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  1. The Dames7: hey mike, can I talk to you for a second?

    McM cOmPuT: Sure,

    McM cOmPuT: Whats up?

    The Dames7: I've been out of the loop for quite some time as I'm sure you know

    The Dames7: I dont post anywhere really, I've moved on with my life, you know what I mean

    McM cOmPuT: I know, I have done the same until recently. Unfortunately.

    The Dames7: so I find out a few days ago that there's been a takeover at TSM, my old board and everyone was upset about the way things went down

    The Dames7: and I've heard their side of the story and I'd like to hear yours, if you dont mind.

    The Dames7: the reason why I ask is because TSM meant a lot to me and I may not be around now, but I have an interest in keeping it alive if possible.

    McM cOmPuT: do you have an account on the forums? I can fwd you what I have sent to a few others,

    McM cOmPuT: I have explained my self several times and its getting old, no offense to you.

    The Dames7: well, keep in mind that is the first time that I am speaking to you.

    The Dames7: I have people asking me why things are going out of control

    The Dames7: and I'd like to know exactly what is going on and what can be done about it.

    McM cOmPuT: Well if you are talking with any of the previous staff, granted some i still trust and would talk to, I am sure they have called me every other word in the dictionary.

    The Dames7: I'm not interested in anyone's feelings, Mike, I want facts, what happened.

    The Dames7: we can figure out who's upset later.

    McM cOmPuT: k,

    McM cOmPuT: month ago, lenna came to me wanting to purchase the forums (its that time of the year again).

    The Dames7: when is the contract up

    McM cOmPuT: I laughed, brushed it off, and told the staff I wouldn't consider an offer like that legit.

    McM cOmPuT: contracts got 18 more months, domain name expires on April 11th every year.

    The Dames7: what kind of an offer did she make you the first time

    McM cOmPuT: I I didn't even listen to her the first time.

    The Dames7: do you know who this person is? Leena?

    McM cOmPuT: few weeks later she came back and said she was serious, we talk a bit more and I could tell it was a legit offer as she overnighted a money order

    McM cOmPuT: I know the person she is, she is crazy and moody.

    The Dames7: so did you actually receive the money order?

    McM cOmPuT: Yea, clear as cash.

    The Dames7: yes, this is someone that I had issues with for many years. I believe you and I had talked about how often she was hacking the forums.

    McM cOmPuT: no paypal, it was straight up legit.

    The Dames7: ok. and what happened once you received the payment

    McM cOmPuT: on the hacking forums, I know she got blamed for that and several other things, but I never found anything but the arcade hacking legit.

    McM cOmPuT: We are a large forum and always have other sites in china and locally trying to do things,

    McM cOmPuT: Ah,

    McM cOmPuT: and the password thing on someones account.

    McM cOmPuT: forgot about that too.

    The Dames7: Mike, not to get away from the point, but you and I spoke about her and why she was locked out for a reason.

    The Dames7: but either way, what happened then

    McM cOmPuT: I know, I made a mistake picking Leena for sure.

    McM cOmPuT: I have told everyone that and she also agreed it wasn't the right move

    McM cOmPuT: They didn't accept me saying I made a big mistake and I realize that. They just continued to bash.

    The Dames7: wait a second, lets step back

    McM cOmPuT: k,

    The Dames7: so you accepted the payment and then did what

    The Dames7: made Leena the admin?

    McM cOmPuT: She became admin.

    The Dames7: demodded everyone, what

    McM cOmPuT: correct,

    The Dames7: did she do that or did you

    McM cOmPuT: I had to remove the admin accts since and admin can't de admin a super admin

    The Dames7: I see, I remember that.

    The Dames7: ok, so then everyone gets upset. Do you understand why they were upset?

    McM cOmPuT: She changed alot of members around, banned some of the staff I think,

    McM cOmPuT: I understood why there were upset to begin with, and have appologized and admitted MY mistake,

    McM cOmPuT: I have said countless times, I'd go back and un-do things, but life doesn't work that way.

    The Dames7: I understand that.

    The Dames7: but think about it from their perspective.

    The Dames7: if someone repossess your car because you havent made your payment, that sucks.

    The Dames7: if someone repossesses your car because your neighbor bought it for more money, thats fucked up.

    The Dames7: why didn't you give them a chance to match the offer?

    The Dames7: do you think they wouldn't have?

    McM cOmPuT: Honestly, because I didn't think Leena was serious first off.

    McM cOmPuT: second, I have gotten PMs & IMs saying the current staff was a clique and if you weren't their friends you had to watch your back.

    The Dames7: so once you received the money order, before you cashed it, you didnt think about asking if they'd match or out bid you then?

    McM cOmPuT: Nope, They were a month past the payment date.

    McM cOmPuT: Granted, it did come up in conversation, but no actions were ever made or asking for my address to mail a check.

    The Dames7: Mike, you barely post and you're mainly in charge of the server. Why would you have to worry about "watching your back"

    The Dames7: none of them pose a threat to you

    McM cOmPuT: Traffic has decreased significantly since Feb 2008

    McM cOmPuT: That was my other issue,

    The Dames7: Mike, this is bound to happen.

    McM cOmPuT: i had brought it up to them time to time about bannings being made for no reason, but nothing seemed to change.

    The Dames7: people get banned for reasons

    The Dames7: about the traffic, listen

    McM cOmPuT: 39137 unique visitors in March 2008

    The Dames7: the board is a small community, a community going on almost 7 years or more and counting

    The Dames7: and as people grow up and get busier, they have less time

    McM cOmPuT: 23645 in Feb 2009

    The Dames7: Mike, stop giving me numbers, I dont care.

    The Dames7: I'm telling you why this is happening.

    McM cOmPuT: Ok, well that administration came in to power about the same time.

    The Dames7: TSM is not going to grow very much more than what it is now

    McM cOmPuT: In all the years of history, it has never seen a drop that sharp over time.

    The Dames7: it is a niche community

    The Dames7: people grow up

    The Dames7: stop watching wrestling

    The Dames7: have families

    The Dames7: have jobs

    McM cOmPuT: I realize that, but shrinking by a third nearly?

    The Dames7: fine, I'll concede a point for the moment, the traffic was less than before.

    McM cOmPuT: I am apart of other forums and also have friends who run others and thats just unheard of. Something is wrong, not people growing up,

    The Dames7: there's many reasons for that, but either way, the next thing that happened is that people starting having issues with their private messages.

    The Dames7: can you tell me more about that?

    McM cOmPuT: Yes,

    McM cOmPuT: 500+ PMs were sent out from a few mod/admin accounts.

    McM cOmPuT: Is that spamming?

    The Dames7: Mike, spamming is more like an automatic email, a form email

    The Dames7: something with viruses or harmful things to your computer

    McM cOmPuT: Lol, no.

    The Dames7: these people were extending an invitation, as far as I was told

    McM cOmPuT: Spam is unsolicited emails or PMs advertising something else.

    The Dames7: people that they knew, not strangers.

    McM cOmPuT: 500+ PMs over the course of a few hours is not invites.

    The Dames7: and where is the rule about no spamming

    McM cOmPuT: its copy and paste all the members.

    McM cOmPuT: #4.

    McM cOmPuT: spamming equals banning.

    The Dames7: You realize that we wrote those rules, right?

    McM cOmPuT: Yes,

    McM cOmPuT: Simple question if someone told you that 4 accoutns on the forums sent out 500+PMs what would you call that?

    The Dames7: if someone told me that the forums moderators or administrators did that, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

    The Dames7: a standard member, yes.

    McM cOmPuT: Lol, ok, well once difference between us then.

    McM cOmPuT: Second they were changing words in topics and their titles and pulling stuff from the admin folder in public view.

    McM cOmPuT: Whats that called?

    The Dames7: Mike, why do you have a problem with the way we run our board?

    The Dames7: it seems as if you are doing this out of an emotional reaction to the backlash.

    McM cOmPuT: 500PMs for another forum, regardless of the forum you visit is spam

    McM cOmPuT: and you would get banned for it.

    McM cOmPuT: Try it.

    McM cOmPuT: What do you call the childish rewording and moving topics from admin folder to public view/

    The Dames7: accountability.

    The Dames7: people want to know whats going on and they dont want to be kept in the dark.

    McM cOmPuT: So then why did we ever have a private forum?

    McM cOmPuT: Look I really am not sure where you are headed with things, I know we don't see eye to eye on some things.

    The Dames7: I just want to know the facts.

    The Dames7: because now, it seems as if everyone is leaving the board

    The Dames7: and now you won't have any traffic.

    McM cOmPuT: Lol, thats not true.

    The Dames7: well, you're going to have a lot less than before it seems.

    McM cOmPuT: If that be the case, then it is and I can't do anything about it.

    The Dames7: so what happens now

    The Dames7: is she still in charge

    McM cOmPuT: I have said all i can say to the previous staff and just get trash talk from them, both on forums and AIM

    The Dames7: I'm sure you won't have to say much more to them soon enough.

    The Dames7: you've upset a lot of people

    The Dames7: I still dont think you get why

    McM cOmPuT: Nope Leena is not an admin or mod.

    The Dames7: ok, so who is in charge now

    McM cOmPuT: That'd be me and a few others that remained.

    McM cOmPuT: I am in talks with two people who are wanting to buy the forum out.

    The Dames7: I read that there was some interest in purchasing the archived folders. Have you heard anything about that

    McM cOmPuT: We both know I am not an forum admin type guy, and don't want to remain admin, but If the other two deals fall through then I will have to go to plan b

    McM cOmPuT: Was the archived thing the efed boards?

    The Dames7: no, it is not.

    The Dames7: it is the entire forum.

    McM cOmPuT: DubQ?

    The Dames7: I dont know exactly who or what

    McM cOmPuT: I think its him, that how he approached me first, and wanted to move the site off the server.

    The Dames7: is that possible

    The Dames7: I read somewhere that the entire forums is only about 9 gigs large

    The Dames7: is that right

    McM cOmPuT: Yes, however you got a few other considerations I don't think people realize...

    McM cOmPuT: it does up to almost 100Gb in traffic a month and the logs for the forums are 100-250Mb/day

    McM cOmPuT: so yes while the post/topics may only be that big it still takes a monester truck to handle the traffic.

    McM cOmPuT: I know you understand this from years ago.

    The Dames7: Ok...but if we purchase the archives and make them read only, not add any new posts to it, it shouldn't be anymore than 9 gigs of storage, no?

    McM cOmPuT: Here are the problems,

    McM cOmPuT: Yes, thats all the storage you need,

    McM cOmPuT: BUT if you have 100GB/month of traffic going out, thats a lot of traffic.

    The Dames7: there won't be any traffic at all.

    McM cOmPuT: Another problem is you may remember this in the old days.

    The Dames7: it'll be text.

    McM cOmPuT: It requries CPU power to process things from the database.

    The Dames7: lets say that I had another server, lets say that I owned one.

    The Dames7: how would I take those 9 gigs and put them on my server.

    McM cOmPuT: If you are talking about archiving it somewhere in black & white

    McM cOmPuT: and not many people using it, you could get away with a cheap hosting plan, yes

    The Dames7: imagine if we store it on a hard drive never to be added to again

    McM cOmPuT: Does that make sense?

    The Dames7: dont worry about the hosting at all

    The Dames7: I'm asking about the actual raw data itself

    The Dames7: the 9 gigs that the forums take up, I could put on my home computer

    The Dames7: can't you just burn that onto a dvd or bluray?

    The Dames7: or put on a flash drive or something like that?

    McM cOmPuT: lol, no/

    McM cOmPuT: Its a MySQL database.

    McM cOmPuT: Not txt files, PDFs or word documents.

    McM cOmPuT: Its not pretty either, like the site makes it.

    McM cOmPuT: By no means would i hand that over either.

    The Dames7: I dont want the program

    McM cOmPuT: I am in a contract with the server, and have told DubQ if we did anything I would need to buy out the contract and close it.

    The Dames7: I just want the actual text that people wrote

    The Dames7: how can that be done

    The Dames7: I dont need it to look pretty

    McM cOmPuT: I will not give out the database, period. Unless the contract is paid out.

    The Dames7: I'm not asking about the database

    McM cOmPuT: There would be nothing keeping someone from downloading IPB illegally and uploading it, turning it on and having the member database.

    The Dames7: I'm asking the posts, what people wrote.

    The Dames7: I dont want IPB at all.

    McM cOmPuT: There is no way to archive just the post that I am aware of.

    The Dames7: Mike, when I crashed the board many years ago, do you remember this? we made a back up at the time?

    McM cOmPuT: Yes, It a database.

    McM cOmPuT: Its not readable.

    McM cOmPuT: I don't know how to explain that.

    McM cOmPuT: There is no file you can open in word and see the post.

    McM cOmPuT: Its a database, with tables and rows.

    McM cOmPuT: If its close to anything its like excel, not word

    McM cOmPuT: I am not trying to be a pain, or put you off, but does that make sense?

    The Dames7: I'm trying to understand.

    McM cOmPuT: let me get a query, hold on

    McM cOmPuT: Querys is how DBs work

    The Dames7: dont bother Mike, you'll just confuse me and I dont want to get off track

    The Dames7: what happens now.

    McM cOmPuT: ok,

    The Dames7: you're waiting to see who offers to buy the contract?

    McM cOmPuT: Yes, with that. I would be out of TSM totally.

    McM cOmPuT: no more server on my side, and TSM at full control of someone else.

    The Dames7: so when Leena bought it from you, you were supposed to stay out of the way entirely?

    McM cOmPuT: Nope, it was the same deal the previous staff had.

    McM cOmPuT: 50/50

    The Dames7: and you're not looking for that deal now

    McM cOmPuT: No,

    McM cOmPuT: honestly, we both no I just need to be out of the loop.

    McM cOmPuT: The only reason TSM has been around this long is because multiple people tied to the server and ownership

    The Dames7: here's the problem Mike

    McM cOmPuT: After all this mess and seeing how much i was trash talked and talked behind my back, I just need out

    The Dames7: you really offended a lot of the people with your actions and no one wants to do business with you

    The Dames7: so it seems like you're going to have an empty server and not get paid anything pretty soon. a lot of people are leaving.

    McM cOmPuT: Well if thats what happens, then so be it,

    McM cOmPuT: what are you saying I should do?

    McM cOmPuT: let everyone back on and split the server payments again?

    The Dames7: I can't tell you what to do

    The Dames7: its yours to do what you wish

    The Dames7: I just wanted to know what was going on

    The Dames7: but I think you really need to work on your people skills, Mike.

    The Dames7: you rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.

    The Dames7: and a lot of this could have been avoided if you just talked to people, rationally.

    McM cOmPuT: I understand all that, and when I came in the chatroom that day, they were not rationally.

    The Dames7: well, you should have expected an angry mob

    McM cOmPuT: the chat was moving so fast, they were just ignoring what I said.

    McM cOmPuT: lol,

    The Dames7: well, considering half the things you say dont make sense and go over peoples head, its hard to understand sometimes.

    The Dames7: we aren't technical people

    The Dames7: I read that chat

    The Dames7: and it really seems as if you care more about traffic and making money than alienating everyone providing the traffic and paying you money.

    The Dames7: and there's no coming back from that.

    The Dames7: if you can find someone to pay you what you're looking for, congratulations.

    The Dames7: but I think at this point, everyone is done.

    McM cOmPuT: ok,

    The Dames7: try to learn from it and move on.

    McM cOmPuT: I am deff moving on.

    McM cOmPuT: Thanks for the talk,

    The Dames7: It was good doing business with you Mike.

  2. Is there any proof that Kreski came up with most (all?) of the Love Triangle?


    Now that you mention it, this was posted in the blog of one of WWE's creative members a while back.


    As I understand it, Brian [Gewirtz] is the guy behind virtually all of The Rock's insanely awesome promos from 2000 or so on, which rocked the house. As pretty much the only person in the company with a background in Hollywood (now that David Lagana is no longer on the team), Brian's also an invaluable source for quality storytelling. He was the guy behind the HHH-Angle-Stephanie soap opera in 2000 that was absolutely awesome before it ended abruptly ...




    Dunno how true all that is, since, IIRC, he was on the team about 2 years or so after Kreski's run ended.


    When I met Gerwirtz in 2000, it was at WWF NY in Times Square the night that the "kiss" angle between Kurt Angle & Steph was supposed to air on Smackdown and I remember that he was very specific in stating that he wanted to gauge the reaction in the room that night because he wrote that segment. I don't know if he wrote the entire thing, but at least that scene was his.


  3. And as far as contrived spots, and "tower of doom" spot in ROH/TNA multiman matches where 16 people all hit some sort of suplex/power bomb/whatthefuckever at the exact same time,

    The most overdone sequence in wrestling is the cradle reversal series first seen in the Guerrero/Malenko. It was a unique at the time and was great, but since then you see it in every other Indy match out there and it comes off like an exercise in self-congratulatory masturbation over the fact you can choreograph a sequence first seen almost 15 years ago.


    The most contrived sequence is another one you see a lot of in Indy matches, usually between spot monkeys, where one guy will sweep the legs of the other guy and go for the cover but then roll himself off, get up, and then the other guy will do the sweep/roll off part, and then they'll both kip up and stare at each other while the fans clap like obedient Pavlovian dogs.


    I hate that too.


    This seriously happened at every single indy show I went to circa 2001 to 2004, which is why I dubbed it the "INDY APPLAUSE STANCE~!" in my old reviews.

    Low Ki and the Amazing Red, I look at YOU.


  4. When Ben time skipped forward, he went to the hotel, asked what date it was and was told by the front receptionist when he saw Sayid on the TV. How could he have put a hit on her during that time if he skipped all of it?

  5. I just took a look at the last few years figures. It looks like Lionsgate is improving, it finished 8th last year, so it's moved up and this is the highest percentage market share they've ever had. The top 6 all have established franchises though and it looks like Lionsgate is doing fine given the fact that their main franchise (Saw) is limited in how much revenue it can bring since it doesn't cut through a broad variety of audiences and is rated R.

  6. The ovation for Benoit I believe is overblown. Flair namedropped Benoit as well as many other Horsemen. Perhaps Dames can drop in and provide some clarificiation.


    It definitely wasn't overblown. It was quite possibly the weirdest pop I've ever heard because it was....delayed.


    He dropped the name...the crowd kinda gasped for a sec, collectively...and then there was a slow, building pop that rivaled everyone else who was there that night, including the Rock & Flair. Very, very surreal.



  7. The problem with Kiniski is they blew the spot at the end. He had to get involved because the former champ usually needed some sort of out or controversy. As a referee, well, he was a much greater wrestler.


    The blown spot at the end isn't the spot that bothers me in the context of that match. Especially at the time, with kayfabe strong, this stands out to me.


    There's a moment where Race is on offense and Flair is in the corner and Kiniski tries to get Race off by holding his arms back, essentially giving Flair a free hit and looking extremely partisan. I'm surprised people didn't have a fit for that back then.



  8. Dames sent Big Dave this video. well worth sharing:




    Capoeira is a flashy style of fighting based largely on break dancing. Unfortunately for this guy, there's more to winning a fight than what we've been taught by Michael Jackson music videos and West Side Story. Next time he'll focus less on dancing and more on punching.



    PWNED!!! As if there was going to be any doubt.


    I didn't send him the video...it was on his page and I emailed him to let him know that's not a legit video, that's raw footage from the movie Never Back Down.


    Where did you guys see that I contributed this video??