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Heh...is that an actual quote because that sounds unintentionally funny. Nah, i made it up, but just to prove how little sense he would make when incorporating his trademark line.

That makes more sense than some things I've heard. And this has what exactly to do with judging a book by it's cover or whatever the message is? It didn't this time and it doesn't have to everytime. So it has no real concret meaning. Can he raise a flag to acknowlege when he's saying to say whatever it's supposed to mean as opposed to when he's saying it to make a rhyme? This was part of SOH's problem. He had a good catchphrase that he tried to work in at times when it didn't fit. tell me about it he would say things like: "I just had a secret meeting with Spanky.....but, im not telling you anything you dont already know"

thats alright because I think his promos are, ooo.................kaaaaaaaaaaaaay

When he says that the meaning is that whoever he's saying it too isn't on the same level as him.

He got the biggest heat of the night for that. Anyway, if I had the choice, I'd rather have Dave Bautista the World Heavyweight Champion than Randy Orton. Sure he did.....for about 8 seconds when he first tagged in. That's about it

I agree......he's ripped but for some reason he just looks so lankey....HE also looks like a dork from the neck up.

I'm gonna agree with you on Orton. I think Batistacould improve a lot, but they've done everything for Orton to no avail. Even having him jump the hometown hero on Sunday didn't get him heat. When is enough enough, and time to pull the plug on this push?

Dude, Brock and Cena have been out of OVW about the same amout of time as Randy Orton and Leviathan, and it just so happens that neither of them are no where near as over as Cena and Brock. Brock has already shown he can put up a good match, and Cena is improving each week. All Batista does his 3 power moves and Orton keeps sending crowds home. That's the difference. Injuries and gimmick has a lot to do with it. Brock and Cena weren't out for a long period of time like Orton and Batista. Also, was John Cena one bit over before the thuganomics gimmick? And it took a WHILE for Lesnar to get over as well. Without their gimmicks they'd probably be in the same boat So now you want to blame gimmicks and injury? So what if people get injured. It shouldn't take another six months to get over. Batista is going through his second gimmick. He still isn't getting over. Orton can't get over because all he does is repeat the same crap. When was the last time Orton even said anything productive? While Cena and Brock somewhat try to change their characters a bit (Brock becoming a whiny little heel, and Cena adding new signature taunts) all Orton does his talk about HHH and protein drinks. I'm not "blaming" it on gimmicks and injury, i'm saying it has SOMETHING to do with it. When you're on TV, and you're gone for months, do you think you're coming back at the same status if you're still a rookie? Also, What is this second gimmick Batista is doing now? I know you're not counting the Deacon Batista gimmick.

I absolutely agree that they don't deserve the monster pushes. As was said the Shelton Benjamin, Cena ways were good. Fine tune on lower grade shows first. The thing is that Orton is being treated like the next coming of The Rock. He get's a ton of TV time.

Dude, Brock and Cena have been out of OVW about the same amout of time as Randy Orton and Leviathan, and it just so happens that neither of them are no where near as over as Cena and Brock. Brock has already shown he can put up a good match, and Cena is improving each week. All Batista does his 3 power moves and Orton keeps sending crowds home. That's the difference. Injuries and gimmick has a lot to do with it. Brock and Cena weren't out for a long period of time like Orton and Batista. Also, was John Cena one bit over before the thuganomics gimmick? And it took a WHILE for Lesnar to get over as well. Without their gimmicks they'd probably be in the same boat

I agree, but for some reason it doesn't work that way. Plus, you have to take into account "nerves" and being on National TV and stuff. That has to play a part in it too

That's not exactly true. Brock Lesnar isn't really hated around here, and neither is John Cena. But anyway, what the hell is there to like about people coming from OVW? They always come out early and suck ass their first couple of months. I thought OVW was to prepare them. Hey buddy.........Not everyone is like Angle when they start in the big leagues. Jericho was sloppy as hell, so was Benoit. It takes time to get into your groove. Also, i distinctly many many people shitting on Lesnar as soon as he started saying he's not very good at all. Same thing with Cena, and people still shit on him. They praise Low Ki, Chris Daniels, Spanky, PAul London among others because the OTHERS like them, so they'll just go along with it. Even though some of the guys are great, people should form their own opinions

Batista is not that bad at all......And Orton could be tolerable with time. Some of you guys hate everybody just because they come from OVW. There ARE talented guys that come from there. God forbid it's not a name from the indies that everyone creams over, meanwhile they've never seen them work.

I saw the eater egg on Disc 1 with Flair talking about Rhodes, MAgnum, Tully, and Nikita......Flair cracking on Buddy Landell is fuckin hilarious. You guys gotta watch it.

I just wanted to discuss some of the great booking decisions WWE writers have made. It's pretty outrageous how dumb or clueless they seem to be most of the time. Scenario 1 ---- Chris Jericho enters a heated rivalry with Stone Cold becoming his #1 nemesis for a few months. Develops a clan to try to rid Stone Cold. Survivor Series would have been the perfect scenario to have him win the match and get rid of Austin for good right? Nope, instead a guy who had nothing to do with the angle and entered the match at the very last minute for no apparent reason gets the duke in an attempt to get his sorry ass over. There's exhibit A. Scenario 2 ---- Kane......a monster who was built as untouchable for months comes off a PPV destruction of RVD. Who's sent out to give him the fights of his life? A nonwrestler who's been off of tv angles for about a year. The nonwrestler continuously gets the better of Kane and takes him to the limit. RVD could barely get a 2 count on Kane, but this guy makes his life hell. Van Dam looks inferior to a nonwrestler and is buried in the process basically. There's exhibit B Scenario 3 ---- Rewind to Smackdown.......Paul Heyman gives Chavo Guerrero a choice to postpone the title match for Survivor Series, or take a handicap title match now which would take place of the Survivor Series match. Chavo chooses the handicap match and loses, but wait......What's that? The Guerreros somehow get their Survivor Series title match anyway despite the stipulation. So, what was the point of Chavo taking a handicap match if they were gonna get the title shot at SS anyway...Nice waste of time. Scenario 4 ---- You've got a great cruiserweight tile match lined up for the PPV. What do you do? Give them at least 10 minutes to steal the show? Nope, you replace the match with an angle where the attempt is to get over an unover nobody.....No good long term affects from the angle, or even immediate as Orton gets no heat anyway, and you remove a potential showstealer for that garbage. Scenario 5 ---- You have a little face off with the World Champion from Raw and the WWE champion fro Smackdown.....Do you have them get into an intense staredown and talk trash to each other? Nope, Goldberg taunts Brock and makes him look like a bitch while Lesnar stands there with puppy dog eyes looking like he doesnt think he has a chance against Goldberg. Making Lesnar looking fantastic. There's more but these are the 5 that irked me the most. I mean, who in their right mind would look at these scenarios and not think they are ridiculous to go through with. IT just doesnt make any freakin sense at all.

I gotta say........they were desperate to get some heat on him, even going the lengths of having him trash the hometown hero. It didn't work. Why are they pushing this guy down our throat so damn hard? Are we not seeing his upside? Can someone explain to me why they chose to give him HHH v2 push. I would even understand Batista cause he's a monster, but why Orton? It must be the 3rd generation crap.

I agree to a certain point......I agree Shane should not have had THAT much offense in the match, but in a way it shows that NOTHING can stop Kane, nothing that Shane would do could put Kane away for good. That was the point of this angle.........Whether it was being dropped in a pit of fire, crashing into an 18 wheel truck, being hit by a car in the match, none of it was enough. I think some of you guys missed the point of the angle. It's simple Kane can't be stopped no matter what. He'll keep coming at you.....kind of like Jason from Friday the 13th. Regardless though, Shane needs to go away forever because he makes other wrestlers like RVD, Booker T, Hurricane among others look worse and weaker than him. So that part i wholeheartedly agree with. The problem I see is that Shane never should have been in the position to do any of that. No other wrestler could so much as take Kane off his feet. Shane should have shown up (if he HAD to show up) and get awatted down immediately and for good with NO offense. We're totally on the same page with that point.......I think it's safe to say that Shane made many others look bad, all because of his fuckin ego. We can all agree that he needs to get the hell off WWE tv....forever, and take the other 3 with him.

Sorry....that's bullshit......this guy should not have won the MVP. He is the best player in the game but thats not what this award is about. Texas could have easily finished in last place the same without him. Terrible decision. What's so valueable about him in Texas. Is it the fact that they're strapped cause of his salary and can't finish out of the basement with him on the team. They could have spent the money much wiser and gotten some pitching. Yeah, really freakin valueable he is. Also, for JAson Giambi to get a first place vote is a travesty. The guy wasn't even in the top 4 of MVP in his own team. Matsui, Jeter, Posada, and Soriano were all better than him. These voters are so biased and ridiculous.

That's not the way the angle was being sold. The way it was being sold was that Shane would not give up, and to get his revenge he would have to become as evil and sadistic as Kane, or some shit like that. How was that so? If all the terrible things were happening to Kane......That doesn't show Shane not giving up to me. I guess it can be interpreted a few ways. The way i stated is the way i interpreted it.

Wanna try that one again? TAKE TWO!

I agree to a certain point......I agree Shane should not have had THAT much offense in the match, but in a way it shows that NOTHING can stop Kane, nothing that Shane would do could put Kane away for good. That was the point of this angle.........Whether it was being dropped in a pit of fire, crashing into an 18 wheel truck, being hit by a car in the match, none of it was enough. I think some of you guys missed the point of the angle. It's simple Kane can't be stopped no matter what. He'll keep coming at you.....kind of like Jason from Friday the 13th. Regardless though, Shane needs to go away forever because he makes other wrestlers like RVD, Booker T, Hurricane among others look worse and weaker than him. So that part i wholeheartedly agree with.

I sure as hell hope so.....I don't want Taker to beat Kane yet AGAIN......lets's see something different.

The guy has a groing injury that he just won't let rehap completely......That's why he's still wearing those stupid scuba gear tights now. He definitely looked out of shape last night, but as was said before he's looked like that since August. I guess he can't work out, especially his stomach. The guy looks pretty soft now and has lost a lot of definition. He also REALLY needs to grow that beard back because he looks goofy as hell without it.

From what I heard, Shane got some flashy offense but was no-sold constantly by Kane. THAT'S how to build a monster. It's more impressive to pop right back up from a flying elbow then to beat up the guy before he can do it. Taker's loss to Vince was much more impressive than kane's win over shane. Shane litterally dominated the whole damn thing and had Kane in the ambulence with one door shut at one point. That NEVER should have happened. Dude......the guy sat up from the elbowdrop on the table, he came back from being hit with a damn car, he took big time blows and came back from all of it to freakin destroy Shane.......He killed Shane in the end, tombstoned him into the ground and was laughing as he closed the ambulance as if he wasn't affected by any of it.......What more do you want? Stop your whining please

Im guessing (badly) that the order will go like this: 7) Goldberg vs. HHH 6) Vince vs. Taker 5) Team Bischoff vs. Team Austin 4) Team Brock vs. Team Angle 3) Molly vs. Lita 2) Shane vs. Kane 1) Tajiri vs. Knoble