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  1. cawthon777

    The Old School questions thread

    I honestly don't remember if anyone has won by doing that but I always mark out for it.
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    Pick a Card (April 19)

    It wasn't a strictly WWF show, just a show where WWF talent appeared. Same with the USWA card in 93.
  3. I'm a big pay-per-view poster collector and I try to get those signed when I can. Last year I met Brad Armstrong at a convention and asked him to sign my Great American Bash 91 poster (Luger / Flair with a big picture of Missy Hyatt at the bottom). He asked if he could draw an arrow pointing to Missy's crotch and write "I was there". After a big laugh, he said he was just joking and was one of the few who weren't there. Former NWA referee Tommy Young was sitting right next to Brad and didn't even know who Missy was. Speaking of Missy, I met her last year in Charlotte and had her sign a Beach Blast 92 poster of mine. She signed it "Graham, Breast Wishes - Missy" If that's not priceless than I don't know what is. Met Tully Blanchard at the Tribute to Starrcade event last November in Spartanburg, SC (memorable for the "It's still real to me!" Guy). I had him sign my Survivor Series 89 poster which has photos on it of everyone scheduled for the card. Even Barry Windham, Akeem, and Tully Blanchard are on the poster even though they didn't make the card. In Tully's case he was fired beforehand. So he's sitting next to JJ Dillon at the table looking at the poster and he turns to JJ and asks "Hey JJ, why did you let them fire me?" He and I joked that Vince should have paid him for the show since they used his image to promote it. I met Gary Michael Cappetta at a convention a couple years ago and had him sign a copy of his book. Also hung out with him at the hotel bar for an hour later that night as Bill Apter sang karaoke.
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    The Old School questions thread

    1) WWF @ New York City, NY - Madison Square Garden - February 18, 1985 (26,092 including several thousand at Felt Forum) Prime Time Wrestling - 3/19/85: Jimmy Snuka pinned Bob Orton Jr. at 9:59 with a sunset flip into the ring after punching Orton’s injured left arm; moments prior to the finish, Orton seriously injured the arm after a missed charge resulted in Orton hitting the steel ring post (The Greatest Wrestling Stars of the 80s DVD) 2) Crush worked Oregon after leaving the WWF in 1991. He disappeared between the USA "Sunday Night Slam" Summer Slam 94 TV special and Rumble 95. Shortly after Rumble 95 he was busted and thrown in jail. Then he returned in the summer of 96.
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    WWF in 2000...

    I think the TV holds up well. The matches weren't nearly as long as they are now and there were more than a few main events that went to no contests (which I hate) but the entire roster was well built at that time, from Triple H and Rock all the way to Crash Holly and Steve Blackman.
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    The Old School questions thread

    It's safe to say his interview with Rick Rude & Bobby Heenan at Summer Slam 89 was live I'm inclined to believe they were all live unless special circumstances were involved.
  7. You can expand Charlotte to include both Carolinas. We're whores for wrestling - we'll cheer for anything and everything.
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    The Old School questions thread

    The earliest I remember seeing it was the world title loss to Sid on Raw.
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    April 6 in W/WWF/E History

    Comments, questions, additions, and corrections welcome. WWWF @ Scranton, PA - CYC - April 6, 1965 Wahoo McDaniel & Haystacks Calhoun vs. Bill Watts & Gorilla Monsoon US Champion Bobo Brazil vs. Waldo Von Erich WWWF World Champion Bruno Sammartino vs. Gene Kiniski Included 2 other bouts WWWF @ Philadelphia, PA - Arena - April 6, 1968 Bull Johnson vs. Sammy Rubin Johnny Rodz vs. Miguel Perez Earl Maynard vs. Bull Ramos Bill Miller vs. Crybaby Cannon Victor Rivera vs. Prof. Toru Tanaka Virgil the Kentucky Butcher defeated WWWF World Champion Bruno Sammartino via count-out WWWF @ White Plains, NY - April 6, 1970 WWWF World Champion Bruno Sammartino defeated Ivan Koloff via count-out WWWF @ Philadelphia, PA - April 6, 1974 Darling Dagmar defeated Diamond Lil Mr. Fuji fought Dean Ho to a draw Prof. Tanaka fought Tony Garea to a draw Chief Jay Strongbow defeated Ed Sullivan Nikolai Volkoff defeated Jose Gonzalez Otto Von Heller defeated Larry Zbyzsko WWWF World Champion Bruno Sammartino defeated Don Leo Jonathan at 26:41 WWWF @ Portland, ME - Expo Building - April 6, 1976 Gene Dundee vs. Pete Sanchez Rocky Tomayo vs. Jose Gonzalez Man Mountain Mike vs. Dominic DeNucci Crusher Blackwell vs. Kevin Sullivan Baron Mikel Scicluna vs. Bobo Brazil Superstar Billy Graham fought Andre the Giant to a double count-out WWWF @ White Plains, NY - April 6, 1977 Baron Mikel Scicluna defeated Jan Nelson Carlos Rocha defeated Johnny Rodz The Haiti Kid & Hillbilly Kid defeated Little Johnny & Billy the Kid Billy Whitewolf defeated Doug Gilbert Chief Jay Strongbow defeated Tor Kamata WWWF World Champion Bruno Sammartino defeated Stan Stasiak WWWF @ Staten Island, NY - April 6, 1979 Larry Zbyszko defeated Mike Hall Dominic DeNucci defeated Baron Mikel Scicluna Fred Curry defeated Frank Rodriguez Jerry Valiant defeated Tony Garea WWWF World Champion Bob Backlund defeated Peter Miavia WWF @ New York City, NY - Madison Square Garden - April 6, 1981 (25,302 including 3,334 in Felt Forum) Televised on the MSG Network: The Great Yatsu pinned Terry Gunn at 5:11 Killer Khan pinned Dominic DeNucci at 5:19 WWF IC Champion Pedro Morales pinned Moondog Rex at 9:33 Pat Patterson fought Sgt. Slaughter to a double disqualification at 13:36 Mil Mascaras pinned Moondog King at 8:14 WWF World Champion Bob Backlund defeated Stan Hansen in a steel cage match by escaping through the door at 8:59 (Bloodbath: Wrestling's Most Incredible Steel Cage Matches) SD Jones pinned Baron Mikel Scicluna at 8:53 The Fabulous Moolah & Lelani Kai defeated Jill Fontaine & Suzette Ferriera at 7:08 Tony Garea & Rick Martel defeated Johnny Rodz & Larry Sharpe at 7:38 WWF @ White Plains, NY - Westchester County Civic Center - April 6, 1982 WWF World Champion Bob Backlund vs. Bob Orton Jr. WWF @ Flushing, NY - Queens College Fitzgerald Gym - April 6, 1982 Benefit card for Merit Scholarship Program Andre the Giant & Rick McGraw vs. Jesse Ventura & Adrian Adonis Included 4 other bouts and an appearance from Greg Valentine WWF @ Long Island, NY - Nassau Coliseum - April 6, 1984 Wendy Richter & Peggy Lee defeated Princess Victoria & Velvet McIntyre Terry Daniels defeated Jose Luis Rivera Chief Jay Strongbow pinned Charlie Fulton B. Brian Blair defeated Rene Goulet Sgt. Slaughter fought the Iron Sheik to a double disqualification Tiger Chung Lee defeated Tony Garea Greg Valentine defeated Ivan Putski Bob Backlund defeated Sika WWF @ St. Louis, MO - Kiel Auditorium - April 6, 1984 Tony Atlas fought Dick Murdoch to a no contest Spike Huber defeated Dennis Stamp Alexis Smirnoff defeated Salvatore Bellomo Bob Orton Jr. defeated Brian Madden WWF IC Champion Tito Santana fought Adrian Adonis to a draw Paul Orndorff & David Schultz defeated Rocky Johnson & SD Jones WWF World Champion Hulk Hogan defeated Big John Studd in a steel cage match by escaping through the door (Hulkamania) WWF / Arena Wrestling Alliance @ Palmerston North - April 6, 1991 Sivi Afi vs. Mad Dog from Baghdad Don Muraco vs. Royal Viking Jim Powers vs. the Genius Koko B. Ware vs. the Brooklyn Brawler The Bushwhackers vs. WWF Tag Team Champions the Nasty Boys WWF @ Tucson, AZ - Convention Center - April 6, 1993 WWF Superstars taping: 4/24/93 - included a scheduled interview with Bam Bam Bigelow which was interrupted by Sensational Sherri who wanted to talk about Luna Vachon; Bigelow then threatened Sherri when she refused to leave until Tatanka made the save and knocked Bigelow from the interview platform, with both men having to be separated by officials: WWF IC Champion Shawn Michaels defeated Dale Wolfe Rick & Scott Steiner defeated Reno Riggins & Billy Jones El Matador defeated Louie Spicolli Damien Demento defeated KC Cleric Jim Duggan defeated Tim Patterson Tatanka fought Steve Vega to a no contest when, after Tatanka’s music played several times, footage on the video wall showed an unconscious Tatanka backstage, with Bam Bam Bigelow cutting Tatanka’s dyed hair (1993 Year in Review) Mr. Hughes defeated Raven Clark 5/1/93 - included Raymond Rougeau conducting an interview with the Undertaker and Paul Bearer regarding Giant Gonzalez; featured the announcement that WWF World Champion Hulk Hogan would defend the title against Yokozuna at the King of the Ring and that Bret Hart had received a first round bye into the KOTR tournament: The Headshrinkers (w/ Afa) defeated Scott Bazo & Bob Young at 2:46 when Fatu pinned Bazo with the splash off the top Virgil pinned the White Shadow at 2:04 with a Russian leg sweep KOTR Qualifying Match: Mr. Perfect fought Doink the Clown to a time-limit draw at 6:39 as Perfect had Doink down in the Perfect Plex Typhoon pinned Larry Ludden with a splash at 2:31 Lex Luger fought Terry Zeller to a no contest when Luger knocked Zeller out before the match began after Luger caught his opponent checking himself out in Luger's full-length mirror 5/8/93 - featured a closing segment in which Raymond Rougeau interviewed Giant Gonzalez and Harvey Wippleman regarding Gonzalez' KOTR Qualifying match with Tatanka the following week: Mr. Hughes, WWF Tag Team Champions Ted Dibiase & IRS defeated Kamala (w/ Slick) & the Nasty Boys when IRS pinned Kamala with a roll up at 7:36 after Kamala became distracted after hitting the splash on IRS but not realizing he had to roll him over onto his back Yokozuna (w/ Mr. Fuji) pinned Sean Dakota with the Bonzai Drop at 2:54 Crush defeated Steve Vega via submission with the head vice at 2:00 KOTR Qualifying Match: Razor Ramon pinned Tito Santana at 3:19 by grabbing the tights for leverage after the momentum of a flying crossbody by Santana put Razor on top for the pin 5/15/93 - included a vignette promoting the debut of the Smoking Gunns; featured the debut of Bonnie Blackstone as she interviewed Lex Luger regarding his steel plated forearm: Rick & Scott Steiner defeated Mark Ming & Jim Armstrong following the top rope bulldog double team Mr. Hughes pinned Bobby Young with the sidewalk slam Bob Backlund pinned Terry Zeller with a body scissors into a roll up Virgil pinned Jose Martinez with a standing side neckbreaker WWF IC Champion Shawn Michaels pinned Billy Jones with the superkick KOTR Qualifying Match: Tatanka defeated Giant Gonzalez (w/ Harvey Wippleman) via disqualification at 2:53 when Gonzalez shoved referee Bill Alfonso with one hand as he had a choke applied on Tatanka with the other; after the bout, Gonzalez continued to choke Tatanka while at the same time sending Alfonso to the floor and scaring referee Joey Marella from the ring as well; after the bout, the two officials helped Tatanka backstage WWF @ Durban, South Africa - Westridge Stadium - April 6, 1997 (7,500; sell out) WWF IC Champion Rocky Miavia defeated Savio Vega Hunter Hearst Helmsley defeated Goldust Doug Furnas & Phil LaFon defeated the New Blackjacks Aldo Montoya defeated Salvatore Sincere Jesse Jammes pinned TL Hopper Flash Funk pinned D-Lo Brown Ahmed Johnson pinned Crush Bret Hart fought WWF World Champion the Undertaker to a double count-out WWF @ Berlin, Germany - Deutschlandhalle - April 6, 1998 (8,000) Jeff Jarrett defeated Brakkus Bradshaw defeated Marc Mero Skull defeated Phinneas Godwinn Ken Shamrock & Owen Hart defeated WWF IC Champion the Rock & D-Lo Brown TAFKA Goldust defeated Cactus Jack the Legion of Doom defeated WWF Tag Team Champions Billy Gunn & the Road Dogg via disqualification The Undertaker defeated Kane WWF World Champion Steve Austin defeated WWF European Champion Hunter Hearst Helmsley WWF (Raw) @ Salt Lake City, UT - E Center - April 6, 2002 Spike Dudley & Crash Holly defeated Tommy Dreamer & Steven Richards when Spike pinned Richards with the Dudley Dog Brock Lesnar pinned D-Lo Brown Matt & Jeff Hardy defeated Mr. Perfect & Shawn Stasiak following the Twist of Fate / Swanton combo on Perfect Bradshaw pinned Justin Credible following the Clothesline from Hell Trish Stratus & Jackie defeated WWF Women’s Champion Jazz & Molly Holly when Trish pinned Molly with the bulldog Goldust defeated Raven Kane pinned X-Pac with the chokeslam WWF European Champion William Regal pinned WWF Hardcore Champion Bubba Ray Dudley to win the title after hitting him with brass knuckles Goldust pinned WWF European & Hardcore Champion William Regal to win the Hardcore title Raven pinned WWF Hardcore Champion Goldust to win the title with the DDT Bubba Ray Dudley pinned WWF Hardcore Champion Raven to win the title following a powerbomb through a table WWF IC Champion Rob Van Dam pinned Eddie Guerrero with the Five Star Frog Splash The Undertaker pinned Steve Austin in a No DQ match after hitting him with a chair WWF (Smackdown!) @ Davis, CA - April 6, 2002 Torrie Wilson defeated Ivory and Stacy Keibler in a swimsuit contest Al Snow & Maven defeated Chavo Guerrero Jr. & Hugh Morrus following the Snow Plow Albert & Lance Storm defeated Scotty 2 Hotty & Randy Orton following the Baldo Bomb Val Venis defeated D-Von Dudley WWF Cruiserweight Champion Billy Kidman pinned Tajiri Hardcore Holly pinned Test WWF Tag Team Champions Billy Gunn & Chuck Palumbo defeated Rikishi & the Hurricane after Rico interfered and kicked the Hurricane Diamond Dallas Page pinned Christian with the Diamond Cutter Edge pinned Kurt Angle with the DDT WWF World Champion Triple H pinned Chris Jericho with the Pedigree WWE @ San Antonio, TX - SBC Center - April 6, 2004 (5,000) Matt Capotelli pinned Sho Funaki by reversing a back suplex into a roll up and grabbing the tights for leverage Velocity: Doug Basham defeated Paul London Nunzio defeated Rey Mysterio Jr., Billy Kidman, and Akio; due to prematch stipulations, Nunzio became the #1 contender to the Cruiserweight title Billy Gunn & Hardcore Holly defeated Eddy Craven & Russell Simpson Smackdown! - included an opening segment in which John Bradshaw Layfield offered to pay a fan $1,000 to clean his car in a minute; after the fan came very close, Bradshaw accidentally spilled a bottle of polish on the hood, costing the fan the money; featured a closing segment in which Kurt Angle brought out all the nominees for the 'Great American Award' (Big Show, John Cena, Charlie Haas, Booker T, and John Bradshaw Layfield), with Angle initially picking Cena as the #1 contender, due to fan votes, but choosing Layfield instead after watching a video of Layfield catching illegal immigrants on the Texas / Mexico border; after breaking off part of the trophy, Eddie Guerrero cleared the ring of both Angle and Bradshaw: The Dudley Boyz defeated WWE Smackdown! Tag Team Champions Rikishi & Scotty 2 Hotty in a non-title match when Bubba Ray pinned Scotty following the 3D at 4:27 WWE Cruiserweight Champion Chavo Guerrero Jr. (w/ Chavo Guerrero Sr.) pinned Jamie Noble at 3:50 by blocking a victory roll and holding onto the ropes for leverage WWE US Champion John Cena pinned Danny Basham (w/ Doug Basham) in a non-title match at 2:57 with the FU, despite interference from Doug Basham The Big Show & Charlie Haas defeated Booker T & Rob Van Dam at 6:41 when Haas pinned RVD after Show, the illegal man, hit the chokeslam after RVD hit the Five Star Frog Splash on Haas; RVD wrestled the entire match himself after Booker T refused to tag in and walked out of the match mid-way through the contest Rene Dupree (w/ Fifi the poodle) pinned Orlando Jordan at 1:12 with a version of the Snow Plow Spike Dudley pinned Johnny Stamboli at 2:04 with the Dudley Dogg after Stamboli hit the corner; Spike's original opponent was to have been Teddy Long but Long brought out Stamboli as a 'warm-up' opponent for Spike; after the match, Spike was attacked by Mark Jindrak as he prepared to fight Long
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    OAO WrestleMania 22 thread - 4/2/06

    I doubt it. It was just a clever way to have him come back fresh later on and pop the crowd for his return.
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    WrestleMania Chat Room

    I know we had a discussion here last year about opening a chat room during WrestleMania. I wanted to let everyone know I've opened one on AIM and - although I'll be running errands this afternoon - I'll stay in the chat room to make it available. Just invite yourself to "TheHistoryofWWE". It will "officially" open at 6:30 pm EST for the preshow. We had a good group of TSMers last year so feel free to stop by
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    Wrestlemania 23 at Ford Field Detroit

    They had no problem selling out Safeco Field after a lousy 2002. I think filling the place up will require some work but can be done.
  13. This is going to be Wrestlemania 9 bad. Why, is Doink and Giant Gonzalez booked too?
  14. Backlund was WWF Champ when he and Pedro Morales beat the Samoans at Shea Stadium to win the tag straps.
  15. We've had two WrestleManias take place on this day and Vince had enough self control to not take advantage of those.
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    World Wrestling Peace Festival

    No but a fancam featuring a handful of the matches does exist.
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    World Wrestling Peace Festival

    I know it's the show that got Rey hired with WCW. I'm sure Jericho and Dragon caught their eye here as well. prowrestlinghistory.com World Wrestling Peace Festival June 1, 1996 in Los Angeles, CA LA Sports Arena drawing 5,964 ($64,965) Craig Pittman (WCW) beat KGB (AAA) (6:11) via submission. Jim Niedhart pinned Bobby Bradley, Jr. (5:00). Lady Apache (EMLL) & Akira Hokuto beat Neftali (AAA) & Bull Nakano (8:24) when Hokuto pinned Neftali. WCW: Chris Benoit pinned Alex Wright (9:54). AAA: Rey Misterio, Jr. & Ultimo Dragon beat Psicosis & Heavy Metal (11:40) when Dragon pinned Metal. Lex Luger (WCW) pinned Masa Saito (NJ) (5:53). EMLL: Negro Casas pinned El Hijo del Santo (5:54). EMLL: Atlantis, Dos Caras, & Hector Garza beat Silver King, Dr Wagner Jr, & Gran Markus Jr. (10:35) when Caras pinned Markus. Tatsumi Fujinami pinned Black Cat (5:15). AAA: Perro Aguayo & La Parka beat Pierroth, Jr. & Cibernetico (9:35) when Aguayo pinned Pierroth (9:38). Konnan (AAA/WCW) beat Chris Jericho and Bam Bam Bigelow (7:41) in a "triangle" match. Konnan pinned Bigelow (4:51). Konnan pinned Jericho (7:41). Jushin Liger (NJ) pinned Great Sasuke (Mich) (12:47). WCW: The Giant pinned Sting (5:09). Dan Severn & Antonio Inoki beat Oleg Taktarov & Yoshiaki Fujiwara (9:15) when Severn forced Fujiwara to submit.
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    old WCW match question

    I think it was just the dark match main event. I can't see WCW during that timeframe giving away a match like that on free TV. After all, we're talking Bill Watts here and not Eric Bischoff.
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    Find Local Sex Offenders

    So I was at the local sheriff's office this evening picking up incident reports and the Sgt. on duty mentioned this website to me. I guess the results for Shelby, NC kinda creeped him out. http://www.familywatchdog.us/ Go there, type in your own address, and a map will pop up of all local registered sex offenders. You'll get their names, addresses, offenses, and even mug shots. Shelby has 54 registered sex offenders which I guess for a small town is braggable. Try it out and see how many you get. The highest number wins a prize
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    Find Local Sex Offenders

    Check the press page they have. I think a newspaper ran something recently about them expanding to include the UK.
  21. cawthon777

    Bret Hart's legacy

    He hasn't gotten over it, not even close. Every mention of his name, the Montreal screw job, Survivor Series 1997, Vince McMahon, "Ring the bell", "Bret SCREWED Bret" - the hate brews within him and he goes to his room and locks the door, crying himself to sleep. Vince is the one who hasn't gotten over it, and to a lesser extent Michaels. It's not Bret that keeps tipping his hat to it on TV. As far as Bret's legacy, I think it's solid. His WCW run is so forgettable that I really don't think it hurts how he's viewed in the long run. When people think of Bret they think of Owen, Mr. Perfect, and the British Bulldogs. They don't think of him as a nWo guy or the guy that cost Randy Savage the world title for no apparent reason. Could it be stronger? Sure. I think being out of the limelight for 6 years and being out of WWE for 9 years has certainly effected that standing.
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    Was SNME a flop??? Ratings are in...

    I added all the known previous SNME ratings figures last night, anxious to see how this episode compared to the others. http://www.angelfire.com/wrestling/cawthon777/snme.htm I'll wait until the number is finalized before adding it to the mix. For the record, the last SNME on Fox in 92 drew twice that number.
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    Crazy Iron Shiek Shoot Interview

    I listened to it the other night. It is pretty crazy. He accuses Hogan of being a fag and randomly goes into crazy off-the-wall promos on Hogan, Nikolai, his ex-wife, etc. Although I have to admit I laughed my ass off when he started talking about trying to get Wendi Richter in bed.
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    The Old School questions thread

    Yeah, that was the only difference that I recall.
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    Most forgettable stint in a promotion

    Yeah, he reverted back to his jet black hair. That was his last appearance at MSG.
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