Ultimo Dugas

Brock Lesnar & Undertaker vs. F.B.I. in a handicap match Handicap for the F.B.I at least.

Welcome to the Gambling Thread for WWE Judgement Day! The return of the Intercontinetal Title! YES! I was considering from here on out referring to the Big Gold Belt as the Intercontinetal Title, but I don't have to now. Considering we don't have a full list of entrants into the IC Battle Royale, betting on that match is optional as is betting on the Bikini Contest because thats really really trivial. Remember also now, that the NEW~! Gambling Odds system is in place, as myself and ArmyEye (well ok, mostly ArmyEye) have finally worked out the kinks in the spreadsheet (aka my not having MS Office). Perhaps now someone can overthrow Kotzenjunge. Because the newbies are being given more money now, I will add $500 to everyone's total to even things out. Also I have decided that by default ArmyEye gets a spot for all his help, hey its the very least I could do. Here are the current standings: 1-Kotzenjunge 4400 2-Canadian Chris 3650 3-NaturalBornThriller4:20 3625 4-Space_Cowboy 3600 5-Canadian Chick 3300 6-TheOriginalOrangeGoblin 3200 7-The Tino Standard 3100 8-Kingpk 3050 9-tpww7 3050 10-Sandman9000 3000 11-Ultimo_Dragon 2750 12-the r-train 2750 13-teke184 2750 14-I’m That Damn Zzzzz 2650 15-Bischoff Is God!!! 2550 16-Marvinisalunatic 2500 17-African American 2350 18-Hollywood Spike Jenkins 2350 19-DeputyHawk 2300 20-Anglesault 2150 21-creativename 1900 22-chave 1850 23-Bravesfan 1700 24-MrZsasz 1500 25-AM The Kid 1500 26-Secret Agent 1500 27-Zack Malibu 1450 28-EricDraven 1450 29-Showstoppa Icon 1400 30-Spaceman Spiff 1350 31-the pinjockey 1350 32-TheHulkster 1175 33-Lonewolf218 1150 34-Lightning Flik 1100 35-ViciousFish 1100 36-ArmyEye 1000 37-doink 950 The Rules are as follows: 1--You can now make bets as high as you want. However, you must bet whole numbers. 2--You have to bet at least $800 on each show to avoid sandbagging. If you have less than $800, you must bet all the money you have. 3--The way betting works now is like this: If the odds on a wrestler are POSITIVE (+), the number represents the amount of money you can win if you bet $100 on him. Example - If you bet $100 on Nash (+155) to win his match, you get back $155 if he wins. If you risk $200, you stand to win $310. Bet $500, you can win $775, etc. If the odds are NEGATIVE (-), the number represents the amount of money you must bet to win back $100. Example - You bet $175 on Triple H (-175) to win, you stand to win $100 (and lose your bet of $175 if Triple H loses). If you bet $350, you can win $200. Bet $1,000 on him, you can win about $570, etc. 3--You must bet on at least 5 matches on the card. 4--To place your bets, simply cut & paste from the card below and who and how much you're gambling under the match. 5--No-contests, Double DQs, double count-outs, time-limit draws etc result in a no win/no lose situation and negate the bet. 6--Anyone who drops down to $0 in the bank is not allowed back in – they must live with the stigma of being a stupid wrestling fan until the day they die. 7--Betting will be closed 30-60 minutes before the PPV, but you may edit your bets in the thread up until that time. Anyone caught betting after that time will be disqualified and will not be allowed in the gambling game afterwards. 9--Now that we have a spreadsheet to do the calculating for us I will allow in more newbies, this month I'll start with 10 and see how it goes from there. As a newbie you get $1000 betting money that you may distribute around the card freely, as long as you bet at least 5 matches. Here is the card for WWE Judgement Day: WWE Title Stretcher Match Brock Lesnar (-450) © vs. The Big Show (+325) World Heavyweight Title Match Triple H © (-175) vs. Kevin Nash (+155) WWE Tag Team Titles Ladder Match Team Angle (-200) © vs. Los Guerreros (+170) WWE Intercontinental(!) Title Battle Royale Confirmed Entrants: Christian, Rob Van Dam, Kane, Test, Lance Storm, Chris Jericho, Goldust, Booker T (All are +250, unless you decide to bet on someone not listed, then the bet is +500) Mr. America (-220) vs. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (+180) Rhyno, Chris Benoit, and Brian "Spanky" Kendrick (-110) vs. John Cena, Chuck Palumbo, and Johnny Stamboli (+100) La Resistance (-130) vs. Test and Scott Steiner (+110) Fatal Four Way Women's Title Match Jazz (+140) © vs. Victoria (+250) vs. Trish Stratus (+170) vs. Jacqueline (+500....why? Molly would do so much better, but I guess they need another face to even it out) Bikini Contest Torrie Wilson (+100) vs. Sable (-110) Here are my picks: WWE Title Stretcher Match Brock Lesnar (-450) © vs. The Big Show (+325) Winner: Brock Lesnar; $450 World Heavyweight Title Match Triple H © (-175) vs. Kevin Nash (+155) Winner: Triple H; $350 WWE Tag Team Titles Ladder Match Team Angle (-200) © vs. Los Guerreros (+170) Winner: Team Angle; $400 WWE Intercontinental(!) Title Battle Royale Confirmed Entrants: Christian, Rob Van Dam, Kane, Test, Lance Storm, Chris Jericho, Goldust, Booker T (All are +250, unless you decide to bet on someone not listed, then the bet is +500) Winner: Rob Van Dam; $200 Mr. America (-220) vs. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (+180) Winner: Mr. America; $220 Rhyno, Chris Benoit, and Brian "Spanky" Kendrick (-110) vs. John Cena, Chuck Palumbo, and Johnny Stamboli (+100) Winner: Rhyno, Chris Benoit, and Brian "Spanky" Kendrick; $220 La Resistance (-130) vs. Test and Scott Steiner (+110) Winner: La Resistance; $260 Fatal Four Way Women's Title Match Jazz (+140) © vs. Victoria (+250) vs. Trish Stratus (+170) vs. Jacqueline (+500....why? Molly would do so much better, but I guess they need another face to even it out) Winner: Jazz; $100 Bikini Contest Torrie Wilson (+100) vs. Sable (-110) Winner: Torrie Wilson; $100 As always, and I expect a few more this time around, comments and suggestions are welcome. Please note that the new system is experimental and may require tweaking of the rules to make it fair. Anyways, now that the ranks are being opened up a bit hopefully we can get a decent amount of gamblers in here. Alright everyone, lets see some bets! EDIT: Edited the rules.

No sorry, I am lazy and this spreadsheet thing is tedious. It'll be up soon enough.

Then you might as well never watch another movie again, because even if it didn't live up to your expectations, it is better than most shit thats been coming out.

Yeah, but it will be one we don't care about.

I want it back with the 24/7 rule, because I found those segments to be entertaining, not because the Hardcore title was all that harcore or prestigious.

Yes you can creativename, you were lucky to escape my axe as I was removing some dead weight recently. But, according to my records, I didn't cut you so you can start gambling again, yes.

According to my reference point for all things, EWR, nothing can stop the business from going into a slump.

Oh, yeah I can definately see how that would pose a problem.

It is kind of a gray area Spiff. But since we were right, and there was a replacement (Tajiri), then the bets will still be counted. Now to see the spreadsheet in action...

Memphis is the man. I find that it be great when he posts those posts. I don't watch Puro either (although I should). I agree that the justice/rule thing is overused and not that funny.

I see his improvement...but I don't buy him as a top contender. As a person who only follows TNA via the Internet, I can safely say that Gilberti has improved somewhat. But he's not World Title material yet. AJ and/or Raven should have been the person to beat Jarrett, and after the giant beating he took at the hands of half of the TNA roster, Gilberti won't be seen as much of a threat. Its also hurting them not to even have Raven on the show last week, as he is about the most over guy on the roster, judging from the crowd reaction when he lost.

If you want to change if before the PPV go ahead. But considering there's fair knowledge that some teamates could be changed then thats the risk you're taking. If its a situation where replacement partners are picked that didn't seem likely then perhaps I would allow the bet to be negated.

Why did you bother puting up a goodbye thread when you only had one post previous to this?

My bad JotW. I was editing the rules alot yesterday.

Also because you know, the Japanese in general respect the wrestlers more. Its just not like the WWE to give a great deal of respect to big name foreign wrestlers.

It has been done, these changes have been made.

I like that idea, a minumum amount of matches to bet on. Perhaps 3 matches?

Ok I figured this would be a problem...Either newbies should start with 1000 or I should make it so you don't have to bet on every match. What do you guys want?

Damn I could've sworn I got it fixed, I'll edit it now.

I'm not watching it, nor do I suggest any of you do. Unless you're really hoping for an on screen appearance by Ultimo Dragon of course. Then it is acceptable.

If the WWE would decide they wanted a great cruiserweight division they could have it. They have so many talented cruiserweights yet they won't push them. I think the IC belt would benefit most from being on RAW, considering we all know the World Title won't be going to anyone we'd like to see win it.

I know how you feel man. Back in the 7th grade my house was robbed, but luckily my aunt showed up during the robbery. She chased them down in her car, and they were all caught. Apparently they had been watching our house to know when we left cause our neighbors said they showed up about 5 minutes after we had left that morning. They took their sweet time too, all of our shit was slowly taken apart and stacked, ready to be stolen. We were lucky.

Hurricane isn't being held down at all really. He is one of the few people on RAW who is getting a noticeable push.

Its ok, but like everyone else said its just like some sort of mixture of Dew and orange soda, with the orange soda being the dominant taste.