Rob E Dangerously

Steinbrenner - "I hope we meet in the World Series" Hicks - "Thanks" Steinbrenner - "Oops.. I mean.. I hope we meet at the World Series. When the Yankees are playing"

So.. what will ARod's number be in NY? I guess they won't unretire #3 for him

yeah.. New Jersey is what I was aiming for there

yeah.. doesn't really do much for the East though. I'd also cut down on the two-month long playoffs in the NBA. Do they really need 16 out of 30 teams in the playoffs?

well.. the Blue Jays are in the American League. Right?

How about this radical realignment of the NBA National Conference East- Atlanta, Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Washington Central- Chicago, Detroit, Houston, Milwaukee, Phoenix West- Golden State, Los Angeles Lakers, Portland, Sacramento, Seattle American Conference East - Charlotte, Miami, New Jersey, Orlando, Toronto Central - Cleveland, Indiana, Memphis, Minnesota, New Orleans West - Dallas, Denver, Los Angeles Clippers, San Antonio, Utah

And what would make the Ring champion more of a champion than Chris Byrd or John Ruiz? Even by the Ring rankings you cite, Chris Byrd is on the top of those rankings. (Unless the Ring just happens to change the rankings to put Vitali and Corrie Sanders 1 and 2, but we'd expect them to not be like a corrupt alphabet organization). It wouldn't surprise me that part of the reason why Corrie Sanders is getting so high in the rankings is due to corrupt organizations. Something that the Ring might be encouraging by trying to "painlessly" give a title out. And the presumably corrupt WBC too.

yeah.. the origins of the WBO are a bit shady and it's not on the same level as the Big 3. The WBO has some decent champions (Antonio Margarito, Joe Calzaghe, Acelino Freitas). Not to mention that Dariusz held the WBO title while he was the linear light-heavyweight champion. Although on the heavyweight side, most of the legit champs vacated the title (Bowe, Akinwande, Moorer, Mercer). Why Wlad would want to be around the WBO title, I don't know. The WBO title doesn't do much to help you career-wise. Who the hell is Lamon Brewster anyways?

BoxRec says that Wladimir Klitschko v. Lamon Brewster is for the WBO title.

if I recall correctly, Patterson's win made him the champ due to the lack of bodies that would sanction fights. Also, Patterson won an elimination bout with Hurricane Jackson that got him to the fight with Moore. Things were a bit less complicated then. Considering there were fewer legitimate considers in 1956. There may be a popular champ, but that depends on if Boxing can get more attention. Right now, they'd be better off to try and reach out to free TV for a fight or two and to try and build the sport. There's alot of young exciting fighters out there. But, it doesn't look like that'll happen. With Ruiz.. what's the big weakness? that he can't beat RJJ? Alot of people can't beat RJJ. Anyways, with the splinter champs. Ruiz and Byrd. Byrd has a more legitimate argument for why he should have gotten a shot at Lewis. Byrd might want to keep away from the Klitschkos, considering Vitali was beating him and Wlad kicked the shit out of him. And, I did hear Byrd had problems with Oquendo. As for the Ring crowning a champ. We'll see how much weight it carries. When it comes to titles, boxing would be better off to offically designate the WBF/IBA/IBC stuff as like A/AA titles, WBO could be AAA or AAAA. If Wladimir and Vitali held titles, would you insist that they fight each other to crown a linear champ?

Sanders beat Purrity. He also beat Al Cole, Bobby Czyz, and Bert Cooper. All four of those guys aren't really anything close to contenders. Cooper/Sanders was almost 10 years ago as well. Yes. Ring Magazine's rankings have been in existance nearly 80 years, and are the most reliable in the sport. They rank Sanders #3. Also, USA Today publishes monthly rankings. They state they're dropping Lewis and Jones next month, so Sanders is ranked fourth among the rest. What's the top 5 in the Ring right now? just asking Why should we? Sanders made Wlad his bitch. The fight wasn't anything near close. It was a slaughter. Yeah. But Wlad facing Sanders a second time wouldn't be quite the same. Considering the 10 year age difference between the two fighters and all. By YOUR ratings, which are based on records only, and don't take most recent bouts in consideration. Also, because they only use records, they can be distorted by a fighter facing guys with inflated records. and yet.. the fighters who compile inflated records aren't the ones going to the top. Weiiiird. The organizations NEVER rank the champions of other organizations. That's pretty much universal Oh yeah.. Sanders is #2 and #3 in those corrupt organizations rankings. There's some selling going on, no doubt. But, when it comes to the linear title. Do you expect anybody else to recongize the Klitschko/Sanders winner as the undisputed champion? Chris Byrd would have reason to dispute that. If you remember correctly, Ruiz beat the much older Holyfield. He lost the first fight. "Some may argue how could John Ruiz be ahead of David Tua who defeated him in 19 seconds, simple, that was an eon ago and has little relevance at this point in time." - ESB There was quite a POV that Ruiz won that first fight, which got him a rematch. "If anybody is the pariah of the Heavyweight division it is most certainly John Ruiz. His style is pure anathema to most viewers, more reminiscent of a root canal than entertainment. The 'Quiet Man's strategy is almost anti-boxing as it consists of jab and hold, jab and hold. Since his jab is fairly quick and he is successful at imposing himself on his opponent through a brawling/smothering style there is no reason to think he will change what has largely been very successful for him. Outside of his loss to the supremely talented Roy Jones Jr, Ruiz has not lost any of his last four fights against legitimate top ten Heavyweights. Nobody gave him a chance against Evander Holyfield and he won and draw the last two of their three fights (and one could argue he was robbed in the first fight). He was the underdog against Kirk Johnson and arose the victor. In his most recent fight against former Champion Hasim Rahman he stunk out the arena in terms of aesthetics but yet again won a fight most thought he would lose. This man has consistently been labeled a talentless bum and yet again and again he gets the job done despite his detractors. Though it can be difficult, one must look at John Ruiz objectively and realize he actually has more qualities than most would like to acknowledge. He is clearly durable, tough and willing to do whatever it takes to win. The speed of his jab is underrated and his right hand's power similarly so. The latter weapon rattled Johnson and Rahman a few times and even floored Evander Holyfield. The fact of the matter, though most do not want to admit it, is that John Ruiz is very difficult to defeat and most have no idea what to do to defeat him. Of course some weaknesses do exist as seen against Roy Jones. Ruiz is a terrible fighter when he has to stalk his opponent; against Jones he was reminiscent of a bull against a matador and had little ability to block off the ring. Additionally, Roy was intelligent enough not to stay right in front of Ruiz which most do again and again to their detriment. John Ruiz seems to struggle against fighters who use their angles properly, something Holyfield and Rahman seemed too slow to do and Johnson too inept. Many will proclaim I should be guillotined for placing Ruiz this high but viewed objectively its difficult not too. Like Wladimir he has lost a recent major fight in an embarrassing manner while previously defeating two top ten fighters. Unlike Wladimir Klitschko, Ruiz jumped right back into the mix against another top ten fighter in Hasim Rahman and garnered a victory, for that some degree of respect must be given despite his terribly boring and unpleasant style. As usual emotion wants this man out of the top ten altogether, but objectively he is getting the job done and that, however distasteful, is the bottom line. Some may argue how could John Ruiz be ahead of David Tua who defeated him in 19 seconds, simple, that was an eon ago and has little relevance at this point in time."- ESB And Ruiz became the champion after RJJ left the heavyweight division. And there's a simple way for him to be a champ. That's for somebody to beat him. But, he will not be the linear champion if he wins.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/heavyweight-rankings.htm I'd say that with the explanations, this is one of the better rankings out there

ya know.. when did Corrie Sanders drop the WBO title anyways? I noticed that on a few sources. I would have noticed it before, but ESPN doesn't regard them as a real organization on their rankings. Vitali/Sanders, is it for the WBC title?

and yet.. Corrie Sanders deserves a shot at the Ring Magazine title because he beat Wlad? Has Sanders beaten anybody other than Vlad? Even Ross Purritty beat Wlad. But, you don't see anybody rushing out to give him a title shot. Do you care to refer me to any boxing rankings that are better? Yet.. he's ranked above Sanders. Not to mention Ruiz beat Rahman, who beat Sanders. Tyson wouldn't have too tough of a time with Corrie Sanders either. Oh yeah, Sanders last fought in March 2003. Weeks after Tyson's last fight. why don't you match Sanders with Wladimir then? Well.. that fight was last March. And labeled as 'controversial' as well. Yet.. he's still above South African Superman, Corrie Sanders.. and that Wlad/McCline fight wasn't even 18 months ago. Wlad's considered the best contender at this time as well. And yet.. the Ring declaring a fight between Vitali Klitschko and Corrie Sanders makes them any more legit than those organizations? This might surprise you. But, overall, the champions of the three main organizations aren't too bad. The WBC comes out on top on how good their champs are, then the WBA and IBF. He is. He won a fight for the interim title. Roy Jones Jr left the heavyweight division. John Ruiz got promoted. I'm sure that Ruiz will lose eventually. Clearing up any problems. No doubt? because he beat Corrie Sanders? And what if Corrie Sanders wins? is there no doubt there? And what about the WBC's title fight? What's stopping him from facing Byrd right now? If anything, holding the WBO title will hurt his shot of getting a shot at the WBA or IBF champions. One interesting thing I noticed.. maybe giving Sanders a title fight with Vitali is inspired by the rankings of these organizations. Sanders is #3 in the WBA rankings, #2 in the WBC. Alphabet rankings are meaningless in the long run. I'm sticking with Boxrec's assessment. Sanders = #11 in the world

The fact of the matter is that a Vitali Klitschko/Corrie Sanders fight being for "Undisputed" title is a load of horseshit. Here's some heavyweights better than Sanders: Wladimir Klitschko, Chris Byrd (IBF champion), Mike Tyson, James Toney, Juan Carlos Gómez, Joe Mesi, David Tua, John Ruíz (WBA champion), Jameel McCline The only title a Klitschko/Sanders fight would be is the WBO title. (if that). The WBO title is a graveyard, title-wise. When it comes to the linear title. That'll be decided whenever the titles are unified, or if Lewis comes back and loses.

which would be news for Chris Byrd and John Ruiz.. and Ingemar Johansson

http://www.electionworld.org/ feel free to go though this to see who's winning between the liberals and conservatives.

Hey Bps Mesi or Juan Carlos Gomez, who's your pick? do you know who Gomez is?

Don Cherry?

That's not really saying much. Still.. it's fucked up.

Juan Ruiz? the cheap Mexican version of John Ruiz?

Al, if you have the time, go down a bit on the ratings.. they cover even the worst fighters. Butterbean is #141 Don Tucker is ranked the lowest, at #992

Gomez and Toney get rated high on what they did in lower divisions. Same with RJJ when he was a heavyweight. Right now, Gomez would be #2 in the Cruiserweight ratings based on points, Toney would be #1. Gomez will naturally be ranked high, considering he's 37-0. The one interesting thing in Boxing is the consistant themes of southpaws being held down and the huge amounts of foreign fighters. Gomez is a southpaw, Thomas Damgaard is a southpaw, so is Joe Calzaghe and soon enough, some of the top fighters will be from the former Soviet republics.

The top 15, according to BoxRec.com http://www.boxrec.com/ratings.php 1. Wladimir Klitschko 2. Byrd (IBF Champion) 3. Tyson 4. Vitali 5. Toney 6. Juan Carlos Gomez 7. Joe Mesi 8. David Tua 9. John Ruiz (WBA Heavyweight Champion, defeated Rahman) 10. Jameel McCline 11. Corrie Sanders (WBO Champion) 12. Andrew Golota 13. Kirk Johnson 14. Dominick Quinn 15. Evander Holyfield Rahman is #25, below such guys as Atilla "The Hun" Levin The undefeateds in the top 30: Gomez, Mesi and Quinn. Audley Harrison is #31 and 14-0. I'd personally match Wlad or Vitali against Byrd for the title. And if Byrd can't be secured, then put one of the Klitschkos against Juan Carlos Gomez

"Hmm.. sounds plausible"