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That would have been horrible and would have ruined one of the greatest wrestling storylines ever done. The reason he turned heel was because he became a bitter whiner due to getting screwed out of every chance he had to win the title. If he won the title at WM, then there's no great Austin/Bret match, no double turn, no heel Bret, no USA/Canada storyline, no need to reform the Hart Foundation. It would have literally been one of the worst ideas ever. Wasn't Bret only in a wheelchair for two months? I don't think it would have made that much of a difference.

About half of these, I've posted before. I was going to bump the old thread, but all of the links in it are dead. So I uploaded them again for anyone that missed them and here are some more videos. Enjoy. If you haven't seen the original ECW before or if you've seen very little of it, I recommend watching from top to bottom without skipping any. Just pretend it's a PPV. http://www.vidilife.com/video_play_648334_...eme_Moments.htm ECW extreme Moments. (Poor Spike. Someone tell me how Spike Dudley is still alive.) http://z28.zupload.com/download.php?file=g...;filepath=33441 ECW on TNN pulp fiction http://z28.zupload.com/download.php?file=g...;filepath=33460 RVD Promos RVD promos in ECW. (Holy shit, RVD can talk?) http://z06.zupload.com/download.php?file=g...p;filepath=6013 Doring & Roadkill vs Nova & Chetti from Heatwave 99. (This is one in a long list of things that I think the new ECW is missing. Matches that are pure fun. Crazy matches that would start off with something like a marriage proposal and end up with someone dancing to Ricky Martin. Matches that would make you laugh. Every match is so serious nowadays. Where's the fun?) http://z06.zupload.com/download.php?file=g...p;filepath=2945 RVD vs Bam Bam Bigelow from a Hardcore TV in April 1998 (Note to Big Show: I expect no less than the quality of this match from your upcoming match with RVD) http://z18.zupload.com/download.php?file=g...;filepath=34232 RVD vs Jerry Lynn from ECW on TNN in late 1999 http://z06.zupload.com/download.php?file=g...p;filepath=6081 Lance Storm vs Jerry Lynn from Anarchy Rulz 1999 http://z13.zupload.com/download.php?file=g...;filepath=49747 Classic Dudleys Boys intro from Heatwave 99 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXWOWxLvNh0 Dudley Boys at a ECW house show in New Orleans. (I live in New Orleans, went to this show, and ordered a tape of it just for this.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VO_IWJcrII The best of Joel Gertner http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob2ZkgJcJdE Joel Gertner discussing his affairs with Minnie Mouse and Daisy Duck http://www.megaupload.com/?d=806Y0APD Mike Awesome vs Masoto Tanaka from November to Remember 1999 (If you can't tell by now, 1999 is by far my favorite ECW year) http://z06.zupload.com/download.php?file=g...p;filepath=6054 Tajiri vs SuperCrazy from a Hardcore TV in February of 1999 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UMA5UJWA Sabu vs Taz from Barely Legal http://z18.zupload.com/download.php?file=g...;filepath=34241 Extreme Superstar Steve Austin http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3CNA12DM Brian fucking Pillman http://z08.zupload.com/download.php?file=g...;filepath=33924 Foley's Cane Dewey Promo http://z18.zupload.com/download.php?file=g...;filepath=34179 Highlights of Raven and Sandman's feud in 1996, Raven brainwashing Sandman's 6 year old son Tyler into joining his nest, Dancing Stevie Richards, Bluedust, Nova, the Kiss parody, the crucifixion of Sandman, and more. http://z13.zupload.com/download.php?file=g...;filepath=49761 Al Snow in ECW http://z08.zupload.com/download.php?file=g...;filepath=33653 Sandman incredible ring entrance at One Night Stand http://z28.zupload.com/download.php?file=g...;filepath=34011 Baldies vs Balls, Axl, and New Jack in your extreeeeme rules match of the night from November to Remember 1999 http://z18.zupload.com/download.php?file=g...;filepath=34214 RVD vs Sabu from a Hardcore TV in November 1999 (If you don't like RVD/Sabu, this probably won't change your mind, but it's one of the better matches in their series)

I've never played WoW before or any MMOs, thank god, but that was fucking hilarious.

Is Bret Hart ever planning on releasing his book? The first volume was apparently already written 4 years ago. http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/index.php?showtopic=18948 Has anyone heard anything about it in the last several years?

I think it was better than RVD/Holly, if only because the first half of RVD/Holly wasn't that great. The first half felt like it was in slow motion. Tonight's match was incredible from the beginning with RVD doing an insane leg bump, then following that up with a rolling thunder on the stairs. I enjoyed all of the near falls and seeing RVD being made to look invincible again.

Hahaha, Danny Doring doesn't even get a picture.

Why did Sabu just dive out of the ring?

As you can see almost in its entirety in my ECW Videos thread.

RVD is the whole fucking show, how could it not be good?

Yes! The Danaconda is back on TV!

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgil7_ecw...open-challenges In ECW, you do not issue open challenges! (Unless you want to get your ass beaten by New Jack) http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xginm_spike-dudley-vs-911 Spike Dudley vs 911 I don't know. What shows were they on?

Then I believe the answers is no for the World Title minus the WCW lineage...With it...Different story if I put the thinking cap on.. If the WCW lineage counted, then Vince Russo for one.

Yeah, I've never seen it, but I must have it, I have DVDs of every ECW show in 98 and 99. I'll upload it. Edit: It's not much of a match. They edited it down to about 3 1/2 minutes. Still want it?

I'd like to hear Figure 4 Weekly's Lance Storm interview from a few days ago.

Who came up with it?

I don't know if he claimed that or not. Did he come up with it?

Kreski had Rock, Foley, HHH, and every other star whose character was developed under Russo as well. It's not like Russo was just thrown Austin, Rock, and Vince and said "Okay, go out there and do something." He crafted the storylines and developed their characters which helped them become bigger stars than they probably would have under say, today's writing team. It was Russo who came up with the idea for the Rock to call himself "The Rock" and to talk in third person, according to his shoot. I know you're not a big fan of his shoot, but I couldn't go without mentioning that.

1999 was one of the worst years from a wrestling standpoint, but it was a very fun year, which is why the ratings stayed in the 6's and 7's. The Corporation, the Ministry, the Brood, Austin, Rock, Foley, Edge & Christian, Gangrel, The Hardy Boys, The Godfather, Val Venis, New Age Outlaws. It was fun to watch and go to shows. Not a good year for wrestling, but I'd take it over any year after 2001. 1998 as well wasn't the best year for wrestling but it was great from an entertainment standpoint. I've seen this mentioned before but I think that's a little unfair. Russo didn't have Jericho, Benoit, Malenko, Saturn, Guerrero, and Kurt Angle all coming in. I those names had more to do with 2000 being successful than Russo leaving. And let's not forget that ratings fell over an entire point after Summerslam 2000, even with all of those names, and they would never again get back up to the point that Russo had them in 1999. The last rating for Raw in the 6's was August 21, 2000. Kreski fans often forget about this. Creatively, 2000 was also the year that gave us things such as Naked Mideon, Mae Young giving birth to a hand, the HHH/Angle/Stephanie love triangle evaporating into thin air, Jericho, Guerrero, Benoit all getting eliminated in the first round of the KOTR, the asinine Dusty Finish with Jericho pinning HHH and not getting the title - not capitalizing on Jericho while he was red hot. I believe Russo would have capitalized the same way he did for Austin, Rock, Foley, and HHH, all of them getting the title at exactly the right time. HHH is actually one of the last wrestlers I can say that about. Angle should have beaten HHH at Summerslam 2000, where it would have really meant something, instead of getting a throw away title reign later by beating the Rock.

1998 was horrible? The year that began WWF's boom period? That's either really bad sarcasm or the strangest opinion on wrestling I've ever seen on these boards.

A hell of a lot. The last few years make that very obvious. Just curious. When did he say this? In his book? I was hoping he would mention it in his shoot but he didn't.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0ckmEFFXhI Kane/Mankind hype up video package before Survivor Series 97

Jesus christ, Holly is going to die tonight.

This is the quietest RVD match I've ever seen.

The worst Raw of all time is saved!

Vince hates predictable matches.