cawthon777

LOL This is so random. Tugboat was around for a little bit when Steamboat came in but he turned heel and became Typhoon in mid June. No, the match didn't happen because Tugboat and Steamboat were both babyface. But if you're asking if Fred Ottman fought Steamboat at all in the WWF ... the answer is still no.

I recently received this info from landy1987 who found them in an old Observer. Thought they might be of interest. King of the Ring 88 - Providence, RI - Civic Center - October 16, 1988 (6,700) Opening Round: Ken Patera pinned Nikolai Volkoff with a sunset flip at 10:20 Ted Dibiase pinned Brutus Beefcake at 7:32 with a knee to the back after Beefcake became distracted by Ron Bass at ringside Hercules fought Bad News Brown to a double count-out at 6:05 WWF World Champion Randy Savage pinned Virgil in a non-title match with the flying elbowsmash at 5:43 Ron Bass defeated the Barbarian via disqualification at 7:02 when the Barbarian began choking Bass with his own bullwhip Shawn Michaels pinned Danny Davis at 3:37 The Red Rooster pinned Marty Jannetty at 11:00 by using the tights for leverage Iron Mike Sharpe (sub. for the Warlord) pinned Boris Zhukov at 6:27 after hitting him with the loaded forearm Non-tournament match: Jim Duggan pinned Dino Bravo in a flag match at 8:43 after Frenchy Martin's interference with the flagpole backfired Quarter Finals: Ron Bass pinned Shawn Michaels with an elbow drop at 7:39 Ted Dibiase pinned Ken Patera at 5:42 with a clothesline as Virgil held Patera's legs down from the outside The Red Rooster defeated Iron Mike Sharpe via submission with the Scorpion Deathlock at 3:27 Semi Finals: WWF World Champion Randy Savage pinned the Red Rooster at 7:21 with the flying elbowsmash Ted Dibiase defeated Ron Bass via forfeit when Dibiase paid Bass off to fake an injury and say he was unable to compete as a result Finals: Ted Dibiase defeated WWF World Champion Randy Savage via count-out at 6:11 when Savage became distracted by Virgil on the floor, allowing Dibiase to break the count back inside the ring; after the bout, Hercules chased Dibiase and Virgil backstage as they were celebrating and holding up the KOTR trophy

I'm trying to list them all by release date, along with all the extra matches featured in each DVD. If anyone can help with that, let me know. http://www.angelfire.com/wrestling/cawthon777/dvd.htm

By all accounts I've read, Dibiase was to have met Bigelow in the finals.

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That would have been for Summer Slam 93, not KOTR. I imagine KOTR would have gone off as planned, only with Hogan defeating Yoko and without the Lawler beatdown of Bret at the end. Bret winning the tournament would have clearly made him the #1 contender.

I think you're about 2 years off there. Rock / Rikishi was Survivor Series 2000. I haven't heard anything about him turning heel. If it's true, that's a dumb idea because turning him heel at that time would have left only Austin and Taker as the top babyfaces in the company.

There has been talk that Hogan killed his push because he was becoming TOO popular.

Every year since 85. The Scorpion Deathlock was Taylor's finisher when he came into the WWF in 88.

In the summer / fall of 87, they ran a bunch of Bigelow vignettes. Every manager in the WWF wanted him but week after week one would written off. One week, Jimmy Hart. The next, Heenan, etc. Eventually it was revealed Sir Oliver Humperdink would be his manager (making his WWF debut as well). Bigelow stuck around for a few months after Mania. His last match was a loss to Andre at MSG in June. He went to the NWA that fall and fought US Champion Barry Windham at Starrcade before once again taking off, probably to Japan.

But only after the feud with Rude. Savage and Bigelow were the only viable babyfaces that could have made it to the finals at that point in time. Hogan wouldn't have jobbed to Dibiase so the finish to his match with Andre likely would have remained the same.

I wonder if LBJ regards himself as a wrestling god.

Had Dibiase gone over, he probably would have done so by defeating Bigelow in the finals. At least that's my best guess. Steamboat was on the way out so he likely would have been gone in the first round. The bracketing was discussed on another board a very long time ago but, IIRC, in the end it was decided there were no changes at all. At least none made publically. I might be wrong, that's just the way I remember it.

For some reason, I expected far fewer matches in 10 hours. Maybe they just feel longer than they are.

THAT IS HILARIOUS! I love the marketing strategy. I'm actually tempted to bid on it now. The picture of Big Show molesting the monkey is classic!

IIRC, it was his debut and there was no buildup whatsoever.

People like that piss me off. OK, so it's kinda rare. That doesn't mean you can go on Amazon and list your copy as being worth $200. Either 1) you know nothing about wrestling other than realizing your DVD is rare or 2) you do know something about wrestling and just want to rip people off. Either way, you deserve to be kicked in the shin very hard. I see insanely overpriced merchandise on eBay all the time and it seriously makes me want to scream sometimes.

History says you can't guess anything from the poster design. There are many examples but one off the top of my head had all three members of Team Angle on the poster for Backlash 03, with Angle being most prominately featured. Kurt was out of action with the neck injury. But that is different since Angle was out with a injury. Well that's 1 example but I can list more. - Warrior was on the Souled Out 99 poster. He was long gone by then. - Big Show was on the KOTR 99 poster. He jobbed in the first round. - I personally have an event poster for the 11/97 Raw taping in Roanoke. Bret is on the front with the belt. Only problem is this was 3 weeks after Montreal. - Any PPV poster that prominately featured a diva. - Triple H on the poster for Vengeance 01. - RVD on the No Way Out 02 poster. ... Because that match with Goldust was so well built. My point is the posters are made MONTHS ahead of time. VERY rarely can you read anything into who is featured.

That can't be right. Storm didn't show up until the summer of 2000. My favorite moments ... Seeing Luger show up during the first telecast and challenge Hogan for the following week. That set the tone right there for an "anything can happen" type atmosphere. The early Benoit / Guerrero / Malenko appearances. The month that Nitro was outdoors at Disney MGM. The nWo had just started and I liked that environment, even if the fans didn't know Sting from Scott Hall. Bischoff's heel turn right before WW3 96. I used to have that on tape, wish I still did. Nash alludes to something big going down during the whole show. Bischoff closes the broadcast by doing an in-ring promo on how he can't get in touch with Piper. Piper shows up out of nowhere and calls Bischoff out, labeling him a liar. The nWo shows up, Piper gets beat down, and Hogan hugs Bischoff. Wow. Loved it.

Lita: It Just Feels Right (8/28/01 release date) - Lita, Matt & Jeff Hardy defeated Test, Albert, & Trish Stratus at 13:12 when Lita pinned Trish with a moonsault; the Hardyz fought off T&A after the match, although they sustained a beating in the process (Fully Loaded 00 - 7/23/00; Dallas, TX) - Trish Stratus pinned Lita in a leather strap match at 1:38 after Stephanie McMahon interfered and hit Lita with the Women’s title belt (Raw is War - 7/24/00; Austin, TX) - WWF Women's Champion Lita, Matt & Jeff Hardy defeated Jackie, WWF Tag Team Champions Edge & Christian (Smackdown! - 8/29/00; Fayetteville, NC) - WWF Women's Champion Lita pinned Jackie in a hardcore match after spraying her with a fire extinguisher and hitting the challenger with a cookie sheet (Raw is War - 10/9/00; Anaheim, CA) - WWF Women's Champion Lita defeated Trish Stratus in a Bra & Panties match at 2:08 (Raw is War - 10/23/00; Hartford, CT) - WWF Light Heavyweight Champion Dean Malenko, Eddie Guerrero, & Perry Saturn (w/ Terri) defeated Lita, Matt & Jeff Hardy in an elimination match at 8:03; Jeff pinned Guerrero at 2:56 with the Swanton; Saturn pinned Jeff at 3:41 with the DVD; Matt pinned Saturn with the Twist of Fate at 5:07; Malenko pinned Matt with a roll up at 5:33; Malenko defeated Lita via submission with the Texas Cloverleaf (Armageddon 00 - 12/10/00; Birmingham, AL) - Perry Saturn & Terri defeated Matt Hardy & Lita when Terri pinned Lita after Dean Malenko interfered and hit a DDT on Lita, following Lita's moonsault onto Terri (Smackdown! - 12/30/00 - San Antonio, TX) - Lita (w/ Matt Hardy) pinned Molly Holly (w/ Crash Holly) with the moonsault after outside interference and Molly receiving a DDT; due to pre-match stipulations, Lita became the #1 contender to the Women's Title (Raw is War - 2/26/01; Phoenix, AZ) - Jeff Hardy (w/ Lita & Matt Hardy) pinned the Big Show with the Swanton and a fast count from the referee after the moonsault from Lita and a legdrop off the top from Matt and all three covering Show to the mat; after the match, Show chased the Hardys, Lita and the referee from ringside; moments prior to the finish, Show shoved the referee down (Smackdown! - 4/3/01; Oklahoma City, OK)

Action! (9/25/01 release date) - Kurt Angle defeated WCW World Champion Booker T via submission with the ankle lock to win the title at 10:29, despite Steve Austin interfering and hitting the Stunner on Angle after a Harlem side kick from the champion accidentally knocked out the referee; late in the bout, many members of the Alliance came ringside to help save Booker's title only for a WWF contingent to make the save, with both groups brawling around ringside; as the referee was distracted, Kanyon came in the ring and hit Angle in the back with a steel chair; moments later, the wrestlers were escorted backstage by officials or battled into the crowd (7/24/01; Pittsburgh, PA) - WWF World Champion Steve Austin pinned WWF Tag Team Champion Chris Jericho at 10:59 with the Stunner; moments prior to the finish, William Regal came ringside and pulled surprise guest ringside enforcer Mick Foley out of the ring as Jericho had the champion caught in the Walls of Jericho; in the ensuing brawl on the floor, Foley accidentally hit Jericho with a steel chair blow to the head as he attempted to attack Regal; Vince McMahon was banned from ringside for the duration of the bout; after the match, Foley brought Regal into the ring where he was put in Jericho's Walls of Jericho while at the same time sustaining the Mr. Socko Mandible Claw from Foley (6/4/01; Minneapolis, MN) - Jeff Hardy pinned WWF IC Champion Triple H to win the title at 8:06 with the Swanton after Matt Hardy ran in the ring and hit the champion over the head with a steel chair (4/10/01; Philadelphia, PA) - Steve Austin fought WWF World Champion Kurt Angle to a no contest at around 12:20 when Triple H came ringside, pulled referee Earl Hebner out of the ring as Austin had Angle covered with the Stunner, led Hebner around the ring by his hair, and ultimately knocked him out with a punch; after the bout, Austin threw Angle to the floor and invited Triple H into the ring; after battling in the ring and at ringside, Triple H busted Austin open with a series of blows with a steel pipe, finally laying Austin across the announce table and posing on top of Austin's motionless body as the show came to a close (1/8/01; San Jose, CA) - Triple H (w/ Stephanie McMahon) pinned WWF IC Champion Chris Jericho with the Pedigree to win the title at 7:30 after hitting Jericho over the head with a steel chair as the champion had Stephanie in the Walls of Jericho; moments prior to the bout, William Regal ran into the ring with the chair, as the Walls were applied on the challenger, but Jericho dropped him before he could use the weapon (4/3/01; Oklahoma City, OK) - WWF Tag Team Champions the Dudley Boyz & Spike Dudley defeated Edge, Christian, & Rhyno via disqualification at 5:54 when Edge hit Bubba Ray in hte back with a steel chair as the remaining participants battled on the floor; after the bout, Spike fought off Edge and Christian before being Gored by Rhyno through a table set up against the corner (3/20/01; Providence, RI) - The Rock defeated WWF World Champion Steve Austin (w/ Vince McMahon) via disqualification in a steel cage match at around the 6-minute mark when McMahon entered the cage and knocked out referee Tim White with a double axe handle after the challenger hit the Rock Bottom; moments prior to the finish, McMahon pulled the referee out of the cage to prevent him from counting the pin as Rock had Austin covered with the People's Elbow; the referee responded by shoving McMahon to the floor; after the match, Triple H entered the cage with a sledgehammer, teased a face turn, but eventually helped in triple teaming the Rock; prior to the bout, McMahon did the ring introduction for the champion; as the show came to a close, the Rock was beaten bloody while Triple H, Austin, and McMahon shared a few beers (Rock's last match until July) (4/2/01; Ft. Worth, TX)

History says you can't guess anything from the poster design. There are many examples but one off the top of my head had all three members of Team Angle on the poster for Backlash 03, with Angle being most prominately featured. Kurt was out of action with the neck injury.

12/1/93 in Utica, NY. It's on Bret's 1994 CHV.

It's stuff like that which totally turned me off of wrestling for a large portion of 1999.

The kayfabe reason was this: WWF @ Glens Falls, NY - Civic Center - April 4, 1989 WWF Superstars taping: 5/6/89: Jake Roberts defeated Virgil (sub. for Ted Dibiase who was suffering from the flu) with the DDT; after the bout, Roberts gave out a handful of cash to the fans at ringside after taking the money from Virgil's tights; moments thereafter, Dibiase came ringside and attacked Roberts, applying the Million $ Dream; it was this incident which was credited with putting Roberts out of action with a fractured disc in his neck The real reason was this: WWF @ Orlando, FL - May 8, 1989 Jake Roberts defeated Ted Dibiase; minutes after the bout, Roberts was arrested on charges of assault stemming from an incident with a fan following the 12/88 television tapings in Daytona Beach So because of the legal troubles Jake didn't return to TV until September, but he was regularly mentioned on TV during that time by Dibiase. One interesting thing about Roberts' absence - both Roddy Piper and Dusty Rhodes made their in-ring returns to the WWF after being gone several years and both did so by subbing for Jake against Ted Dibiase in the spring of 89.