AndrewTS

proper word would be moron? How are they morons? They turned the channel. We didn't. Speak for yourself--I tuned out when Orton appeared and when the Kane/Edge match came up. Wrestlecrap often draws big ratings, so no big surprise about Visc.

Hm.

My EB had the game for $19.99 + tax, so after the voucher I'll have paid $1.19. Awesome. As the voucher says, you've got until the 30th to buy it for the rebate, although I'm not sure how long the game will be 20 bucks. And being on par with EGM is damning with faint praise.

I saw it mentioned on another board. Apparently they ran out of online stock, but if you get it in store there's a coupon in their circular: http://forums.slickdeals.net/attachment.ph...tachmentid=6860 ...for a $20 voucher.

"They're usually a good magazine" No, they aren't.

I've scouted around various MBs--general consensus is that Shadow's game is mediocre at best, with the gun thrown in as a cheap gimmick. However, people like Sonic Rush currently more than any of the Advance games and perhaps as much as the Genesis games.

I liked the first one a lot, even if Super Mario RPG was better (I don't like the 2nd-rate feel of the extra party members). ...however, we all know it's merely a 6/10 game, because of the difficulty (according to Game Informer).

With the exception of the artificial shortage for Christmas, which Microsoft is going to have a shot at if they dare. Plus, the addition of the Killzone video in addition to trotting out the amazing Final Fantasy CG. And for the Jin model--even in win poses we're not going to be seeing pores, so unless they decide to go through the trouble of making them, and them zooming the camera in on their faces for no reason but to show them off, I can't think of a single bloody good reason why they'd need to incorporate that into the in-game graphics. Improving the skin textures to make them more lifelike? Sure. Pores? Pfft...come on.

I don't think we'll see the true Revolution specs from Nintendo themselves until they're sure Sony's already committed themselves. Then again, it's not like these specs reveal the "Revolutionary" feature. I'm not going to cream myself over the prospect of it being the most powerful, or even the 2nd most powerful out of the 3. However, I have faith it's going to be something that's mighty awesome. Remember that the Gamecube's specs were heavily downplayed, but it routinely cranks out stuff that puts the PS2 to shame and it's multi-console stuff is usually about on par with XBox. If this is true, I'm sure the Nintendo-haters are going to complain that Nintendo lied to them (when I believe even the quote mentioning the power included "at least" in it, so it's no lie), but I think the specs are more for the digestion of their competitors than anything a gamer should be basing decisions around. Isn't Factor5 supposed to be PS3-exclusive, though? Sony's really the biggest offender in that game, though.

"Now if only Warners would put together some 2-disc SE of these films." Eh, I'd guess almost certainly they'd be coming.

High protein/low carb diet, too.

Freaky. I thought for a second I'd stumbled into Night of the Previously-Banned Posters.

"But it did somehow translate into what smarks who pretty much hate the product now call 'the Good ol days'. Which confuses me, because like you said, most of it was crap, a lot more then now at least, and yet people praise this era." This is news to me.

Yup.

The "Cold Stone Ice Cream" ad made me chuckle. Would have made a great commercial tie-in with Chilly McFreeze.

Well, online Mario Kart is coming--on DS! By the way, speaking of X-Box Live, I'd heard that some aspects of X-Box Live are patented by Microsoft. Anybody know much about that? Funny you mention PS3's functionality... Remember this old gem? It's back, and just a little less vague! : http://www.gamespot.com/6126423 I repeat--OMG PS3 IZ @ PC!!!!!

Alot of spinoff games are Mario related. I think Zelda and/or Metroid will be more important to the Revolution launch than Wario Warez or Sonic Adventure 4. Launching with a Zelda game? That would be wise but I'm not seeing it. It'd be too soon after Twilight Princess and Zelda games don't come in the launch windows, traditionally, anyway. All common sense and logic says it will launch with a Mario platformer. Sunshine 2/128/256/whatever, but there's no way in hell they're going to pull another Luigi's Mansion out. And frankly, I see that selling more systems than anything likely they're going to have ready for launch. Of course, if we can get a new Metroid Prime with massive multi-player potential, that'd be a big boon. Supposedly Retro's hard at work with something big. Japan will yawn at it, but it would be a huge boost in the West.

Because nearly all of the GC's lineup are made up of Mario/Sonic games...? Tons of those platformers are multi-platform, but PS2 does have Sly/R&C/Jaks exclusively. I disagree almost completely. Third party support for the Dreamcast was very strong. Once it got past its initial PC shovel-ware stage, it had tons of support. Sega themselves, Namco, Capcom, Ubisoft, Sega Sports, Lucasarts, Konami, Midway, GameArts, Acclaim, Activision, etc all threw their support behind the Dreamcast. The only *huge* names that they didn't have that Sony had were probably Square and EA. However, Sega had problems overcoming their past images as failures due to the 32x, Sega CD, and Saturn. It wasn't just Sony's hype--it was their choice in media. With the switchover to DVDs, 3rd parties deserted the Dreamcast, and it was all over. Sega basically got creamed by Sony two console generations in a row before Sony had even launched their system against them. Nintendo has an impressive list of third parties right now, but the quantity and variety of the games they're putting out is a little sparse. MS/Sony have 3rd parties that they don't have, specifically ones that appeal more to Western gamers. Sega also was a game and game console company first, and didn't have the resources to take on Sony, not that it mattered much with the Dreamcast at that point. Sensei's already covered the cart/CD argument well, so kudos on that. Way to no-sell my "Sony is a massive multi-national conglomerate with their hands in the music industry, entertainment industry, movie industry, electronics industry, in addition to supporting the Playstation line" point. Their influence is so broad-reaching and their resources so vast, I don't blame Nintendo for losing market share to them. The fact that they're alive right now is a testament to them more than anything. Asking "how could Nintendo lose their #1 spot to them?" is a pretty damn stupid question, I think. Another question: does having the most powerful console automatically give you a huge competitive edge in the business? History seems to indicate it is irrelevant. The only time I think that the most powerful console was the most dominant in the industry was the 16-bit era, and the Genesis was still tough competition for the SNES. However, it wasn't totally because of the system's power, either. Plus, during the tail-end of that era you had the launches of the 3DO and Jaguar, which both went over like lead balloons (I guess 6 out 7 people are blithering idiots, hm Panasonic?).

Those of us who like getting laid. Once you get married that's really no longer an issue. There's many ways to interpret that...

The only hope is to hype up a game genre that has been dead for years. Nintendo needs to find the next big thing, the next killer app, the next Tetris. Or, more specifically, use their new technology (whatever it is) to create games that can only be done on the Revolution. Nintendo's making lots of follow-ups to hit properties because they're safe, but people neglect the fact that they're making some new franchises as well. Animal Crossing, Pikmin, Warioware, Cubivore, Custom Robo in addition to updates of their other franchises. However, because those newer ones aren't heavily action-oriented, they're often overlooked. And yes, it's extremely disconcerting to see how many kids nag their parents into buying them PS2s so they can play Grand Theft Auto. Perfect Dark for Gamecube? Huh? I don't really feel the WCW comparison is really apt. Even so, WCW had a billionaire financing it and still managed to be inept in everything from booking to production, while Nintendo has hardily stuck it out as the last company to be strictly a game company. I don't feel Nintendo should overdue the sequels, but would having another Mario 3D platformer be such a crazy idea? Oh, and *finally* they're making a Kirby platformer for the Gamecube: http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/action/ki...creenindex.html OMG GRAFFX2KIDDIEITSUXXORS. The Cube was Kirby-less for too long. Air Ride was an N64 game that was in development limbo until it came out on GC, BTW, so I don't really count it.

Once they run out of ways to cut costs, things are gonna change...

Ditto. Aside from important stuff omitted and strange things emphasized, the structure seemed very poor. Perfectly fine for MB post, but when I do an essay I know that I need to be more organized. Sounds like a DVD playback kit similar to the X-Box's.

Hm, I'd be interested in seeing the source on that. I have plenty of faith in the Revolution to be, if nothing else, a great system with plenty of great games. However, the Dreamcast fits that description as well. If its Nintendo's last console, so be it, it won't make it a bad system. I'm obviously a Nintendo fan, but I think it's unreasonable to call a system D.O.A. now. Only 360 is a tangible product. The market leader is currently a sleeping giant. The company who is supposed to be on death watch isn't going to be showing their system, all its features, and its games for quite a long time. I'm much more impressed with the DS right now than the PSP, and will be picking one up when some of those killer titles shown at E3 come out. I'm sure plenty of people are digging the PSP, though, but it looks like a PS2.5 to me. So for myself, personally, the "rare hardware power isn't everything" rhetoric seems more meaningful than the Sony/MS neophyte graphic whores.

That he completely ignores the fact that Sony launched neck-and-neck with the Saturn, like Sega didn't matter and that there wasn't a large gap in time from the PS1 to the N64 is somewhat irksome. "Because Nintendo became a household name replacing Atari for video games, it became pop-culture. Nickelodeon had Nick Arcade, which featured all sorts of different systems that the contestants could play and in the end they could be in a video game. I do not know how Nickelodeon put kids in a video game but they did it." This paragraph kind of lays there and dies. Do you realize that NA had tons of Sega Genesis titles on their regularly? I recall the Sonic games, Atomic Runner, and Golden Axe off the top of my head. "What happens when the Pokemon generation grows up? They will get a Xbox. " Yes, I'm sure that kids that grew up playing an RPG series religiously are going to switch to *X-Boxes*. "Is that revolutionary?" Well, you don't exactly know yet, do you? Just because Microsoft is unfashionably early doesn't mean that Sony and Nintendo should be letting everyone be privy to all their plans. Patience, grasshopper. "After the failure of the Nintendo 64" 23 million consoles sold isn't a failure. Nintendo's biggest problem is that they're facing off against two collossal mega-corporations with nigh-unlimited resources (you mentioned this, almost negligibly, in your conclusion). So, if to compete they have to go against the grain, be secretive, register patents on their technologies and even programming methods, then that's what they've got to do. Probably a lot better than he would if his professor knew much about the gaming industry. Where is Game and Watch? That was a big impetus for Nintendo getting into the console/gaming business. Where's the mention of the gaming crash? Nintendo started from stratch in a dead industry to build the NES up. Nice to see you included the early Sony/Nintendo relationship, though.

Switching the rails in front of a stopped train is no biggie. Hiroko sans makeup: http://t.pia.co.jp/battle/interview/image/...enzo_hiroko.jpg