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Deviant: I misread, nevermind. In the "Divas" videos, she's just one disposable one among others, and the Divas videos don't sell all that hot, in case you didn't know. Trish's solo DVD wasn't much of a success, so if Torrie got one by herself...I can't see her selling much more than 1/4 of Trish's. During the Playboy publicity crap, her constant appearances got people burned out on her, and when she'd come on TV ratings would decrease. I saw it myself in the long-term ratings breakdown reports of who adds/loses viewers. The characters that usually had a lot of attention put on them, including ol' Vinnie tended to draw viewers. Except...Torrie. Nobody gives a shit about her as a character. They want her to come on TV, strip, and go away. They have no emotional attachment to her "character" as they do a Lita or Trish. I'm sure she got money from the Playboy thing, and that amount was probably split between her and WWE, or WWE got a certain percentage. I don't find it as big a deal as you make it out to be. And the whole Playboy thing...the net gain of viewers, buyrates, ratings? JACK SHIT! Compared to the Divas people care about, she's completely expendable. A whole show of Torries isn't going to make money, it's just going to be money flushed down the crapper to pay a bunch of talentless bimbos. In other words, just a single, weekly non-touring show? Sure...have it in a big pink room.

I think it would be really stupid for them to go with the "battle rap" thing. Cena's a face now, and was only doing the battles as a heel tactic. He'd have nothing to gain out of this but a small chance at "legit cred" and maybe a little bit of extra heat. He stands a lot more to lose, though--being made to look like an ass and getting humilated, and the support of some rap/wrestling fans. Plus, I doubt any rappers with much "cred" want to verbally job to him. I'm expected if anything, this guy raps Cena to the ring at Mania.

I think he means that, sans commercials, the show clocks in at around 90 minutes. Usually about 6-8 minutes out of every half-hour of TV is commercials. At least that's what I've seen with cartoon specials and stuff which are released on home video.

The Rumble card looked good on paper, too...

I guess you figure that since Steph actually shows emotion, she has the advantage. Although at least Torrie doesn't ham it up like her.

Why? The Cat's been treated as a complete joke recently while Tajiri's been kept as a viable threat to the CW title (until now anyways). This is counterproductivity at it's most obvious. Vince likes Cat...that's the only reason.

I believe just the opposite. If you're a wrestler (as in, actually are one, not pretending to be one), have some role to actually warrant you being on TV, etc. I don't mind. Why is Torrie on TV, from a storyline standpoint? She's not a valet/girlfriend to any wrestlers right now (shock of shocks), she isn't a wrestler, she isn't really doing anything on TV that could be construed at work. What the hell is her job? Furthermore, Torrie looks pathetically generic so her looks do nothing for me, she's a horrible actress (but is slightly better than Linda and Stephammy), in the ring she's worse than Nidia. And ratings have shown if you put her on TV constantly as a recurring character, nobody gives a shit about her and flips the channel. She's no Trish or Lita, who actually have characters and reasons to be cheered. Torrie adds nothing to the show that any of the ho's recruited from the local strip clubs added. Although at least the ho's would be different for each show, thus keeping them from being overexposed. I see zero reason to keep Torrie on the payroll as a full-timer.

Why?! Why the fuck is Cat still employed? Bless you Cleveland for giving Cat the cold shoulder, though. *doesn't care* Sounds interesting... I hate Kidman. Why? So all this build to...Nidia vs. Noble? The hell?! *Couldn't care less* Rey/Chavo Sr. could be a decent S.E. segment, but I have zero interest in Kurt/Holly. Good idea that they're building up a match, but I'm guessing this means that the winner faces the champ (Eddy?) at WM, right? I guess it'd have to be Show or Angle unless Cena turns heel again or they wanna do face vs. face. Looks like an overall pointless show again.

EdwardKnoxII originally posted this...but anyway: Major Goldberg/Brock Angle Likely For No Way Out WMXX match looking more likely... It is expected that WWE will run a major angle involving Brock Lesnar and Goldberg at the No Way Out PPV on February 15th. This should set up a WrestleMania XX match between the two. The match has been rumored on and off for months. Credit: WrestlingObserver.com

Yeah. No offense to Tom, but this seemed to come out of nowhere. Who decided this exactly? There must have been something specific to trigger it. I think Rudo, like me, probably feels it would have a lot more effect if Unfuckwithable delivered the message instead.

Rue: And Sable...uh...with a legs-around-neck thingy on Torrie. Bischoff: That's a...reverse headscissors. Yeah. But Torrie seems to be taking full advantage of this situation, in this first-ever "I Cum" match. Wait--is Sable faking? No! No! Sable hits the big O! Torrie wins!

Huh? Most of the other folders have few posts in them, so the posts that are there are mainly relevant or at least not filled with so much post whoring that it's a problem. No need, IMO. How about in the Current Events folder or the General Chat folder? Never been to G.C., but they were already cracking down in C.E. recently to cut down on the fluff.

Huh? Most of the other folders have few posts in them, so the posts that are there are mainly relevant or at least not filled with so much post whoring that it's a problem. No need, IMO. I don't think so.

Well, the revised rules just went up. I assume you get one, final, post-whore Smackdown Spoilers thread, Choken. Enjoy it while you still can. Also, I was under the impression (by the title) that you actually went to the show and were contributing spoilers...that's REALLY annoying. *chokes you*

Well, at least your name isn't misleading. Don't know of a transcript, but here's a recap. http://www.1wrestling.com/news/newsline.asp?news=12896 The closest you get is: "During the introduction of the contestants (the show had a beauty pageant theme), Test and Torrie Wilson asked the contestants about their oral sex preferences, lesbian experiences and sexual positions."

I dub thee, the "Choken rule." Good idea. Sick of hearing about that stuff here. I assume that if it regards rumors that X guy is coming back to WWE, that's legal, though.

Did anything in particular prompt this?

Not in the slightest, but I'd say it's slightly better than almost all of the other women on that list who are currently on par with Gayda '02 as far as we know. And what is this about Torrie getting drunk and talking about things she probably shouldn't have? Was this an angle I missed, a Howard Stern appearance I missed or what? I have no idea what that's talking about. Girls Gone Wild PPV.

Kof EX 2 came out 2 months ago or so. I've had my copy for a long time. Where were you? The story actually ties in somewhat with KoF 2003. I was going by magazine release dates. The video game stores around here are somewhat lacking when it comes to lesser known GBA releases.

Silly, you don't hire good looking women who can wrestle reasonably well. You hire bimbos who have never wrestled in their life and probably have no interest in it, and then you have a mediocre female wrestler train them. Funny thing is, joshi girls are as much sex symbols as they are wrestlers a lot of the time. Okay, not girls like Shark, Aja, etc, but the petite, pretty babyfaces like Cutie. my point exactly, with women wanting equal independence and shit I am sure portraying them as athletic and yet still feminine and beautiful would be better than the bimbo portryal half of them get. I doubt it is a "portrayal" in Torrie's case (get drunk, talk about sucking dick; classy dame, that one), but in general, yeah, I see your point. That's what the big deal was supposed to be about Sunny. She was hot, and she'd take advantage of her sexuality, but she was smart and would lead guys by the nose. She was in control, not the guy. As opposed to Torrie "The guy I valet...I'm so confident he'll win that I'll fuck you if he loses" Wilson. Her entire character revolves around insatiable craving for male attention, regardless of how degrading she has to act for it.

Maybe I'm wrong, and Reasonable Doubt will bring in tons of new viewers, just like Master P did with WCW. Who will be in the new West Texas Rednecks? The APA and Funaki would be a good start, and maybe Kurt can dig out his old cowboy hat for the occasion.

Silly, you don't hire good looking women who can wrestle reasonably well. You hire bimbos who have never wrestled in their life and probably have no interest in it, and then you have a mediocre female wrestler train them. Funny thing is, joshi girls are as much sex symbols as they are wrestlers a lot of the time. Okay, not girls like Shark, Aja, etc, but the petite, pretty babyfaces like Cutie.

Who the hell is Proof and why should I care?

KoF EX2 = Mini-KoF 2000.

His character ALREADY isn't the same. When was the last time he broke any hearts, anyway? ...when he refused to become HHH's valet? When he had to say goodbye to Jeff? Okay, seriously--yeah, I don't get why they kept the same theme, but considering how bad a lot of the recent new themes are (they let Jim Johnston go, didn't they?), I'd rather the classic theme stay.