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There may have been one earlier than the 87 card. A lot of people out there (perhaps even Meltzer) claim JYD won the first, so there may have been another Rumble held in St. Louis maybe in 86.

I imagine the WWE will pick him up eventually, even if it's a one-spot for the ECW show. Here's a quote from the most recent Observer, which I received today: "They are looking at reviving some old ECW rivalries but the idea for the matches is to have the guys wrestle who can put on good matches, and not to do an old-timers thing like a Memphis or Carolinas nostalgia show. The feeling is if you have bad matches with guys who are past their prime, while people may accept it anyway, many will rip the bad wrestling after the fact. It will kill the market for another show. It is being put together with the idea of building for a second show at some point, just as the 6/10 Shane Douglas show in Philadelphia is being put together with the idea to then take the concept on tour, since talks of TNA doing house shows are non-existant... There will be appearances by as many ex-ECW wrestlers as they can find, in some form or fashion, although there are also a few ex-ECW stars who, for whatever reason, there is very little interest in using, with Johnny Grunge of Public Enemy perhaps the most notable." Interesting to note is that Melzer lists RVD, Tazz, New Jack, and even Shane Douglas as guys the WWE might be interested in using - if only to make a cameo on the show. Mysterio vs. Psychosis or Juventud is rumored to take place as well as a possible Tajiri vs. Super Crazy match. The WWE guys on roster who may participate in matches include Lance Storm, the Dudleys, Dreamer, Benoit, Eddie, Spike, Simon Dean, Dawn Marie, Jericho, Heyman, Snow, Rhyno (yes, Rhyno), Psychosis, Malenko, and Nunzio. They are also trying to bring in Masato Tanaka for the show. And, last I heard, Terry Funk was working both the WWE and the Douglas event.

Carolina Championship Wrestling Lenoir, NC Mulberry Recreation Center April 9, 2005 The show began with the singing of the National Anthem by a young female local. I think she was nervous because more than a few words were left out. The Fabulous Mr. Franklin came out and put a $10,000 bounty on Dusty Rhodes for the attack he sustained the previous month at the hands of Rhodes and Mick Foley. Tommy Gunn pinned Jason Jones at 4:13 with a powerbomb. Gunn came out to AC/DC while Jones had Velvet Revolver as his theme music. Chief Jay Eagle & Brad Tomahawk defeated Jason King & Mike Lee at 9:45 when Tomahawk pinned King with a sunset flip after Eagle prevented Lee from blocking the move Brad Anderson pinned Bobby Fulton at 12:18 with a boot to the mid section and a roll up. Prior to the bout, Fulton – who came out to ZZ Top’s “Sharp Dressed Man” and formerly one half of the Fantastics – cut a heel promo on the crowd. Anderson brought out a pair of his dad’s boots (Gene Anderson), which hung from one of the ring posts for the duration of the match. George South Jr. (sub. for George South) defeated the Masked Superstar via disqualification at 8:01 when Superstar pulled the referee in front of South; the match was surprisingly rough for South as he was thrown out of the ring, into the scaffold, and had both a garbage can and steel chair used on him Kid Kash pinned CW Anderson with a tornado DDT at around the 14-minute mark; definitely the match of the night; at one point, Anderson slammed Kash’s arm against the post on the floor, then threw a steel chair into the arm; both men impressed, Anderson with a delayed superplex and Kash with a hurricanrana over the top to the floor Terry Funk then came out with a copy of Dusty Rhodes’ book and ran down the fact that Dusty rated Hogan, Foley, Flair, Lawler, and Dusty himself as the top five wrestlers of all time. Funk ran down each man – calling Hogan an egomaniac, Foley a word I had never heard before (and am not sure it’s a real word), Flair a banana nose, Lawler a baby banger, and Dusty an egg sucking dog. He then called Dusty out, with the crowd very pro-Funk. Funk eventually sends the ring announcer to the back to find Dusty but he eventually returns, claiming he couldn’t find him. Before intermission, it was announced that Jim Cornette would be with the Midnight Express for the return to Lenoir on May 21st. Brad Attitude & Krissy Vaine defeated Kevin Matthews & Amber O’Neil at 10:20 when Attitude pinned Matthews with a corkscrew crossbody off the top after O’Neil hit a low blow on her partner, followed by a double flatliner by Vaine & O’Neil NWA World Champion Jeff 'Unover' Jarrett pinned Dusty Rhodes at 9:42 after Terry Funk interfered and hit the challenger with a copy of his own book, moments after Jarrett raked the eyes of guest referee Jimmy Valiant; after the bout, Funk grabbed the microphone and insulted Rhodes as he continued to beat on him; the crowd was, again, pro-Funk; Funk eventually started beating up referees, threw a chair, and even punched promoter Tony Hunter It was then announced that Flair vs. Funk would headline the next CCW event in Gaffney, SC on May 7th. The Midnight Express (Condrey & Eaton) defeated the Rock ‘n’ Roll Express in a scaffold match at 4:18 when Condrey knocked Morton off after stomping his hands while Morton hung from the scaffold; both teams came out to their original theme music; Morton became busted open early on the floor and later sustained a face full of powder after he climbed the scaffold; after the bout, Morton sustained a chair to the knee by Condrey before Kid Kash made the save - The crowd was hot for every match and segment. Before the show and during intermission guys like the Rock ‘n’ Roll Express, Jimmy Valiant, Masked Superstar, Team Blondage, Dusty Rhodes, Terry Funk, and Jeff 'Unover' Jarrett were available for autographs and pictures. Overall, a lot of fun and well worth the $15 ticket.

They had a match on Nitro, it was supposed to be the Road Warriors vs The Nasty Boys but out came the Steiners on Motorcycles. It was a great match, but the Road Warriors cheated to win by using one of their armband spikes. One of my favorite tag matches. They also wrestled at Starrcade 89: Future Shock, with the Steiners winning.

I don't think I've seen a BAD Shawn Michaels IC title match from 92-93, and I'm including Skinner, Kamala, and Virgil in that group.

Pretty sure the dates are wrong for both. The Harts were still tag champs on 3/12. LOD / Demolition aired 2/10.

I don't think it's too far away from Greensboro.

For those who are interested, I finished typing up the transcript of the interview I conducted Sunday with Brutus Beefcake. Some interesting stuff in there. What happened to his Summer Slam 88 IC title shot, the Mariner character, etc. Here's a link - http://www.angelfire.com/wrestling/cawthon...keinterview.htm

Beefcake is appearing at the Valiant Brothers Reunion in May and I know the co-promoter / publicist, Evan Ginzburg. He puts out the Wrestling Then & Now newsletter as well. Thanks for the info. Nitpick all you want, the more the better

I picked Terry Funk's book up this past Saturday when he did a show in Lenoir, NC. Even got him to personalize it by calling me an egg sucking dog Looking forward to reading it when I have the time. Funk was on WOL a few weeks back and Meltzer put it over as perhaps the best wrestling book ever.

I was for certain it was Jannetty until HBK came out and started ranting about America. Which had me scared to death that he was going to ask Sgt. Slaughter to be his partner

Looks like Chavo Sr. was also in it, along with a few other old school names. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078034/fullcredits

David 'unover' Flair? My mistake. Note to self: Don't write show recaps when you're on the verge of passing out. It's going to be Rhodes vs. Funk.

One thing I forgot to mention was that there was plenty of merchandise at the show. Figures, magazines, tapes, books, etc. I spent $25 to get Funk to autograph his book (the book was $25, the autograph was free) so the only thing I could afford afterwards was a copy of Meltzer's Tributes which only ran $5 (cover price is $20). ... Oh, and I had Terry write, "To Graham - You egg suckin dog"

Bruno (he supposably turned it down this year) most likely. Bruno will go in the day he dies.

I'm noticing that when I typed Jeff 'Unover' Jarrett, the 'Unover' was added automatically. Neat trick.

In the tradition of Conan O'Brien's "If They Mated" ...

Razor / HBK was good. The fans immediately took to Razor. Tatanka / Bigelow was also solid. Perfect / Luger was a lot better than WrestleMania.

Just got a fan cam of this show and thought I would post the full results. This took place the night before King of the Ring 93. Interesting card. A heel vs. heel match (Razor / HBK) and face vs. face (Bret / Backlund). Razor played the default face in his match with Shawn. Both Backlund and Bret had their fans but Bret was easily more over with the crowd. As far as Bret / Backlund, the crowd largely crapped all over it for the first 10-15 minutes. It was mostly Bob keeping Bret in a headlock. Later on, the fans got into it more as the two men traded pinfall attempts. It became pretty good toward the end but took a long time to get started. WWF @ New York City, NY - Madison Square Garden - June 12, 1993 (9,100) Tito Santana pinned Papa Shango with a roll up at 10:14 (Santana's last MSG match) Razor Ramon defeated WWF IC Champion Shawn Michaels via count-out at 8:51 when Diesel pulled the champion out of the ring and helped him backstage immediately after the challenger hit the Razor’s Edge; after the bout, Razor grabbed the microphone and challenged Michaels to bring Diesel and the belt back out, with Michaels and Diesel returning briefly before leaving ringside (Diesel's MSG debut) Bret Hart pinned Bob Backlund with a roll over at 32:21; prior to the bout, the two shook hands; during the bout, Hart sustained an injured ankle; after the bout, the two shook hands and Backlund raised Hart’s arm in a showing of respect (Backlund’s first pinfall loss at MSG) The Undertaker defeated the Giant Gonzalez via disqualification at 4:34 when Gonzalez hit Taker in the back with a steel chair as Taker grabbed Harvey Wippleman on the ring apron; after the match, Taker sat up in the ring as Gonzalez & Wippleman attempted to use Chloroform on him, with Taker then using the rag on Gonzalez instead (Gonzalez' only MSG match) Tatanka defeated Bam Bam Bigelow via count-out at 11:21 after hitting the Samoan Drop on the floor; after the bout, Bigelow attacked Tatanka in the ring and hit the diving headbutt The Headshrinkers & Afa defeated the Smoking Gunns & Kamala at around the 9-minute mark when Kamala was pinned with a roll up as he was distracted by Afa in the ring (Afa's in-ring return to MSG after a nearly 9-year absence, the Gunns' MSG debut, Kamala's last MSG match) Lex Luger pinned Mr. Perfect at 14:02 after taking his forearm pad off behind the referee's back and knocking Perfect out while the referee was distracted by Shawn Michaels and Diesel at ringside; prior to the bout, Luger was forced to wear the pad or he would be fined $25,000 and be suspended for 6 months

Well the only problem with that is that none of the matches took place at TV tapings. And by that time, the MSG / Spectrum / Boston Garden monthly tapings had ended. I know there's a fan cam of their cage match in Worcester, MA in 2/92 but I don't know if the WWF itself has any footage.

I blame "Makin Some Noise" for making me a Tom Petty fan. I think I watched that video a total of 30 times leading up to Survivor Series 92.

Thanks for doing the threads. It helps me pinpoint errors like this.

It was from one of the Piper / Flair cage matches held between Rumble 92 and WrestleMania. No clue about the location (they had more than a dozen of those matches) but it was most likely one of the IC champion vs. world champion non-title matches.

I finally got around to watching this for the first time this morning. I now have a headache What did you think of it? Personally, I think the only worthwhile match on the card was the main event. WCW New Blood Rising August 13, 2000 Vancouver, British Columbia PNE Included Tony Schiavone, Scott Hudson, & Mark Madden on commentary; featured Jeff Jarrett attacking Booker T outside the arena, upon Booker’s arrival, in which he repeatedly slammed Booker’s car door into the champion’s already injured knee Shannon Moore, Shane Helms, & Evan Karagious (w/ Tank Abbott) defeated Yang, Kaz Hayashi, & Jamie-san in a ladder match at 11:31; both 3 Count’s recording contract and gold record were on the line; the Young Dragons claimed the record at 9:03 but Abbott soon grabbed it away; Karagious grabbed the recording contract to win the match Ernest Miller pinned the Great Muta at 6:47 with the Feliner; mid-way through the match, Tygress came ringside in an attempt to ensure a victory for the Cat; during the closing moments of the contest, Tygress came off the top behind the referee’s back with a steel chair, hitting Muta in the head Buff Bagwell pinned Kanyon at 6:46 in a Judy Bagwell on a Forklift match after Bagwell hit a double Buff Blockbuster on both Kanyon and an interfering David Arquette; after the bout, Kanyon and Arquette hugged before Kanyon dropped him with the Kanyon Cutter WCW Tag Team Champions Kronik defeated Capt. Rection & Lash Laroux, Mark Jindrak & Sean O’Haire, Shawn Stasiak & Chuck Palumbo at 12:21 when Bryan Clarke pinned Palumbo following the double chokeslam; prior to the bout, Disco Inferno was named the special referee, with Rey Mysterio Jr., Juventud Guerrera, and Tygress as the ringside enforcers; Konnan did guest commentary for the bout; late in the bout, the Great Muta & Vampiro interfered but were quickly thrown out of the ring; moments later, Lt. Loco interfered, stole the referee’s shirt from Disco, and made the pinfall; due to pre-match stipulations, the Filthy Animals would challenge the champions the following night on Nitro Billy Kidman pinned Shane Douglas (w/ Torrie Wilson) in a leather strap match at 8:24 with the Kid Krusher after sending Douglas into Torrie on the ring apron; after the bout, Kidman briefly spanked Torrie with the strap before Douglas attacked him from behind and hung him with the strap before Big Vito made the save; moments later, Reno attacked Vito from behind, with Vito eventually clearing the ring Major Gunns pinned Mrs. Hancock at 6:45 in a ROTC match with a roll up in the mud pit; after the bout, David Flair came out to check on Mrs. Hancock when she doubled over in pain, holding her stomach; moments later, she was taken backstage on a stretcher; Major Gunns was visibly worried during the segment Sting pinned the Demon with the reverse DDT at the 54-second mark; prior to the bout, Sting propelled from the top of the arena down to the aisle way; after the bout, Sting was attacked by Vampiro and the Great Muta, where they attempted to hang Sting by the cable he was lowered down by before Kronik made the save; Brian Adams then challenged Vampiro & Muta to a tag team title match for later in the night WCW Canadian (US), Cruiserweight, and Hardcore Champion Lance Storm defeated Mike Awesome at 11:24; prior to the bout, Storm was escorted to the entrance by an entourage of security; upon his entrance, Storm announced that Jacques Rougeau would be the second referee for the bout to make sure the Canadian rules would be followed; only the Canadian (US) title was on the line; Awesome originally won the match and title by blocking a hurricanrana attempt into a sit-down powerbomb at 4:09 but Rougeau argued that the Canadian rules state that it must be a 5-count, not 3; Awesome again appeared to have won the match and title at 5:49 via submission with a dragon sleeper but Rougeau nullified the decision by stating submissions don’t count; after both men crashed through a table set up in the ring, Rougeau said the winner would be the first man to get to his feet within the standing 10 count; as the regular referee counted Storm, Rougeau punched Awesome to the mat which resulted in Storm’s victory; after the bout, Bret Hart made a surprise appearance and hugged Storm and Rougeau in the ring Vampiro & the Great Muta defeated WCW Tag Team Champions Kronik to win the titles at 9:05 when Muta pinned Brian Clarke with the moonsault after the Harris Brothers came out of the crowd and hit a double sidewalk slam on Clarke Kevin Nash defeated Scott Steiner and Bill Goldberg at 10:50 by pinning Steiner with a kick to the midsection and the powerbomb; Goldberg didn’t show up until a minute into the match, with his ribs taped up; at just around the 5-minute mark, Nash set up Goldberg for the powerbomb but Goldberg shoved him off and walked out of the match, even confronting Vince Russo who came out in an attempt to get Goldberg back inside the ring; Madajah came out to support Steiner at around the 8 minute mark; due to pre-match stipulations, Nash earned a world title shot at Fall Brawl WCW World Champion Booker T pinned Jeff Jarrett with the Book End at 14:31

The stuffed animal pig with a brick hidden inside. The Outlaws used that to beat the Godwinns on Raw once. Juventud Guerrera's bottle of tequilla he used to beat Liger on Nitro. And I always mark out for a good fireball.