AndrewTS

It was 26:00 long, and I remember looking at the clock every 10 seconds screaming "END THE FUCKING MATCH!". I actually cheered when UT won. Not because I liked him, but because it was over. God, I remember that one. At first i was wondering, "Why the hell are they stalling so much?" Then halwfay through I was thinking, "SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING!" Then Hall and X-Pac come down... and do nothing. At the end Flair obviously screwed up the 3 count. I watched the whole damn thing...one of the worst matches I'd ever seen. Not really any blown spots or anything, it was just that NOTHING happened! Huge stalling to start, punch, kick, the occasional signature move, Flair's goofy-looking shoes--just a huge, long, boring, NOTHING mess of a match. It's like they were trying to stink up the place intentionally. I could be wrong, but I think the fans were getting so bored they started chanting "X-Pac sucks" after him and Hall came down.

I personally found the draggin' incident more amusing, but yeah, that was great too. *I* Goldberg's car stalling was funnier, though.

Hogan/HHH wasn't quite *as* bad as Hogan/Taker, but HHH doing his really bad Flair impression, attacking Hogan's knee when he SURE AS HELL isn't Flair sucked. It would have made more sense to target the bad back and destroy that like he was doing with HBK would have been infinitely more interesting. What we got was HHH/Angle, only longer, more boring, and without Angle's skillz to make it entertaining--the ending was just as stupid, though.

Yeah, I'd agree. A solid undercard ruined by two of the most shitacularly boring matches I've ever seen. Austin and Taker completely stunk it up as a neutered Flair hung around wearing clown shoes. Then HHH and Hogan had a match nearly as bad, doing everything wrong that Rock-Hogan did right. Then we get the Hulkastalgia title win and a set up to a match nearly as bad for JD.

It's a shitty game. Controls and viewpoints are awkward, and it's basically just violence for the sake of violence. There's no real gameplay to be found. Plus the ways of killing are limited and repetitive.

Who?

Bwahaha, I missed that the first time around. That's what I get for just skimming over it. Everything I hear about Gewertz, from everybody from Nash to Raven, paints him as nothing but a complete nerd. It sure explains a lot, but I wonder how he even landed the job to begin with- he seems like the kind of guy Vince and most of the wrestlers would take lunch money from in school. He wrote for Big Wolf on Campus! Of course they got return pops, but those faded pretty quickly and Hogan was the main reason people cared. At Mania X8, they lost Hogan, and Austin beat Hall after dominating the feud. However, a single loss usually doesn't kill pops by itself. A good match for Nash is any match he can walk away from without an injury.

The spin on the nWo in WWF thing is hilarious. No, Nash, you and Hall didn't "pop the place." Hogan did--that old guy who actually drew in his prime and wrestled in 2002 without suffering an injury walking. "NASH: To me, it's the Gewertz kid that writes for them... I think his name is Brian Gewertz. He's like the head writer of Raw, and I never understood how our show is based on sex and violence, and you've got a guy who's the head writer who's never been laid and never been in a fight." So this is the old "if you don't wrestle, you aren't qualified to write about wrestling" line put in a different light? Granted, Gerwitz isn't qualified to write for TV period, but Nash is all wrong about why he isn't. Then again, Nash isn't a wrestler, and he was a shitty booker in WCW, so maybe there's something there.

UYI: Well, tell me what games you're looking for, what the prices you're looking at online are, and how much you think it would be to ship it there, and maybe we could work something out. Although it would probably be quite a bit to ship over to Austrailia, but it would be a lot cheaper to ship them together as opposed to separately.

"I actually like 2k quite alot, but 2k1 is just better." I guess statements like "plays like ass" might have misled me.

Yeah, in other words, what he he said. ^^ Besides, the storylines that are considered ECW's best were devised by Raven, Foley, etc--not Heyman.

Answer: he's with the Game-uh?

That would be a good idea if they do go with the ECW revival idea. Although I expect they'll just show recaps of Smackdown on the ECW show even so.

If Heyman and Gerwitz were given more, unrestrained power, we'd have a huge mess. Sure, new guys would be pushed, but in a way that isn't going to benefit anyone in the long run.

Sort of on topic--Spike TV is replaying Raw on Sunday.

Didn't RTC break up not long after Kat was fired and Val was kicked out? Originally the plan was to boot Val out of the RTC for having sex with her, but when she was fired they kind of had to hint around that, and it seemed the group dissolved not long after.

I'm an MF'ing Haasshole!!

They broke up not too long after SummerSlam 2001 (I think?) which led up the atrocious Undertaker-Kane / Kronik match at Unforgiven. Yeah, but I considered the RTC was good and dead when Steven was managing a pair of guys whose gimmicks were based on pot references. EDIT: I called Kronik "wrestlers." My bad.

Heh, I'm not alone on the Stacy song, then. It's sad when you can't find 3 seconds on an entire song that's listenable. "Honestly, for that whole December-February, Val and Ivory were quite good, and could have been separated from RTC. " Yeah, they could have been great heels, but Vince was more concerned in making fun of the PTC than actually doing something worthwhile with his employees. I remember rumors that Vince himself was going to be the one to stop the RTC at Mania or something, but it didn't happen and just kinda went on until it fizzled out. Bah, I marked out for Bull's ripoff of the Ax Kick, and the triangle kick.

I'll take that over whatever the hell that garbage was that Stacy "sings" on WWE Originals.

You obviously are referring to the parody of the Chyna-JR interview. That was GOLD!!

Well, that feud did suck, but it was mainly because Venis recently had turned to a horribly dull and generic heel, and I think that angle revolved around Socko or his stupid book, or--well, it was forgettable and boring, so I can't remember.

So, back on topic, is the "Lance as Val's protege" angle completely dropped? As stupid as it started out, it was still getting Lance a push. Funny. Lance was losing and losing and being insulted by Austin, and people said "it's going to end up in a push." So they give Lance a goofy character and goofy new ring music, he gets, like, one decent win, then never wins again, they start this angle with Val, and it never went anywhere. Is that about right? Oddly, it isn't like Val vanished, he's a Raw jobber now.

Trying to be too much like the late Rick Rude At least he was more successful than the other classic gimmick revival they tried about the same time: The Million Dollar Arab, Tiger Ali Singh. Though Tiger Ali Singh has about as much talent as Val's left nut. Then they thought "maybe he'd make a good manager! Let's stick turbans on a couple of jobbers and give it a go! Add racist jokes to taste."