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Oh, I see. As for the MST3K version--it was the very first show with Mike on the SOL. The previous episode "Mitchell" featured Joel escaping from the SOL, and Mike was sent up to replace him. Joel isn't a stoner, either. Oh yeah, those matte paintings just jump out at you sometimes. Then of course there's the fight with Chief battling a bunch of the aliens...really wimpy looking punches and kicks, with the aliens tumbling over Chief...one even just falls over by himself. "He was trained by Bruce Lee...bowitz." And of course... *mushroom cloud* "Grandpa tries to set his VCR" -- Mike. Ehhh...except for the almost unanimously panned ones I've listed, it's tricky. Sometimes on MST3K boards, I'll find a bunch of people who really like an episode I don't care for, or dislike an ep I really like. A lot of things affect how much you'll enjoy it: type of mood you're in, type of humor you go for, number of viewings, the movie itself, the host segments... The Joel era is more focused on obscure pop culture than it is more straight-forward humor. Mike was good with a lot of one-liners and relied less on the pop culture stuff. For example: Space Mutiny keeps the references to pop culture to a minimum (how they missed that the movie used stock footage from Battlestar Galactica I don't know), and it's mostly one-liners and no-nonsense jokes, in rapid fire succession. The nicknames for the protagonist are classic. Contrast to a Joel ep, Amazing Colossal Man. The pace of the riffs are a lot slower, and much of them are obscure pop culture references. Some episodes have a lot of riffs that are clever and funny, but not the sort that will put me on the floor rolling. There *were* Joel eps like that, though. So, if you can tell me what sort floats your boat, I can help you out. As for recommendations Angelslayer missed...let me get back to you on that. I'll have a pretty long list, probably.

While I generally wouldn't have a problem trying to spread the goodness of MST, I'm a busy man this semester and free time is a bit limited, but I'll see what I can do As for my own collection, I'd like to get Incredible Melting Man to replace my copy that my dad fucked up. I got that one, and it's excellent quality, too. PM me if you'd like to trade/buy it from me. I'm making some tapes for #1 MST3K Mark currently, and I could easily do a few tapes here and there and for friends, however anything larger than a few could take a little time. Of course, Tuesday no one else is going to be home and I got homework, so I could easily pop in and pop out tapes every now and then. I have a pretty good collection. Nothing like those traders that have every single ep including KTMA, but I have a good selection. I could make copies for any of the eps that would record well. I won't record any available through Rhino, except for the extremely-rare, extremely-limited Amazing Colossal Man. I lucked out and managed to pick up that one at a CD Warehouse. If others are interested, I could put a list in tape trading and I'll see what I can do. The only major deficiency in my collection is, surprisingly, Sci Fi eps. I never thought to tape episodes myself during the initial runs, and when Diabolik originally ran, I thought "cancelled" meant no reruns. Thought Sci Fi just pulled the plug and closed up the show. It is only since last year that I started taping Sci Fi eps, but eps containing movies whose rights expired a while ago aren't available to me. So, I'd be glad to offer some reasonable prices on my stuff, or I'd be glad to trade.

If they ever do a live action Fatal Fury, who might make a good Mai? Kinda disappointed that Capcom's First Lady of Fight didn't make it. Cool link, Ren. Thanks! EDIT: Uh...I was a sitting duck in round 2. Couldn't even block. What happened?

I may be in the minority here...but Angle a better worker than HBK? Huh?!

Both those matches sucked. HBK was still kinda rusty then, but I think he'd best stick to wrestling good wrestling matches, not spotfests. I can't see Mr. MetHHHodical Story-Telling thrilling anyone in that match either. I'm sure that Benoit and HBK would be pretty damn good in just about any match together, but I doubt either wants to take any sick bumps in this match.

Eh, I don't expect the studios to really try to hard to make this movie a success. Come on--the concept: the adventures of a very attractive superheroine who comes from an island filled with hot lesbians and dresses in a cleavage-revealing little top and a pair of panties, and ties up the bad guys. To your average movie exec, nothing else needs to be done to make it a hit.

5_moves_of_doom: Sounds like you missed the entire Comedy Central run. I don't know how you'd feel about Joel (the original host), but there are lots of great episodes in that era. Plus, Dr. Forrester and TV's Frank pretty much smoke the Sci Fi villians except for Brain Guy. Up to Angelslayer if he wants to do that or not, but I have a pretty good collection myself and tons of blank tapes stacked in my closet, so depending on who wants the task and what eps should be picked, we can hook you up. If not us, there are tons of tape traders who will be glad to help you out. Perhaps we can recommend some or warn against the bad ones. Frankenhooker. It's a goofy b-movie comedy. However, as for "The Brain..." itself--huh? That movie is really sleazy and misogynistic as far as I'm concerned. A guy cruising around town looking for strippers and models and other unsuspecting young girls, trying to find the right one to decapitate...sleazy music playing the whole while. Probably I'm not looking at the things you're talking about, but there are so many other movies on the show that could have actually been done right. Oh, and yeah--Manos is probably the most popular episode in the entire run. Why? I guess since it is one of the very worst movies they've ever done, and it isn't as boring as most of the others that are close to it--such as Monster A Go Go. Plus it has Torgo with his haunting theme music, the Master, and the borderline worst directing. It stands out because nobody has ever seen anything quite like that. Invasion of the Neptune Men or Prince of Space. The main difference is that PoS (not a flattering abbreviations...) is a far better movie. It actually has a memorable villain, and the hero actually goes into space. Neptune Men...well...it stars the Prince's brother-in-law or something who didn't earn the privilege of interstellar travel yet, fights a bunch of aliens who have zero personality, can barely move, and make "the chicken men of Krankor look super dignified and intelligent." Also, he plays second-fiddle to an "electro-barrier" and the final battle features WW2 stock footage, and the two sides battle until the aliens have destroyed everything but "Space Chief" stopped them before they annihilated the rest of the world, so he's a hero still. I guess Chief was assigned to watch over us while Prince was off in another galaxy. Kinda like Neil Connery was brought in when his brother was busy. Yes, that's another episode they did: a James Bond ripoff starring Sean Connery's brother, and they hired several Bond co-stars to appear in it.

Coffey: What crawled up your ass? I am discussing the topic, after all. That boxer was Tyson with a changed name/face. He was in VPW64, and they just felt like giving people a little variety. I fail to see how that's a game flaw. Polygon breakup? It's just as bad and sometimes worse in Here Comes the Pain, so I see that as pointless bitching. When you have to develop tons of animations for moves and a game involves various body types, some clipping and breakup are sure to happen now and then. Game freezing? Eh, you must have got a bad copy. Don't remember that ever happening to me. It's hard to really think of one, because they usually try. Although one that jumps to mind is Saturday Night Slam Masters. Not terrible, but it's a just a guy who isn't in the game (Ortega) tearing his shirt off a la Hulk Hogan. That's it. Laaaame. It's like the Super Street Fighter II games' intro, only not anywhere near as cool. Although the art on it is good.

I can't really say I'm anticipating MGS3. If this new game is more of the talking-heads bullshit, and jerking us around, then I won't change my opinion. Give me Metroids, both on the small and big screen, Konami goodness in may shapes and sizes (perhaps some GI Joe characters in that Smash Bros. style game they're working on? Because of the TFs, I figure they got something going on with Hasbro), perhaps a Smackdown or WM game that doesn't suck, a Gamecube Punch-Out! update, and a good, original Capcom fighter and I'll be mighty happy (revive All Stars!). Oh, back to games that I actually know are coming out and am reasonable sure are good... River City Ransom Advance Kingdom Hearts 2/Chain of Memories The Mega Man collection thingy The new Gamecube Mario game (platformer, I mean)

WWE has no interest in doing that.

The only thing I got out of that: Molly's from Minnesota now? Hm, I guess the "Holly" gimmick is basically completely dropped now save for the name.

I keep my 16-bit systems hooked up in our guest room, since I have the newer systems in my bedroom. Anyway, I bought a used N64 cheap from some people about to be ripped off trading it in to Gamestop and offered them more, got it, and took it home. Now, my RF switch for my Genesis broke a while ago, so I picked up one of those third-party versions that have a bunch of cords (N64, PS1/2, Saturn, SNES, Genesis, etc). I wanted to test the N64 but it only came with A/V cables, and I decided not to (at first) disconnect my Genesis which was hooked up to the same RF. I was curious if you could use the same RF to hook up systems at the same time. So I had both the Genesis and N64 hooked up to the same RF switch, and popped in Zelda (Ocarina of Time) to test it out. I turned it on...to see the Sega Enterprises info, some a little bit of the Zelda intro, the "Saaay-gaaaah!" thing, and more of the Zelda intro. The hell?! The picture and sound was alternating between the systems, even though I didn't turn the Genesis on. Hell--I didn't even have the Genesis plugged in!! I turned them both on and hooked up the N64 by itself...it worked great, but that's very odd. I guess the audio and picture mixed up and alternated, but how did the Genesis run without being plugged in? Just some leftover juice left in the system? Some power can travel from the N64 to the Genesis? I don't get it. Okay--the VPW2 question: where's the best place to get a copy and a converter? The main reason I got another N64 is because it looks like the WWE games are going to lick balls in comparison on the PS2 and I'd rather have a good old game than a blah new game.

This is the first I've heard of this movie being made. Why?! Oh right, Hollywood ran out of original ideas about ten years ago. Farrell should be perfect as Darren, since he's not funny at all.

Angelslayer: Not a bad choice of eps there--but you dare mention Season 1 and leave out Robot Holocaust? WHY?! Robot Monster's a good choice, but it really, really, really didn't even need any riffing. The movie is just that damn goofy. It's close to Plan 9 territory. Maybe the problem was that you were looking for sophmoric humor? That's only a relatively small portion of the type of humor they used. That's there, but there's also tons of pop culture references, some more obscure than others, running gags based on older episodes, references to movies by likes of Welles and Bergman, jokes based on movies that are pretty infamous in b-movie circles, etc. I don't blame you though if saw, oh, say Mighty Jack, Hellcats, The Crawling Hand, or Bloodlust.

Butthead picking his nose with Beavis' finger really cracked me up. My favorite is probably Nose Bleed, though. The Chrismas Special is great, though, and I never saw the Halloween one.

I'd stopped a tape that I was watching to get a snack, and when I came back I heard about this on some stupid show that focuses entirely on stupid Hollywood crap and personal lives of actors/actresses, like E! or Extra or something like that. Beyonce herself was commenting on it (and yes, she wanted people to pray that she gets the role. Self-centered, isn't she?). Funny thing is, when they were talking about it, they showed clips from...the last Superman movie. Yep, not the great original Christopher Reeves movie or the "cheesy but ok" Superman II. The cheap-o, ultra-bomb, shitacular, pantywaist propaganda piece Golan Globus turdburglar that Reeves helped write. Oh man...this one might be worse. I doubt the plot and script could be any worse, but it seems they'll completely lack the cast to squeeze any lemonade out of this, save for maybe Depp.

Okay, to be clear, they didn't put the videos even on the Time Life DVDs? Well, that saved me some money. The videos were half the show, and it isn't the same without them. However, they did put out some of the VHS tapes that had music videos on them.

OH-KAY!! Vega (claw) (Street Fighter) Ken Masters (Street Fighter) Iori Yagami (King of Fighters) M. Bison (Street Fighter) Sagat (Street Fighter) Mai Shiranui (Fatal Fury) Ky Kiske (Guilty Gear) Terry Bogard (Fatal Fury)

You mean "hispanic heritage," dumbass. WWE's plugging him as if he would be the "first Mexican WWE Champion." He's technically a native-born American.

Eddy and Chavo aren't "Mexican" either. They're Texans. Although they would be Mexicans if America didn't steal that land that's currently Texas.

Probably practicing the Mania finish. No, the Mania finish will include a Crossface reversal, kicking out after three headbutts, and a Pedigree with a long delay on the pin.

SFII, the first of the modern 2D fighters, had balance issues that were largely correcting in upgrades. Hardly anyone actually plays SFII anymore, but the major balance issues faded away towards the end of the series. By the time MK came around, the makers of that game should have learned that balance is pretty important for gameplay. How's Cage #2? He's Joe Average stats-wise, and his specials all suck. Yeah, bosses and a joke character are weaker/stronger than most of the pack. All of MK2's regular characters are supposed to be serious, non-boss fighters. Hence, there shouldn't be a major discrepency in strength among them. Gee, a boss character is stronger than most of the cast. Big shock there. Also, I made it pretty clear that I don't like SFA3 except for Karin, which is why I used Alpha 2 as an example, not Alpha 3. I've also already conceeded the newer Capcom games have balance issues, and major ones. Cable in MvC2 for instance. *shakes head* Good for you, but I've long gotten sick of Tekken anyway. *shrug* And Rain, and the classic characters, and the whole game being a huge glitchy mess... Trilogy blows.

Well, in Japan you can have it both ways. Of course, the fans there wouldn't chant things like those above (unless I'm wrong--the FMW sort very well might), and the way women are treated there by society in general is very in-sync with how they are treated in WWE. Yeah, Stevie and Vicky have great chemistry. 1) Well, it just said her mother was from Japan, so I'd say there's about a 95% chance of that. I've been trying to discern just what the hell Vicky's ethnicity is for quite a while, now. That would make sense...it's not too pronounced though, kinda like how Brandon Lee looked mainly caucasian.

The load times, the annoying wait just to SKIP MATCHES, the gameplay being still too much like the original game--all reasons no one else listed it. They're just like Revenge/World Tour/WM2000/NM, but better in a lot of ways. Those "fake wrestlers" were Japanese wrestlers with name changes, and sometimes some minor changers in looks/moves. How's that a flaw? Also, what bad glitches? The only glitches I encountered were the good kind. Yeah. Instead of the aeriels available being different whether your opponent is standing or laying down, you just select a set list that you have to use at the right time. That can be pretty annoying when a moonsault misses because it was the standing attack version. Except if you actually want to make more than one created wrestler, than the inability to easily set your stats to where you want to and the tedium that you have to go through to raise them is really, really, annoying. Of course, I'm like the only one here who thinks Here Comes the Pain sucks.

I disagree about the balance. In MK1 Cage was a complete joke and Lui was pretty much the best player character--which is sad if you can't balance 7 characters somewhat well. MKII--Jax and Mileena were head-and-shoulders above the rest, and Reptile was terrible. Tsung was horribly week, but the morphs and his throw made up for it. Those other games mostly have way more fighters and the balance discrepency is far less in most cases. Yeah, Zang and Dan are weaker than most fighters in Alpha and Akuma is the best, but that's supposed to be that way. Akuma was still toned down in his normal playable version, Zang always required a different approach but was never at "complete joke" level (his jabs and shorts are stronger than some fighters' heavy attacks, has an easy projectile counter, long range, although his throws were steadily toned down). Dan was meant to be a joke, of course. Checking out the SFA2 ranking chart in the Versus guide, comparing expert gamers fighting percentages using all the characters, if you take a look at the different charts, the rankings are all different. While Ken, Chun-Li, and Akuma are near the top of the chart (they're easiest to play as, big surprise). The majority of the chart is wildly different depending on where it came from, and the only ones extremely strong/weak are mainly special characters and joke character Dan. That seems to indicate to me that the balance is pretty damn good for most of the characters. You say that as if it is a good thing. Admittedly, the balance in MK3 isn't as off as the earlier games (from what I've played of it, at least), but in Trilogy...*shudder*.