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I think they had a match prior to that one in which the Hardcore title was on the line and RVD won.

If you are talking about the fingerpoke of doom, that was 99. I'm talking 98 where he beat Savage. Hogan was world champ for over a year ... lost it for 5 days to Luger ... then Sting FINALLY beats him right when the wrestling world was about to revolt Hogan's boring and long-ass reign. Then 4 months later he's champion again. That Nitro was the day WCW slowly began its downfall.

They will continue to drop until the WWE gets a freaking clue and adds some 'entertainment' to whatever it is they air each Monday and Thursday night. For a while now, Raw has reminded me of Nitro in its dying days - but even Nitro had segments I wouldn't miss (the cruiserweights for one). While the drawing power was minimal during the last few months of WCW's existance, at least the company seemed to have some direction to it. Raw doesn't even have that. Okay, so Goldberg is the new champion - but who is there to challenge and to have credibility as a challenger? The only one is Kane. If they put the belt back on Triple H (and I fear they might), it will be a lethal blow just like when Hogan got the WCW strap back in 98. It's odd that the women's match got the highest rating last night because it was immediately after that segment that I turned off my TV and went to bed. And I almost never miss Raw / Smackdown - even when they are shit. That backstage segment with Austin, Jericho, and Christian disgusted me - not for the wrestlers themselves but because I could hear the director giving orders. C'mon, guys. What is this, the WCW crew????

I'm going for the $204 seats but I have no earthly idea where they're located.

Um...I stand by what I wrote... *quickly makes corrections*

WWWF @ Pittsburgh, PA - Civic Arena - September 23, 1963 WWWF World Champion Bruno Sammartino defeated the Crusher via disqualification WWWF @ Baltimore, MD - Civic Center - September 23, 1964 Pacific Alliance Champion Fred Blassie defeated WWWF World Champion Bruno Sammartino via referee's decision after Sammartino suffered an eye injury Sydney, Australia – September 23, 1966 WWWF World Champion Bruno Sammartino defeated the Destroyer WWWF @ Baltimore, MD – Civic Center – September 23, 1967 WWWF World Champion Bruno Sammartino fought Gorilla Monsoon to a no contest WWWF @ New York City, NY – Madison Square Garden – September 23, 1968 Spiros Arion defeated Virgil the Kentucky Butcher Victor Rivera defeated George Steele Gorilla Monsoon fought Bobo Brazil to a no contest WWWF World Champion Bruno Sammartino defeated Rocky Fitzpatrick via submission with the backbreaker WWWF @ Springfield, MA - September 23, 1972 Sonny King defeated Chuck O'Conner Gorilla Monsoon defeated the Blue Demon Arnold Skaaland defeated Joe Turco Joe Crugnale defeated Thomas Marin Chief Jay Strongbow defeated the Spoiler WWF @ White Plains, NY - Westchester County Civic Center - September 23, 1983 WWF World Champion Bob Backlund vs. WWF IC Champion Don Muraco WWF @ Toronto, Ontario - Maple Leaf Gardens - September 23, 1984 Davey Boy Smith defeated Goldie Rogers The Dynamite Kid defeated Jerry Valiant Bret Hart defeated Paul Vachon Brutus Beefcake defeated Nick DeCarlo Iron Mike Sharpe defeated B. Brian Blair Nikolai Volkoff defeated Richard Cummings Ken Patera defeated Rick McGraw Ivan Putski defeated Greg Valentine Sgt. Slaughter defeated the Iron Sheik via disqualification Kamala defeated Andre the Giant via count-out WWF @ New York City, NY - Madison Square Garden - September 23, 1985 Scott McGee pinned Les Thornton Adrian Adonis pinned Rick McGraw Randy Savage pinned Paul Roma Andre the Giant defeated King Kong Bundy via disqualification when Big John Studd interfered Bob Orton Jr. pinned SD Jones The British Bulldogs defeated the Hart Foundation after the Dynamite Kid hit Bret Hart with a flying headbutt off the top behind the referee's back as Hart had Davey Boy Smith covered The Missing Link pinned Lanny Poffo Ricky Steamboat defeated Don Muraco via disqualification Crpl. Kirschner pinned Moondog Spot The Junkyard Dog defeated Terry Funk via disqualification WWF @ Montreal, Quebec - Forum - September 23, 1985 B. Brian Blair defeated Barry O at 11:06 Gino Brito Jr. defeated Richard Charland at 10:21 Uncle Elmer & Cousin Jr. defeated Mad Dog Lefebvre & Destruction #1 at 8:29 WWF IC Champion Tito Santana defeated Sailor White at 13:51 Jacques & Raymond Rougeau defeated Iron Mike Sharpe & Rene Goulet at 9:57 Tony Atlas fought Jos Leduc to a draw King Tonga & Dino Bravo defeated WWF Tag Team Champions Greg Valentine & Brutus Beefcake in a non-title match WWF @ Hershey, PA - Hersheypark Arena - September 23, 1987 Saturday Night's Main Event #12 - shown 10/3/87 on NBC: Randy Savage (w/ Miss Elizabeth) defeated WWF IC Champion the Honkytonk Man (w/ Jimmy Hart) via disqualification when the Hart Foundation interfered; after the match, the Harts held Savage so that Honky could smash his guitar over the challenger's head - which he did but not before shoving Elizabeth to the mat when she begged him not to hurt Savage; after the bout, Hulk Hogan made the save - forming the Mega Powers in the process WWF World Champion Hulk Hogan pinned Sika at 10:00 King Kong Bundy pinned Paul Orndorff at 10:00 WWF Tag Team Champions the Hart Foundation defeated Paul Roma & Jim Powers at 4:30 when Bret Hart pinned Roma WWF @ Detroit, MI - September 23, 1989 Tim Horner defeated Barry Horowitz Paul Roma defeated Bill Woods Brutus Beefcake fought Mr. Perfect to a draw Ted Dibiase fought Jim Duggan to a double count-out WWF World Champion Hulk Hogan defeated Randy Savage in a steel cage match WWF @ Sacramento, CA - Arco Arena - September 23, 1990 Shane Douglas pinned the Brooklyn Brawler Tugboat defeated Dino Bravo The Big Bossman pinned Haku Boris Zhukov defeated Jerry Monti Mr. Perfect defeated WWF IC Champion the Texas Tornado via count-out WWF Tag Team Champions the Hart Foundation defeated Greg Valentine & the Honkytonk Man via disqualification Hulk Hogan defeated Earthquake via disqualification after Jimmy Hart interfered WWF @ Charlotte, NC - September 23, 1990 No information WWF @ Odessa, TX - September 23, 1990 No information WWF @ Sacramento, CA - Arco Arena - September 23, 1994 The 1-2-3 Kid & Sparky Plugg defeated Well Dunn Abe Schwartz defeated Louie Spicolli WWF IC Champion Razor Ramon defeated Owen Hart WWF Tag Team Champions Shawn Michaels & Diesel defeated the Headshrinkers via disqualification WWF Women's Champion Alundra Blayze defeated Bull Nakano WWF World Champion Bret Hart defeated Jim Neidhart The Undertaker defeated Yokozuna in a casket match WWF @ San Diego, CA - September 23, 1994 WWF World Champion Bret Hart defeated Jim Neidhart WWF @ Hershey, PA - Hersheypark Arena - September 23, 1996 Monday Night Raw taping: Salvatore Sincere pinned Tom Casadi (Steve Corino) with the Sincerely Yours Matt Hardy defeated Jason Hart The Undertaker defeated Mankind in four minutes with the tombstone 9/23/96: WWF IC Championship Title Tournament: Marc Mero (w/ Sable) pinned Farooq (w/ Sunny) with the Shooting Star Press to win the vacant title after Farooq was hit with Sunny's loaded purse Vader pinned Henry Godwinn with the moonsault WWF Tag Team Champions Owen Hart & the British Bulldog defeated Skip & Zip Barry Windham pinned Hunter Hearst Helmsley 9/30/96: Steve Austin pinned Jake Roberts with the Stunner after Jerry Lawler interfered and spat alcohol in Roberts' face Henry & Phinneas Godwinn defeated the Grimm Twins following the Slop Drop by Phinneas Savio Vega defeated Razor Ramon II via disqualification when Diesel II interfered Vader & Jim Cornette defeated WWF World Champion Shawn Michaels & Jose Lothario when Vader pinned Michaels with a powerbomb and the Vader Bomb; after the match, Psycho Sid came to Michaels' aid against Vader and Goldust 10/7/96: WWF IC Champion Marc Mero defeated Diesel II via disqualification in a non-title match when Razor Ramon II interfered The Smoking Gunns defeated the New Rockers following the Sidewinder on Leif Cassidy The Sultan defeated Aldo Montoya via submission with the Camel Clutch Psycho Sid pinned Goldust with the chokeslam; Sid and Vader got into a brawl after the match 10/14/96: Vader pinned Phinneas Godwinn with the Vader Bomb Jake Roberts pinned Jerry Lawler with the DDT; Jake pretended to be drunk throughout the match before surprising Lawler with the finisher Freddie Joe Floyd defeated Hunter Hearst Helmsley via count-out when Helmsley left ringside and attempted to attack Mr. Perfect in the aisle Farooq pinned Alex Porteau with the Dominator WWF World Champion Shawn Michaels defeated Steve Austin via disqualification when Vader interfered; Psycho Sid, Michaels, and Savio Vega fended off Austin and Vader after the match WWF @ Albany, NY - Pepsi Arena - September 23, 1997 Brakkus pinned Rockabilly with a powerslam Goldust & the Legion of Doom defeated Brian Pillman, Owen Hart, & WWF European Champion the British Bulldog following a bulldog from Goldust The Undertaker defeated WWF World Champion Bret Hart via disqualification Shotgun Saturday Night: Marc Mero defeated Salvatore Sincere via submission to a standing reverse figure-4 Jerry Lawler & Brian Christopher defeated Scott Taylor & Flash Funk following Christopher’s flying legdrop Rocky Miavia pinned Chainz after D-Lo Brown interfered WWF Tag Team Champion Thrasher pinned Henry Godwinn The Legion of Doom defeated Bert Senteno & Nick Barberry with the Doomsday Device Brian Pillman defeated the Patriot via disqualification when Goldust interfered Raw is War: Vader defeated the British Bulldog via disqualification when the Hart Foundation interfered; the Patriot tried to make the save but was also beaten down Farooq defeated Ahmed Johnson via disqualification when Ahmed threw the steel ring steps at his opponent Goldust pinned the Sultan with the bulldog WWF Tag Team Champions the Headbangers defeated Jose Estrada & Jesus Castillo via disqualification when the Godwinns interfered The Undertaker defeated Hunter Hearst Helmsley (w/ DX) via disqualification when Rick Rude hit the Undertaker with the steel briefcase; Bret Hart and the British Bulldog attacked the Undertaker before the match WWF @ Oklahoma City, OK - September 23, 1999 Edge defeated Jeff Hardy Matt Hardy defeated Christian Joey Abs defeated Terry Taylor WWF Hardcore Champion Al Snow defeated Crash Holly Edge & Christian defeated Matt & Jeff Hardy The Godfather defeated Mideon Kane defeated Bradshaw WWF @ New York City, NY - Madison Square Garden - September 23, 2000 Too Cool defeated D-Lo Brown & Chaz WWF European Champion Al Snow defeated Perry Saturn Test & Albert & Jackie defeated Matt & Jeff Hardy & WWF Women's Champion Lita WWF Tag Team Champions Edge & Christian defeated the Dudley Boyz Jerry Lawler & the Kat defeated Tazz & Ivory WWF Hardcore Champion Steve Blackman defeated Gangrel The Goodfather & Val Venis defeated the Acolytes Chris Jericho & Rikishi defeated WWF IC Champion Eddie Guerrero & X-Pac WWF World Champion the Rock, Triple H, & the Undertaker defeated Kurt Angle, Chris Benoit, & Kane Unforgiven '01 - Pittsburgh, PA - Mellon Arena - September 23, 2001 Sunday Night Heat: Billy Gunn defeated Tommy Dreamer Pay-per-view bouts: WWF Tag Team Champions the Dudley Boyz defeated the Big Show & Spike Dudley, Lance Storm & WWF European Champion the Hurricane, and Matt & Jeff Hardy in an elimination match; Show pinned Storm with the chokeslam; Matt Hardy pinned Spike by avoiding the Dudley Dogg and hitting the Twist of Fate; D-Von Dudley pinned Matt after Bubba Ray hit the Bubba Bomb behind the referee's back Perry Saturn pinned Raven (w/ Terri) with the spinning fisherman's suplex after catapulting Raven into the turnbuckle Christian pinned WWF IC Champion Edge to win the title after using a steel chair to hit a low blow WCW Tag Team Champions the Undertaker & Kane defeated Kronik (w/ Steven Richards) when Taker pinned Bryan Clarke with the chokeslam; after the match, Kane hit the chokeslam on Richards; due to the poor performance of the challengers in this bout, they were fired the following day WWF Hardcore Champion Rob Van Dam pinned Chris Jericho with the Van Daminator and the five star frogsplash after Jericho was distracted by Stephanie McMahon on the apron WCW World Champion the Rock defeated Booker T & Shane McMahon in a handicap match by pinning Booker with the Rock Bottom; Earl Hebner made the count moments after Mike Chioda took out WCW referee Nick Patrick and Chioda was thrown to the floor by Booker Rhyno pinned WCW U.S. Champion Tajiri (w/ Torrie Wilson) to win the title with a T-Bone suplex and the Gore Kurt Angle defeated WWF World Champion Steve Austin to win the title by avoiding the pre-Stunner kick to the midsection and turning it into the ankle lock for the submission victory - even though Austin's hand was gripping the ring apron at the time of the tap out; after the match, the ring filled up with WWF superstars and the Angle family as they celebrated the win WWE @ Anaheim, CA - Arrowhead Pond - September 23, 2002 Sunday Night Heat: D-Lo Brown pinned Stan Stasiak with the Sky High Spike Dudley pinned Raven with the Dudley Dogg Johnny Stamboli pinned Justin Credible with the modified Rock Bottom Raw: WWE Women's Champion Trish Stratus defeated Molly Holly and Victoria by pinning Molly with a roll up after a blow from Victoria The Big Show pinned Jeff Hardy with the chokeslam after a boot to the face Randy Orton pinned Steven Richards with a crossbody off the top WWE IC Champion Chris Jericho defeated Goldust via submission with the Walls of Jericho after a kick off the top rope Kane & the Hurricane (mystery partner) defeated WWE Tag Team Champions Lance Storm & Christian to win the titles following a double chokeslam; William Regal was in the champions' corner early in the bout but was sent backstage after both he and Test interfered Booker T pinned Rico with the scissors kick; after the match, Rosie, Jamal, and Rico beat down Booker and Goldust WWE Raw World Champion Triple H & Ric Flair defeated Rob Van Dam & Bubba Ray Dudley when Flair pinned Bubba with a roll up and using the tights for leverage after Triple H dropped Dudley throat-first over the top rope; as the show came to a close, RVD hit a top rope legdrop onto Triple H, who was laid out on a table set up in the ring BTW - and this goes for all of these posts - if you guys have anything to add to what's posted, feel free to say so. I'm especially looking for more details regarding the 87 SNME.

I had the option of going to the Smackdown house show last weekend or going to No Mercy in Baltimore. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say I made the right decision with the house show. Unless it's a MAJOR PPV (Mania, Rumble, SSlam, or SSeries), I would probably always pick a house show over it. Did you happen to take any pics?

"Ruined" might be a tad much.

Or Vince McMahon, for that matter. I agree with most everyone's points regarding Shane working with talent, but at least he's not beating the top guy on the roster 1-2-3 or walking out of the ring with the world title.

Okay, while I agree that it is the wrestlers themsleves who should always be put over - I have to give Shane credit where credit is due. As a non-wrestler, he's put his well being on the line on multiple ocassions and has spent the past 15 years+ working behind the scenes as a referee, stage hand, etc. It's not like he was born one day and on TV the next. He worked his way up the ladder just like all the wrestlers have done. While I agree on many of your points that he has been misused (or overused), I think he has a very strong stage presence and that should be taken advantage of. There's a thread over on Kayfabe Memories, under the WWF 83-89 section, regarding Shane & Stephanie and Playboy Buddy Rose - who is a regular on the board - can't say enough good things about Shane, stating he was always very respectful to the wrestlers and was constantly asking their advice and trying to improve himself and his understanding of the biz.

Are these rhetorical?

Oh oh, I know how to make it worse! Somehow involve Rick Steiner, Mae Young, and a tube of KY. Yeah, that's right Gerwitz, I dare you!

WWWF @ Washington DC - September 22, 1966 Baron Mikel Scicluna & Smasher Sloan defeated WWWF U.S. Tag Team Champions Johnny Valentine & Antonio Pugliese to win the titles WWWF @ Steubenville, OH – September 22, 1968 WWWF World Champion Bruno Sammartino defeated George Steele WWWF @ Philadelphia, PA - September 22, 1973 Mr. Fuji defeated Mike Pappas Vicki Williams & Debbie Johnson defeated Toni Rose & Donna Christianello Stan Stasiak defeated El Olympico Prof. Toru Tanaka defeated Gorilla Monsoon via count-out WWWF World Champion Pedro Morales, Haystacks Calhoun, & Tony Garea defeated Mike McCord, Blackjack Lanza, & Capt. Lou Albano WWF @ New York City, NY - Madison Square Garden - September 22, 1980 The Hangman defeated Dominic DeNucci at 10:15 Rick Martel defeated Rick McGraw at 6:47 (Martel's MSG debut) Les Thornton defeated Jose Estrada at 7:41 Pat Patterson defeated Johnny Rodz at 8:30 Pedro Morales defeated Afa at 3:34 Tony Atlas defeated Sika at 5:32 WWF IC Champion Ken Patera defeated Rene Goulet at 1:04 Larry Zbyzsko defeated Tony Garea via disqualification at 13:34 when Garea failed to release an abdominal stretch after Zbyzsko reached the ropes Andre the Giant defeated Hulk Hogan at 12:25; Gorilla Monsoon was the guest referee for the bout WWF World Champion Bob Backlund defeated NWA World Champion Harley Race via disqualification at 35:14 WWF @ Toronto, Ontario - Maple Leaf Gardens - September 22, 1985 Dino Bravo defeated Frank Marconi King Tonga defeated Barry O Scott McGhee defeated Rene Goulet Bob Orton defeated Lanny Poffo King Kong Bundy defeated Swede Hanson The Killer Bees defeated Iron Mike Sharpe & Tiger Chung Lee WWF IC Champion Tito Santana fought Jesse Ventura to a double count-out WWF Tag Team Champions Greg Valentine & Brutus Beefcake defeated Uncle Elmer & Cousin Luke Ricky Steamboat defeated Don Muraco WWF @ New York City, NY - Madison Square Garden - September 22, 1986 The Islanders defeated the Moondogs Sika pinned Lanny Poffo with the Samoan Drop Jacques & Raymond Rougeau defeated the Hart Foundation when Jacques, the illegal man, pinned Neidhart with a sunset flip into the ring Nick Kiniski pinned Steve Lombardi with a back suplex SD Jones pinned Mr. X Steve Regal pinned Jose Luis Rivera Ted Arcidi defeated Tony Garea via submission Harley Race pinned Tito Santana Bob Orton Jr. pinned Billy Jack Haynes WWF World Champion Hulk Hogan (as Hulk Machine), Big & Super Machine defeated King Kong Bundy, Big John Studd, & Bobby Heenan at 8:45 when Hogan pinned Studd with a bodyslam and legdrop WWF @ Oakland, CA - Coliseum - September 22, 1990 Koko B. Ware pinned Boris Zhukov Tugboat pinned Dino Bravo The Big Bossman pinned Jerry Monti Earthquake defeated Hulk Hogan via count-out after Dino Bravo and Jimmy Hart interfered Shane Douglas pinned the Brooklyn Brawler Mr. Perfect defeated WWF IC Champion the Texas Tornado via count-out WWF Tag Team Champions the Hart Foundation defeated Greg Valentine & the Honkytonk Man via disqualification WWF @ Richfield, OH - Coliseum - September 22, 1990 Jim Duggan defeated Rick Rude via disqualification after Rude hit the referee Sgt. Slaughter defeated Nikolai Volkoff via submission with the Camel Clutch Ron Garvin defeated Bob Bradley Dustin Rhodes pinned Paul Diamond WWF World Champion the Ultimate Warrior & the Legion of Doom defeated Demolition when Warrior pinned Smash WWF @ El Paso, TX - September 22, 1990 No information WWF @ Brandon, Manitoba - Keystone Centre - September 22, 1992 Television taping: Nailz defeated the Big Bossman via disqualification Dave Sigfritz defeated Kamala via disqualification Razor Ramon defeated Steve Gillespie Bret Hart defeated Barry Horowitz Kamala defeated Brian Jewel Papa Shango defeated Chad Almont The Big Bossman defeated Jim Peterson Tatanka defeated Tom Stone WWF IC Champion the British Bulldog defeated Red Tyler Max Moon defeated the Brooklyn Brawler Crush defeated Matt Borne Repo Man defeated Steve May The Beverly Brothers defeated Jerry Fox & Eric Freedom Bret Hart defeated Razor Ramon Shawn Michaels defeated Kevin Kruger The Ultimate Warrior defeated WWF World Champion Ric Flair via count-out Prime Time Wrestling: 10/5/92: Shawn Michaels pinned Koko B. Ware with the superkick Papa Shango defeated the Big Bossman via count-out when Bossman and an interfering Nailz brawled all the way backstage 10/12/92: The Bushwhackers defeated Butch Banks & Dale Hutchinson Rick Martel defeated Victor Reeves via submission with the Boston Crab Crush defeated Scott Zappa via submission with the head vice WWF IC Champion the British Bulldog defeated Kamala (w/ Harvey Wippleman & Kimchee) via count-out when Paul Bearer brought a casket to ringside, causing Kamala to escape into the crowd out of fear Jason Phillips & Jim Powers defeated the Nasty Boys via disqualification when Knobs & Sags repeatedly pulled their opponents off the mat and continued attacking them when they clearly had the pinfall Bret Hart defeated Blake Beverly (w/ the Genius) via reverse decision; Blake had originally won the match with a double axe handle after Bret became distracted by Beau at ringside, forcing him to release the Sharpshooter; Sgt. Slaughter came ringside to tell the referee what had happened and the decision was overruled 10/19/92: Max Moon defeated Ric Martel via disqualification when the referee saw Martel using the tights for leverage Randy Savage defeated Papa Shango with the flying elbowdrop WWF Tag Team Champions the Natural Disasters defeated Ken Johnson & Victor Reeves 10/26/92: Owen Hart & Koko B. Ware defeated Bob St. Laurent & Bill Lyons when Owen scored the pinfall with a roll up following a missile dropkick from Koko Ted Dibiase & IRS defeated Jim Brunzell & Dave Siegfritz Tatanka pinned Red Tyler with the Samoan Drop 11/2/92: Nailz defeated Tom Stone WWF @ San Jose, CA - September 22, 1994 The 1-2-3 Kid & Bob Holly defeated Well Dunn when Holly scored the pin with an assisted sunset flip Abe Schwartz pinned Louie Spicolli WWF IC Champion Razor Ramon pinned Owen Hart with the Razor's Edge; Owen originally won the match via count-out but wanted it restarted so he could win the title WWF Tag Team Champions Shawn Michaels & Diesel defeated the Headshrinkers via disqualification at 18:30 after Samu hit both champions with one of the title belts WWF Women's Champion Alundra Blayze pinned Bull Nakano WWF World Champion Bret Hart defeated Jim Neidhart via submission with the Sharpshooter The Undertaker defeated Yokozuna in a casket match In Your House "Mindgames" - Philadelphia, PA - Spectrum - September 22, 1996 Jake Roberts defeated Hunter Hearst Helmsley Farooq defeated Marc Mero Psycho Sid defeated Vader Free For All: Savio Vega defeated Marty Jannetty (w/ Leif Cassidy) Pay-per-view bouts: Savio Vega defeated Justin Bradshaw in a Caribbean strap match at 7:07; during the match, the Sandman and Tommy Dreamer, who were sitting ringside, were thrown out of the arena after Sandman spat beer in Savio's face Jose Lothario pinned Jim Cornette with a punch at the 57 second mark Owen Hart & the British Bulldog defeated WWF Tag Team Champions the Smoking Gunns (w/ Sunny) to win the titles when Bulldog pinned Bart Gunn with the powerslam at 10:53 after Bart collided with Billy on the apron; after the match, Sunny fired the Gunns Mark Henry defeated Jerry Lawler via submission with a bear hug at 5:10 The Undertaker pinned Goldust at 10:22 with the tombstone in a Final Curtain match WWF World Champion Shawn Michaels defeated Mankind via disqualification at 26:20 when Vader interfered; after the match, the Undertaker made the save for Michaels after the champion was knocked out by Paul Bearer's urn WWF @ New York City, NY - Madison Square Garden - September 22, 1997 Steve Corino defeated Jimmy Cicero Jesse Jammes pinned Flash Funk after Jerry Lawler interfered Vader & the Patriot defeated Henry & Phinneas Godwinn The Brooklyn Brawler won a 20-man battle royal to earn a world title shot during the November 15th MSG event; other participants included: Los Boricuas, DOA, the Truth Commission, Brian Christopher, Scott Taylor, the Headbangers, and the New Blackjacks, among others Savio Vega & Miguel Perez defeated the New Blackjacks Crush & Chainz defeated Recon & Sniper via disqualification WWF World Champion Bret Hart defeated the Undertaker and Shawn Michaels by pinning Michaels following a tombstone from the Undertaker Raw is War: WWF IC Championship Tournament: Ahmed Johnson pinned Rocky Miavia at 4:56 with the Pearl River Plunge; the Nation came to the ring with Miavia but were sent backstage by Sgt. Slaughter before the bout began The Legion of Doom defeated Farooq & Kama via disqualification when the rest of the Nation interfered; after the bout, Ahmed Johnson attempted to make the save but was also beaten down WWF IC Championship Tournament Semi-Finals: Owen Hart defeated Brian Pillman (w/ Marlena) via disqualification at 7:12 when Goldust interfered and chased Pillman backstage; after the match, Steve Austin attacked Hart from behind Cactus Jack pinned Hunter Hearst Helmsley (w/ Chyna) in a streetfight at 13:40 following a piledriver through a wooden table (Cactus' WWF debut) WWF World Champion Bret Hart defeated Goldust via submission with the Sharpshooter at 12:50 in a non-title match; after the match, the Hart Foundation and DX brawled inside the ring with the Undertaker eventually laying waste to both Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels WWF @ Reading, PA - Sovereign Center - September 22, 2001 Raven pinned Perry Saturn with the DDT after Terri distracted Saturn after he hit the spinning fisherman's suplex Test pinned Kanyon with the boot to the face after Kanyon missed a moonsault; the bout was to have been Test & Kanyon vs. the Acolytes but Farooq was unable to make the show and, after declaring themselves winners via forfeit, the two got into an argument and a match ensued Lita pinned Molly Holly with the Twist of Fate Bradshaw pinned Justin Credible with the Clothesline from Hell WCW U.S. Champion Tajiri defeated Rhyno via disqualification after the challenger used the title belt as a weapon Kane & Albert defeated Kronik when Kane pinned Brian Clarke with the chokeslam WWF IC Champion Edge pinned Christian with the DDT WWF Tag Team Champions the Dudley Boyz defeated Hurricane Helms & Lance Storm, the Big Show & Spike Dudley, and Matt & Jeff Hardy in an elimination match; Show pinned Storm with the chokeslam; Matt pinned Spike with the Twist of Fate; D-Von pinned Jeff after Bubba Ray used one of the tag title belts as a weapon Chris Jericho pinned WWF Hardcore Champion Rob Van Dam in a non-title match with the Lionsault after RVD missed the five star frog splash Unforgiven - Los Angeles, CA - Staples Center - September 22, 2002 Sunday Night Heat: Rey Mysterio Jr. pinned Chavo Guerrero Jr. with the Frankensteiner into the ring Pay-per-view bouts: Booker T, Kane, Bubba Ray Dudley, & Goldust defeated Test, William Regal, & WWE Tag Team Champions Lance Storm & Christian when Kane pinned Storm with a chokeslam WWE IC Champion Chris Jericho defeated Ric Flair via submission with the Walls of Jericho after distracting Flair with a fake knee injury Eddie Guerrero pinned Edge with a sunset flip off the top and holding the tights for leverage after Edge hit his head on an unprotected turnbuckle Rosie & Jamal defeated Billy Gunn & Chuck Palumbo when Rosie pinned Gunn; due to prematch stipulations, Smackdown! general manager Stephanie McMahon would have to perform "Hot Lesbian Action"; had Billy & Chuck won, Raw general manager Eric Bischoff would have to kiss Stephanie's ass WWE Raw World Champion Triple H pinned Rob Van Dam with the Pedigree after Ric Flair interfered and hit the challenger in the chest with a sledgehammer Trish Stratus pinned WWE Women's Champion Molly Holly with the bulldog to win the title Chris Benoit pinned Kurt Angle by countering the ankle lock and putting his feet on the ropes The Undertaker fought WWE World Champion Brock Lesnar to a double disqualification when the referee lost control of the bout; after the match, the challenger threw the champion through the stage near the entranceway

I don't believe the match was televised on the MSG Network with the rest of the card; I think perhaps the Hogan / Andre bout from Shea Stadium the previous month was aired instead.

Yeah, the last I'm aware he was in WCW was March 92. There's some handheld footage of he and Cactus wrestling during a WCW tour of California right after SuperBrawl.

I'm right there with you. I thought Shamrock was quality, aside from the screaming and beating his chest when he was in "the zone" ©.

WWWF @ Baltimore, MD - Civic Center - September 21, 1963 WWWF World Champion Bruno Sammartino defeated Hans Mortier WWWF @ New York City, NY - Madison Square Garden - September 21, 1964 Freddie Blassie fought Bobo Brazil to a draw Gorilla Monsoon fought Bill Watts to a draw WWWF World Champion Bruno Sammartino defeated Waldo Von Erich via count-out at 34:25 Brisbane, Australia – September 21, 1966 WWWF World Champion Bruno Sammartino defeated Skull Murphy WWWF @ Philadelphia, PA - September 21, 1974 WWWF World Champion Bruno Sammartino defeated Strong Kobayashi via count-out WWF @ Landover, MD - Capital Center - September 21, 1986 Jake Roberts fought Ricky Steamboat to a double disqualification The Islanders defeated two jobbers Dick Slater pinned a jobber The Killer Bees defeated Nikolai Volkoff & the Iron Sheik Bob Orton Jr. pinned Tito Santana WWF World Champion Hulk Hogan defeated Paul Orndorff via disqualification WWF @ New York City, NY - Madison Square Garden - September 21, 1987 Don Muraco vs. Bob Orton Jr. The Islanders vs. Rick Martel & Tito Santana Brad Reinghans vs. Tiger Chung Lee WWF World Champion Hulk Hogan defeated the One Man Gang via count-out Jacques & Raymond Rougeau vs. Greg Valentine & Dino Bravo George Steele defeated Sika The Junkyard Dog fought Ted Dibiase to a no contest when JYD stole $500 from Dibiase, which he offered to JYD to take the night off, and handed it out to the crowd Hillbilly Jim vs. King Harley Race Randy Savage pinned WWF IC Champion the Honkytonk Man in a non-title match WWF @ Cincinnati, OH - September 21, 1989 WWF Superstars taping: 9/30/89: Demolition defeated Barry Horowitz & Tony Burton Jim Duggan defeated Alan Reynolds The Honkytonk Man defeated Red Tyler Hercules defeated Boris Zhukov Akeem defeated Jim Merkel 10/7/89: WWF IC Champion the Ultimate Warrior defeated Dusty Wolfe The Powers of Pain defeated Mark Young & Larry Lawson Bret Hart defeated Tom Stone Greg Valentine defeated Jim Evans The Red Rooster defeated Brian Costello Bad News Brown defeated Scott Casey The Bushwhackers defeated the Brooklyn Brawler & ? 10/14/89: Jimmy Snuka defeated Al Burke WWF Tag Team Champions Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard defeated Warren Bianchi & Tim Horner Dino Bravo defeated Jim Evans Rick Rude defeated Phil Wood Ronnie Garvin defeated Craig Green Mr. Perfect defeated Paul Roma Saturday Night's Main Event #23 - shown 10/14/89: Randy Savage pinned Jimmy Snuka at 5:38 WWF World Champion Hulk Hogan pinned Ted Dibiase (w/ Zeus) at 8:00 with a small package after Dibiase accidentally hit Zeus; after the bout, Jake Roberts made the save as Hogan was double teamed (The Immortal Hulk Hogan, last portion of match featured on Hulkamania Forever) Roddy Piper pinned Haku at 3:02 Tito Santana fought Rick Martel to a double disqualification at 8:40 The Bushwhackers defeated the Fabulous Rougeau Brothers at 3:15 when Butch pinned Jacques WWF @ Denver, CO - McNichols Arena - September 21, 1989 Boris Zhukov defeated Mark Young Barry Windham defeated Koko B. Ware Bret Hart fought Bad News Brown to a double count-out Haku defeated Hercules Jimmy Snuka defeated the Honkytonk Man Demolition defeated WWF Tag Team Champions Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard via disqualification WWF IC Champion the Ultimate Warrior defeated Andre the Giant WWF @ Lexington, KY - September 21, 1989 No information WWF @ Lafayette, LA - September 21, 1989 No information WWF @ New York City, NY - Madison Square Garden - September 21, 1990 Dustin Rhodes pinned Paul Diamond with a flying forearm and an elbow drop Sgt. Slaughter defeated Nikolai Volkoff via submission with the Camel Clutch The Barbarian pinned Tito Santana Paul Roma (w/ Hercules) pinned Marty Jannetty when Hercules swept Jannetty's feet from under him and held the leg down during the pin Ron Garvin defeated Bob Bradley Jim Duggan defeated Rick Rude via disqualification after Rude pushed the referee WWF World Champion Ultimate Warrior & the Legion of Doom defeated Demolition when Warrior pinned Smash with the shoulder block / splash combo WWF @ Los Angeles, CA - Sports Arena - September 21, 1990 No information WWF @ Pensacola, FL - September 21, 1990 Jimmy Snuka defeated the Warlord via disqualification Saba Simba pinned Buddy Rose Ted Dibiase pinned Dusty Rhodes after hitting him with the Million $ Belt The Orient Express defeated the Bushwhackers Bob Bradley pinned Jim Powers Battle Cat pinned the Brooklyn Brawler with a small package Jake Roberts pinned Akeem (sub. for Bad News Brown) in a steel cage match WWF @ Winnipeg, Manitoba - Arena - September 21, 1992 Television taping: The Big Bossman defeated Nailz via disqualification Skinner defeated Todd Overbow Razor Ramon defeated Steve May Max Moon defeated Jerry Fox Nailz defeated Eric Freeze Lance Cassidy defeated Tom Stone Matt Borne (Doink the Clown) defeated Bill Jordan Shawn Michaels defeated Steve Gillespie The Big Bossman defeated Barry Horowitz The Beverly Brothers fought Owen Hart & Koko B. Ware to a draw Barry Horowitz defeated Brad Holman WWF IC Champion the British Bulldog defeated Kamala Tatanka defeated Brian Kewel The Undertaker pinned Jason Helton WWF Tag Team Champion Earthquake pinned Ted Dibiase with a splash Nailz defeated Scott Zappa Papa Shango defeated Victor Reed Razor Ramon defeated Randy Savage The Ultimate Warrior defeated WWF World Champion Ric Flair via disqualification Prime Time Wrestling: 10/5/92: Terry Taylor pinned Jim Brunzell with a powerbomb 10/12/92: Owen Hart & Koko B. Ware defeated Brian Jewel & Ken Johnson 10/19/92: Ted Dibiase & IRS defeated Jim Powers & Bob St. Laurent when IRS pinned St. Laurent WWF IC Champion the British Bulldog pinned Jim Peterson with the running powerslam 10/26/92: WWF Tag Team Champions the Natural Disasters defeated Bill Jordan & Tom Stone Rick Martel defeated Butch Banks 11/2/92: Crush defeated Ken Johnson via submission with the head vice 11/9/92: Terry Taylor pinned Jim Powers with a powerbomb WWF @ Baltimore, MD - Baltimore Arena - September 21, 1996 Justin Bradshaw pinned Aldo Montoya after 8 minutes Mark Henry defeated Jerry Lawler via count-out Barry Windham pinned Hunter Hearst Helmsley with the superplex Henry & Phinneas Godwinn defeated the New Rockers when Leif Cassidy was pinned Farooq pinned Marc Mero with the Dominator WWF Tag Team Champions Smoking Gunns defeated Owen Hart & the British Bulldog when Bulldog was pinned Savio Vega defeated Crush via disqualification when Crush began whipping Savio with his belt Psycho Sid pinned Goldust with the powerbomb WWF World Champion Shawn Michaels pinned Vader with the superkick The Undertaker pinned Mankind with the tombstone WWF @ Liberty, NY - September 21, 1997 Brakkus defeated Dr. X Brian Pillman defeated Goldust via disqualification Marc Mero defeated the Sultan Skull defeated Jesse Jammes Scott Taylor defeated Brian Christopher Ahmed Johnson defeated Rocky Miavia Crush, Chainz, & 8-Ball defeated Farooq, Kama, & D-Lo Brown WWF @ Dallas, TX - September 21, 1999 Smackdown! The Big Show defeated Triple H in a Chokeslam match; Triple H 0-1 X-Pac defeated WWF European Champion Mark Henry via count-out when Henry and D-Lo Brown began brawling at ringside Triple H defeated Kane in an Inferno match after Mideon and Viscera attacked Kane at ringside after brutally attacking X-Pac backstage; Triple H 1-1 The Road Dogg & Billy Gunn defeated WWF Tag Team Champions the Rock & Mankind to win the titles after Gunn hit the Fameasser on Mankind Mideon & Viscera (sub. for the Undertaker) defeated Triple H in a Casket match; Triple H 1-2 Hardcore Holly (w/ Crash Holly) pinned Al Snow with the Hollycaust after the Big Bossman distracted Snow from ringside Triple H defeated Mankind in a Boiler Room Brawl; Triple H 2-2 Chris Jericho (w/ Curtis Hughes) defeated Ken Shamrock in a First Blood Match after hitting him with a hockey stick and causing Shamrock to cough up blood Triple H pinned the Rock in a Brahma Bull Strap Match following the Pedigree after guest referee, the British Bulldog, hit the running powerslam on the Rock; Triple H 3-2, therefore earning a spot in the 6-Pack Challenge at Unforgiven WWE (Raw) @ Fresno, CA - Selland Arena - September 21, 2002 Steven Richards pinned Spike Dudley with the Steven Kick after avoiding the Dudley Dog Tommy Dreamer pinned Raven with the DVD Trish Stratus & Jackie defeated WWE Women's Champion Molly Holly & Victoria when Trish pinned Molly with the bulldog; Stacy Keibler was the guest referee for the bout Bubba Ray Dudley pinned Test with the DDT WWE IC Champion Chris Jericho defeated Rob Van Dam via submission with the Walls of Jericho after a low blow Shelton Benjamin, Johnny Stamboli, & Mark Jindrak defeated Justin Credible, Shawn Stasiak, & Christopher Nowinski after Benjamin pinned Stasiak with the spin kick to the head The Big Show pinned D-Lo Brown with the chokeslam Jeff Hardy pinned William Regal with a school boy roll up as Regal was searching for brass knuckles in his tights WWE Tag Team Champions Lance Storm & Christian defeated Booker T & Goldust in a Best 2 out of 3 falls match; fall #1 - Christian pinned Booker after Storm swept the challenger's leg out during a suplex into the ring and held the foot down; fall #2 - Booker pinned Christian with the scissors kick after 15 seconds; fall #3 - Christian pinned Goldust after Test interfered and kicked Goldust in the face WWE (Smackdown!) @ San Jose, CA - Compaq Center - September 21, 2002 WWE Cruiserweight Champion Jamie Knoble defeated Billy Kidman and Rey Mysterio Jr. in an elimination match; Knoble pinned Kidman with a backslide and having his feet on the ropes; Knoble pinned Mysterio with the Tiger Driver; Torrie Wilson was the guest ring announcer for the bout John Cena pinned Bull Buchanon Billy Gunn & Chuck Palumbo defeated Mark Henry & Crash Holly when Palumbo pinned Henry with the Jungle Kick D-Von Dudley pinned Randy Orton with an inverted suplex The Hurricane & Shannon Moore defeated Tajiri & Doug Basham when Hurricane pinned Basham with the Shining Wizard WWE World Champion Brock Lesnar defeated Kane via disqualification when the challenger used a steel chair Matt Hardy pinned Val Venis with the Twist of Fate Kurt Angle pinned Chris Benoit with a reversal on the mat Edge & Rikishi defeated Eddie & Chavo Guerrero Jr. when Rikishi pinned Chavo with the Rikishi Driver

The last one was the first I saw as it aired; I got into the WWF earlier that year. Bulldog / Michaels pissed me off royally as I was a big Davey Boy fan - he and Bret were my two faves.

Um...where exactly did you read that?

Just a one-spot, much like the Brock / Triple H match we ALMOST got at MSG about 6 months ago. I have photographs from this show on my site.

There's currently a discussion on KM regarding the tournament, or should I say series of tournaments, and I was wondering if anyone could add to it. As far as I know, and I'm sure there were more, there was a tournament held at Maple Leaf Gardens on 3/15/87 won by the Killer Bees and a similar event held in Buffalo, NY that July with Bravo & Valentine winning. As a result of their wins, both teams earned tag title shots against the Hart Foundation immediately after their victory. There is talk of another tournament being held at the Meadowlands in early 87 and I was wondering if anyone had more info on that card or any other Tunney Tournaments. Thanks in advance

#2 was Backlash 01. You might be right about #1. I'll have to think about that one for a while.

What was this, a house show or something? Yep.

It's misspelled.

Hey guys, I don't have much in the way of match finishes for SNME matches so if you get the chance, drop me an e-mail at [email protected] and I'd be happy to credit you for the info.