toned down his act a bit)...Everybody else seems to have a share of defenders, even Brody. I think a dark horse could very well take it this year.

I'm in an '80s pop mood so I'm listening to Billy Ocean. I'm wondering how they let "Caribbean Queen" slide? Such a ripoff of "Billie Jean"...why didn't I notice this until a few years ago?

It might sound weird but given that I've never attended a PPV or a RAW/Smackdown (or Nitro/Thunder for that matter) taping, I think my favorite live event was a WCW Saturday Night taping in May '98, two nights after Slamboree. I know a lot of people rag on those marathon tapings but I personally enjoyed them, you got a lot of bang for your buck. I saw something like 24 matches for $25. You can't beat that. While there was a lot of crap (there were three, count 'em, three Kendall Windham matches), I got to see virtually every good wrestler (workrate wise) in action. There was a bitching Dean Malenko-Chavo Guerrero Jr Cruiserweight title match and one of Booker T and Chris Benoit's Best of 7 matches. Show also holds a lot of nostalgia as it was the first, last, and only WCW show that came to Portland. Unlike the other marathon tapings, I went to. It was amusing, all night they had promised us a Wolfpac Vs nWo Hollywood member main event (this was at the peak of that stupid angle) and that main event was...Konnan Vs The Giant! Actually, that's probably better than most post-Thunder WCW Saturday Night taping main events.

Would it be fair to say that The Eagles were the 70s equivalent of Nickelback? In that they sold millions and millions of records and sell out arenas and stadiums yet I could name on one hand the number of people I know that openly admit to listening to them. Actually, I don't hate them per say. Their music is too middle of the road to deserve the same furor I reserve for Limp Bizkit or The Insane Clown Posse. Like Cheech, I also don't mind Joe Walsh. "Boys of Summer" is also a huge guilty pleasure.

Sorry Cheech, you know how much I love classic rock that rocks but even I can't dig the Eagles...except for some odd reason "One of These Nights" which incidentally is one of the aforementioned cases of rock goes disco. I think though I might have inherited my Eagles hatred from my Dad. Though actually Pops Kamala really doesn't care for The Beach Boys. He would always change the channel when they came on the oldies station and even went as far as to say Todd Rundgren's cover of "Good Vibrations" is "way better than the original". The odd thing is that cover is almost exactly like the original! And for some odd reason at the same time, he really likes Frankie Valli and The Four Seasons, who I always thought of as the slightly poppier, East Coast equivalent of The Beach Boys. Off topic but has anybody heard The Four Seasons' psychadelic album Imitation Life Gazette? Surprisingly, not terrible.

Aw that's just Banky being Banky. He said the same thing in The Rolling Stones thread. I think the consensus is that The Rolling Stones did the best disco crossover of all the dinosaur rockers (Though I do have a soft spot for "I Was Made For Loving You") . The Beach Boys' disco shit extends to basically one song (a remake of "Here Comes The Night") that was pretty bad.

I'd disagree with that...though I'm not 100% sure what you're talking about. Friends is the only BB album I'd classify as easy listening and that's not really at all comparable to The Eagles. If you're talking about the early '70s stuff, I thought it was more of a reaction to The Eagles and other country rock acts than an influence.

I'm listening the disco remix of "Here Comes The Night" again, I'd kind of like it as an odd guilty pleasure if it weren't for the lame saxophone solo. Is there any song in the late '70s besides "Baker Street" that was helped by the sax?

Yeah, it is definitely the best Beach Boys solo release but don't expect anything like the group's music...it's pretty dark (not in terms of sound but lyrics). I think it's definitely a great record but I don't know like Pet Sounds, I think the expectations set forth by rock historians and critics are impossible to really fulfill. The re-release that you mention is pretty kicking. Since I like to consider myself an amateur historian of The Beach Boys, I'll do a primer for those of you who haven't explored much outside of the radio hits and Pet Sounds. Fortunately for anybody interested in the group, most of their albums are available as part of two for one packages. Your mileage may very but I consider anything they did from about 1965 to '74 pretty infallible. Essentials The Beach Boys Today!/Summer Days and Summer Nights: The former album was the first album released after Brian Wilson's nervous breakdown that took him off the road. These albums sort of serve as the transition from the fun and surf songs to Pet Sounds, though they lean a tad more towards the former. Highlights: "When I Grow Up (To Be A Man)", "Please Let Me Wonder", "Help Me, Rhonda", "Girl Don't Tell Me", "California Girls", "I'm Bugged At My Ol' Man" Smiley Smile/Wild Honey: The follow ups to Pet Sounds. I think Carl Wilson hit the nail on the head when he dubbed Smiley Smile as a single instead of the grand slam that SMiLE would have been. It's not without its moments but it's probably my least favorite mid '60s Beach Boys record. Its whimsy is more cloying than charming. Wild Honey was dubbed The Beach Boys' attempt at R&B and their return to straight up rock after a psychadelic detour. While I'm sure Stax and Motown weren't shaking in their boots after hearing this, it is an incredibly loose and yes, at times, soulful record. It's definitely one of my favorites. Highlights: "Heroes and Villains", "Good Vibrations", "Wonderful", "Aren't You Glad", "Darlin'", "Here Comes The Night", "Let The Wind Blow" Friends/20/20: Friends is probably the least commercial record in The Beach Boys oeuvre. A laid back tribute to friendship and transcendental meditation released in the volatile Summer of '68. Needless to say, it was their least successful record to that point. Personally, I think it's a very charming record and Brian Wilson has called it his favorite Beach Boys record. 20/20, their last record at Capitol Records is essentially a collection of leftovers and thus lacks the cohesiveness that most of their records of that era had. However, I think the thrown together spirit of this record works in its favor. You get a little bit of everything and for the first time, a sizable portion of the tracks come from members other than Brian Wilson. Highlights: "Meant For You", "Friends", "Anna Lee, The Healer", "Busy Doin' Nothin", "I Can Hear Music", "Be With Me", "I Went To Sleep", "Time To Get Alone" Sunflower/Surf's Up: Sunflower, I think is the second most essential record in The Beach Boys' career behind Pet Sounds. Their first record for Warner Brothers and the return of Brian Wilson after a two year absence. It was hailed in the UK press as The Beach Boys "Sgt. Pepper". All of the other Beach Boys are at the peak of their songwriting prowess and Wilson, for the most part, seems rather unaffected by his turbulant personal life. Unfortunately at this stage, The Beach Boys were too old and square to the still prominent counterculture scene and not quite old enough to be nostalgia acts and thus Sunflower became their lowest charting album yet. Surf's Up was an attempt to rebrand The Beach Boys as enviromentally friendly hippies. Once again, though Brian Wilson is mostly absent outside of one new composition and a few SMiLE leftovers. It's a remarkably inconsistant. Some of it is absolutely tremendous and some of it is absolutely awful. Highlights: "This Whole World", "Add Some Music To Your Day", "Tears In The Morning", "Forever", "Cool, Cool Water", "Long Promised Road", "Disney Girls (1957)", "Feel Flows", "Till I Die", "Surf's Up" Mileage May Vary Surfin' Safari/Surfin' USA[/b], Surfer Girl/Shut Down Vol. 2, Little Deuce Coupe/All Summer Long: I've got mixed feelings about the surf rock albums. Most of the singles have been overplayed and most of the album tracks aren't very good. All Summer Long is probably the best of the lot. Carl and The Passions---So Tough/Holland: Once again, The Beach Boys attempt to rebrand themselves- this time as an AOR band, displacing bassist Bruce Johnston with South African rockers, Blondie Chaplin and Ricky Fataar. I'm a fan of both of these records but they're probably the least critically acclaimed records pre-'80s. Most don't care for Chaplin and Fataar's tracks but they're certainly better than anything Mike Love or Al Jardine had produced in the last thirty years or so. Highlights: "Marcella", "Make It Good", "All This Is That", "Sail On Sailor", "California Saga: California", "The Trader", "Only With You" 15 Big Ones/Love You: 15 Big Ones was dubbed Brian's big comeback but its mostly a hodge podge of oldies covers, leftovers and terrible odes to transcendental meditation with a few new tracks thrown in. The Brian Wilson tracks are great but the ravages of alcohol and drugs on Brian and Dennis Wilson's voices make the oldies sound just depressing. Love You is Wilson's true comeback, he wrote and produced every song on the album. This is probably the most divisive record in The Beach Boys catalog as its basically a startling musical closeup of Brian's shattered, adult child psyche, led by the overwhelming, outdated sounds of farting synthesizers. Personally, I love it. Its relentlessly charming with a few genuinely brilliant moments. IMHO, it's the last great Beach Boys album Highlights: "It's OK", "Had To Phone Ya", "Mona", "Johnny Carson", "Honkin' Down The Highway", "The Night Was So Young", "I'll Bet He's Nice" For completists only M.I.U. Album/L.A. (Light Album): Once again- The Beach Boys try to rebrand themselves- on these albums as soft rockers (with one infamous track seeing them take a stab at disco). Though each has its own moments- Brian Wilson's mental crises and Dennis and Carl Wilson's drug and alcohol problems lead to these albums featuring a lot of material by Mike Love and Al Jardine...which is not so good. Highlights: "My Diane", "Good Timin'", "Baby Blue", "Love Surrounds Me" Keepin' The Summer Alive/The Beach Boys '85: Here we witness the final rebranding of The Beach Boys as a fun loving oldies act. Though they do try to bring in then current contemporaries (Randy Bachman, Boy George, Stevie Wonder) to enliven the sound to not much success. We've now reached the dregs though that's not to say they're not without their moments. Highlights: "Goin' On", "Getcha Back", "It's Gettin' Late", "Male Ego" Whew...talk about TL;DR but I guess helpful if you're vaguely interested in The Beach Boys.

Not doing much of anything, he died two years ago. He was a shell of his former self by the end of WCW but I'm still kind of surprised that TNA or WWE didn't give him another run. I'll answer the questions a bit later. But not having seen a lot of his ECW work, I'd say one of the peaks of his career outside of his initial WWF debut (which was a great angle but as Cheech said had a rather disappointing climax), was the first few months of his second WWF run. It looked like they were building him up to be a big monster heel and he even main evented on the house show circuit with Bret Hart while he was The World Champion IIRC but he kind of got lost in the shadows of Yokozuna. I wonder how different things would have been if it was Bam Bam Bigelow receiving the monster heel push in '93 instead of Yokozuna.

However, I am able to send erotic PMs to Kinetic with a two beer buzz

Man, I was half expecting some more drunken posting tonight. But alas the band we went to only played forty minutes and there was no free alcohol as expected. I think I could have mediated not only my beef with YPOV but EHME's beef with Byron The Bulb but I simply can't do so on a two beer buzz.

Yeah...I pretty much stick to VH1 Classics, news, and sports these days. The only scripted show I watch it with any regularity is Saturday Night Live. The shows I do watch, I watch when they come out on DVD. 'Course it doesn't help that I don't have cable when I'm off at school. Actually know what's an awesomely bad channel? Fox Reality Channel. Got to love the endless showings of When Animals Attack, Celebrity Boxing, and Man Vs Beast. Still I hate to be one of those goofs that say I don't watch/hate television. There's a lot of wildly entertaining and/or genuinely high quality stuff out there, you just have to wade through a lot of crap to get to it. Hence why I like watching television on DVD so much.

Sanford and Son reruns? Actually, last time I tuned in about six months ago, they were playing a marathon of Sanford, the short-lived sequel series where Redd Foxx ran the junkyard with a lovable fat southern hick.

Are you dissing The King Kamala Krew?

For the record, I'm not going to break my no "e-beef" rule to take on Your Paragon of Virtue. If I were though, I'd be backed by a posse including Cheech, Byron The Bulb, and EHME. Also there's a band from Athens, Georgia playing a party here on campus tonight. I wonder if they know Kinetic. Perhaps I should ask.

Is any major cable channel still good according to you goons? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm having a hard time thinking of one that I haven't heard someone say is going downhill. Even HBO is not completely infallible after The Sopranos, Six Feet Under, Deadwood, and The Wire are done. VH1 Classics is pretty cool but I think they're starting rely a bit too much on Movies That Rock and countdowns. Though That Metal Show is pretty entertaining.

Can you at least cite a reason why exactly you're skipping my posts? If you're going to hate me- I want a detailed account as to why. The only complaint I can see being lodged against me is I'm a bit middle of the road most of the time and my drunken posts were kind of obnoxious the other night. If I want to start an e-beef with a poster I hardly know (no disrespect- I think we frequent different folders), I want a reason as to why. For the record, I don't hate At Home. Mildly resentful of him but far from outright hatred. He's a fine up and coming poster. In fact, I can't say I hate any TSM poster. But I do think I have had mild dislike at one point or another for about 75% of the regulars.