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Is Joey Styles trying to be another JR wannabe with his "traditional wrestling" bullshit? We all know damn well HHH would get booed much worse then Cena, and it has nothing to do with the "traditional wrestling" style or his current character. Are you retarded? If he said the truth that "Cena is the only one of the three that can't wrestle and has an awful gimmick", then he would get fired.

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?

Well that sucked. And it's not often you hear that from me. Who cares about Towelie or Oprah? Worst episode since the Katrina one.

Another night where Katherine is by far the best. Simon was so dead on with his comments. She's in a totally different league from everyone else.

Paris was really really boring.

What does Kane have against Vince?

Shelton stole the Chick kick from Trish.

Okay. Last week was funny, but this is getting kind of boring.

God, it's been like a year and you're STILL whining about that? Huh? I don't remember saying anything when he got banned a year ago.

No. Neither should have AngleSault or Rrrsh. Which is why no mod is able to explain it.

I don't know how you could get that. It was them illustrating of the hypocrisy of Comedy Central allowing Jesus shitting on the president and the flag to be shown while Mohammed just standing there had to be censored out. The manatees definitely weren't an interchangeable joke. They were making a point with it and it was relevant to what was happening in the plot. The joke wasn't that the FG writing staff was simply mantees, the joke is that they were manatees picking from idea balls and that's how jokes on FG got made.

I wouldn't exactly say they got "grilled." Everyone who likes Family Guy knows that it's just a bunch of obscure references and jokes that have no point. That's what they love about it. Yeah, at least it doesn't get all up its own ass with messages.

This would be one of the best DVDs ever. They should also make a Hart/Austin DVD. Disc 1: Austin's KOTR speech Austin calls out Bret to come back to the WWE Bret returns Austin cripples his best friend (because Pillman called Hart the best there was, etc..) Austin/Pillman gun incident More Austin promos Survivor Series 96 Royal Rumble 97 Hart quits on Raw (Austin also comes out to call him a crybaby, and Monsoon annouces the Final Four) Final Four Austin screws Bret out of the title the next night Bret's temper tantrum (when he lost a cage match to Sid in the week before WM) Wrestlemania 13 Bret's heel turn against the US fans Reformation of the Hart Foundation Austin vs Bret on Raw (where Austin attacks Bret in the ambulance) USA vs Canada Canadian Stampede Hmm. I'm not sure to where to end it though. Disc 2: All of the matches out of that.

That opening was perfect.

Did you actually see the episode of OTR where Taker said this? No hostility intended, I just want to figure out what exactly is the truth. Did you hear from someone that Taker told this story on OTR, or did you see him tell it yourself? Thanks in advance... I did see this, and he never said that. Taker did say that if Shawn hadn't done the professional thing, it would have been a really long night for Shawn. But it never came to that. No mention of him taping his fists up backstage or anything. Yep, Shawn getting threatened by Undertaker into jobbing was just another bullshit rumor started by the internet.

Look, it's not gonna happen, plain and simple. They want Cena to stay the top babyface. This is not going to change; the mere fact that he made HHH tap out shows just how committed the WWE is to keeping him on top and getting him over. ? What are you not understanding about this? "And he can still be booked as the top babyface in the company after ONS2. Nothing needs to change. Have the announcers tell the audience at home that they don't like Cena because he wasn't from ECW. This is all that needs to be said. It even has the added bonus of making sense, Unlike the "traditional wrestling fans" explanation." I think it says "I hate you, I want to see RVD kill you."

And he can still be booked as the top babyface in the company after ONS2. Nothing needs to change. Have the announcers tell the audience at home that they don't like Cena because he wasn't from ECW. This is all that needs to be said. It even has the added bonus of making sense, Unlike the "traditional wrestling fans" explanation. They would probably be far far more rabid for Cena because he's the least hardcore of the three. And because he has the shittiest character of the three. And because he was the champion for a year. AND because he was getting "Fuck you" chants last year when he wasn't even there. Yes, that's the way wrestling works. No one wins all the time. Benoit made HHH tap out at WM, lost the title to Orton clean at Summerslam. Cena made HHH tap out at WM, he should lose the title to RVD at ONS2. That's more reasonable than expecting HHH to lose a world title PPV match clean twice to two different people. Any feud with HHH because anyone he's facing isn't allowed to make any comebacks that would make HHH look bad. Or at least that's the way it appears. You're missing the point. A clean win over HHH or Cena for the world title instantly makes RVD a main eventer. A clean win over Edge for the world title just makes him a mid carder with a world title. Exactly, he's the opposite of ECW. This is the main reason I think RVD should face Cena. See my above posts where I talk about ECW vs WWE. He is, but Cena made him tap at WM. So as of right now, he's looking better than HHH. Hah. No, that's not.

If anything, he's a tweener. At WM, he was getting a full fledged heel reaction. The effect ONS2 would have on him would be little different from that. This is true. It wouldn't be a good match. However, it could be like Rock/Hogan where the energy of the crowd and the moment make up for what's happening in the ring. RVD vs HHH would be fine, except.... I have a hard time believing that HHH would job to RVD at an ECW PPV after he just jobbed to Cena at WM. And that also means we get to see HHH burying RVD in promos before the PPV. Rey Mysterio would probably give RVD the best possible match. Like Edge though, it would do little for his credibility. Whenever he would lose the title to Cena or HHH, he would be in the exact same spot. Right, it was a mid card match because all of ECW's top stars were mid carders in WWE. But.. it doesn't HAVE to be that way this time. It shouldn't be that way since the main event is going to be a WWE world title match.

Who knows what they're doing but they haven't exactly been ignoring it. Cena has been addressing them. Edge has been making fun of Cena for the crowds turning against him. He already gets booed in every city, this time it would just be a little more than usual. They can still make up some bullshit excuse like calling the ECW crowd traditional fans if they want. I fail to see how the ECW crowd will be able to change anything that the WM crowd couldn't. What would they be sacrificing? I haven't seen/don't remember them, but I'm pretty sure he didn't do anything on the level of Edge vs Foley or HHH vs Foley. Even if I'm wrong and he did though, it wouldn't be as fresh on people's minds as Edge vs Foley. RVD's popularity in an ECW setting would balance out all the Cena hate, I think. The crowd wouldn't only be anti-Cena as they would be if he was in almost any other match. They would also be ready to riot if they don't see RVD walk out with the title. Again, this shouldn't be passed up. It's basically the wrestler that most represents ECW against the wrestler that most represents WWE. Edge doesn't fit into this (especially because a lot of ECW fans might respect him now after his match at WM) and he would just turn the main event of ONS2 into a midcard match. RVD pinning either HHH or Cena would be the best way to make the match mean something, the best way to make RVD into a star, and the best way to showcase ECW. Why would they give a shit about that? Well, the last ECW PPV proved that ECW could still be profitable. A lot of profit could be made from ECW in the future if they don't intend to kill it dead at this PPV. Plus, it gives them another bonafide main eventer on Raw, other than HHH and Cena.

RVD against Cena would work so much better because Cena is the farthest away you can get from ECW of the three. HHH and Edge both had hardcore matches. They could have fit well in ECW. Not Cena, he's total WWE. As far as we know, he doesn't have an extreme bone in his body. They could really sell this as ECW vs WWE. The fans will eat Cena alive for it. I think that's too good of a crowd reaction to pass up. Likewise, RVD beating Cena and the explosive pop that would follow is too good of a moment to pass up. This has to happen. Not only that, but RVD vs Edge feels too much like a mid card match. Edge is barely a main eventer himself. RVD beating Edge is just blah. So what...? Who doesn't beat Edge? A win over Cena will legitimize RVD. Besides, after winning two Wrestlemania world title matches back to back, and holding the title for a whole year, Cena can afford to lose a match or two. What's the point of making him look like a god for a year if no one can benefit from it except for HHH when he finally wins the feud? That's the kind of booking that makes no stars and keeps the same guys at the top for years. If RVD beats Edge, Edge will just be seen as a transitional champion again and RVD will be seen as someone who beat a transitional champ. The only two people who would appear to be real main eventers after that would still be HHH and Cena.

No fucking way is Edge the best choice. Cena is the best choice because of how insane the heat of the crowd will be. It'll be sad if we can't get that match due to Vince wanting Cena to stay as a babyface. According to the torch, they do plan on eventually turning Cena anyway.

No, it's very good. And Raw has been alright. Stop your bitching.

Do not take the man's fucking apple.

Hopefully not. This is great.

Anyone who isn't loving this has no sense of humor.