chaosrage
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And yet, ratings are double what the network expected. Couldn't be that stupid, now, could it?The first week had a 2.7 or a 2.8. Last Tuesday pulled a 1.9. Yeah, it's pretty damn stupid.
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Another problem is that they are using the ECW name but presenting a product completely different than what ECW was. It reminds me of the time this guy I knew put a Triton V12 emblem on his Ford Tempo.
It's not really a problem but more of an annoyance. They've said a million times that this ECW is not supposed to be the same as the original ECW. So you're not going to see Justin Credible winning any World Titles in this incarnation.
I'm not defending their decision, but it's seriously ridiculous that people haven't realized this after 12 weeks of programming.
It's a gigantic problem since ECW fans (you know, the people that watch the show, the people that bought that Rise and Fall DVD, the people that Vince should be targetting) don't want and won't accept anything that isn't the original ECW. They're either going to have to attempt to be like the original ECW or the fans at every ECW only event are going to keep booing the majority of the show.
To say "Hey look, there appears to be an audience for this product, I have an idea, let's bring back the product but get this, let's not give them what they want, let's change it completely." is the height of stupidity. It really does not get any dumber than that.
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Dallas, BladeHe was a great wrestler but man he had a horrible taste in children's names
Don't forget about Beans Hart.
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WWE prepared for the worst when they had to air this week's edition of Raw on the Sci-Fi Network. It was reported that executives within the company were prepared for a 25% drop in the ratings. Instead, the show only incurred a small drop doing a 3.4 cable rating, with a 5.1 share. Last week's Raw, August 21st, did a 4.3 cable rating with a 6.3 share.The late airing of Raw at 12:40am on the USA Network did a 0.6 cable rating with a 2.5 share. This brought in hours of 0.7 and 0.5. Added all together Raw still did its normal 4.0.
How do they know that the 0.6 on USA didn't come from people watching it twice because they couldn't get enough, as JR had suggested?
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I'd say there's more than a good chance that the only ECW originals you'll see will be RVD/Sabu/Sandman/Dreamer. Maybe the FBI and someone like Justin Credible if you're lucky.So it's possible that the card could be all heels except for 4 or 5 guys? I think I'd buy that just for the crowd response.
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Last I heard he was in OVW. But that was a few years ago. I thought he was still there.
Edit: Maybe I was wrong. Maybe he wasn't. I'm searching for it and I can't find anything.
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The reason WWE is adding people like Rene Dupree, Bob Holly, and Matt Striker to ECW is so that they can phase out and most likely release a few of the ECW originals that they signed while ECW was planned to still be just an internet show and didn't have the prime time Sci-Fi deal and also see nothing in. Those that are currently on the bubble are CW Anderson, Francine, Tony Mamaluke, Danny Doring, and Jazz. There is also talk on giving both Al Snow and Steven Richards office jobs, which would eliminate their time in the ring.-- PWI Audio
No, not Doring. He's not that bad on the mic or in the ring. He's a decent guy. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=16...52775&q=ecw All 4 of these guys are currently under contract in WWE. (5 if you include Lita) Can someone tell me why they can't do something this entertaining and fun in the new ECW?
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Fuck, I guess that's it for me in this thread. Youtube banned me and took down everything I uploaded.
How the fuck did you get banned?
For uploading WWE stuff.
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Fuck, I guess that's it for me in this thread. Youtube banned me and took down everything I uploaded.
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Show can be redeemed if we have CM Punk vs RVD.
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We only get one extreme rules match per night?
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Torrie? Channel switch.
Just kidding. It's better than Mike Knox and Test.
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Same thing in '98: Stone Cold Steve Austin. The company sold more Austin 3:16 shirts than every other t-shirt combined. This example also kills the whole "competent writing and good booking" idea: the writing and booking from fall of '97 to spring of '98 was TERRIBLE. Russo's crash-tv theory ruled the day. Feuds were started and then abruptly forgotten with almost WCW-like quickness. Characters were randomly turned babyface and heel on almost a daily basis. (Example: I dare anyone to give me a complete synopsis of the Taker/Kane feud from that time period.) Steve Austin put that company on his back and carried it from near-bankruptcy into billion-dollar success.
The spring of 1997 to the summer of 1998 was the absolute apex of writing/booking in a major promotion of the past twenty years. For about 18 months, the company shot amazing angles, developed great characters and feuds and put on a compelling product that changed the landscape of the industry. It became cool to hate on Russo by late 1999, but the stuff he was doing at first was innovative and immensely entertaining. The development of the Austin character has as much to do with the writing from that period as it does with the man himself.
Yeah, it's really dumb to say the boom happened just because of Austin and Austin alone. The whole product was good. The writing on the shows was easily the best that it's ever been.
More Vince Russo. http://fileanchor.com/55074-d http://fileanchor.com/55077-d I'm starting to think Russo may deserve more credit than he's given for the the boom period.
Characters were randomly turned babyface and heel on almost a daily basis. (Example: I dare anyone to give me a complete synopsis of the Taker/Kane feud from that time period.)Since neither Taker or Kane turned face or heel in that period, how is that an example of characters randomly turning face and heel?
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If you liked that, you'll love listening to DX the night after Survivor Series 97. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gcAzSMl1Hc
cool, that was the debut of the dx theme and video
bet Rude wasnt happy to be out there, if you recall I thing one of the reasons he jumped to wcw was cuz he
was mad about the screwjob (which is why Bret had so much respect for him on his dvd )
"The WWF wasn't big enough for the Heartbreak Kid and Shawn Michaels" oops, maybe he wa stalking about his ego and him
looking at this now, its not like they were "desecrating bret" or anything like that, although he probably was in his mind, on tv is came across as a typical heel promo and was totally in character for shawn
Well, the week after that was the week he brought out the Bret Hart midget.
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Vince Russo would like to give his thoughts on the matter.
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Yeah, we've discussed it before. It's all bullshit.
http://www.ccdominoes.com/lc/LooseChangeGuide.html
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If you liked that, you'll love listening to DX the night after Survivor Series 97. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gcAzSMl1Hc
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Canadian Stampede parts 1-4.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cle_8eLyXc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v-YVUpS5QM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0DQ6DX-1qY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0_kNUtbslI
Such an incredible moment at the end. All the more so knowing what would happen to the Harts over the next few years.
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You know after watching that, they should have just kept HBK face. He was over still, there really was no need for it.But then we wouldn't have had DX.
I've uploaded Canadian Stampede but youtube is being a bitch about accepting this one.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37GeJgc7sg4 Austin promos before Survivor Series 96
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBgG0bRmcLA Austin/Bret video package
"Pink tights? What the hell is that all about Bret? This isn't a ballet class!"
Damn, what happened to the realness, the intensity, and the emotion? This is the kind of stuff that made me start watching wrestling. Austin seems legit scary and it feels like Bret should be fearful for his life. And Bret was as convincing as you can get as a frustrated person going insane. I much preferred serial killer Austin to drunken redneck face Austin.
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Can you upload the Bret Hart/Faarooq match from later that year? I liked it soley for the whole Hart Foundation/Nation Of Domination mini-feud that was going on at that time. I really like the unity that The Hart Foundation showed in the aftermath of Brian Pillman's death.Or do you not have it?
I doubt I have it. I don't think I have any RAWs in 97 from after Pillman died, aside from a DX comp I bought.
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Bret's heel speech parts 1, 2, and 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdnrk2EuYrI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsleuR-UOdI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-Z4k1x3NjA
My favorite part is the very end where he's flipping off a kid in the front row.
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Too bad the Austin-Bret feud never had a blowoff, Austin winning his first title from Bret at wm 14 would have meant so much more.Canadian Stampede was the blowoff. The Hart Foundation proved that Canada was the dominant country. Austin was pinned by Owen, and he was like "Holy shit, I can't even beat Bret's little brother, I better not bother Bret anymore." So Bret went back into the world title picture, and Austin went on to feud with Owen over the IC title. At least, that's the way it came off to me.
Uploading Bret's heel speech to youtube now.
The best part is that the crowd is so loud before Bret's entrance is music is almost completely drowned out. You can hear very small pieces of it right when they start their walk to the ring, and notice the HUUUUGE smile on Pillman's face, probably one of the last great moments he was involved in before his death.It's hard to tell there since the sound is so horrible.
OAO ECW TV Day 91 Thread - September/5th/2006.
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Fuck yes. RVD and Sabu back as a tag team.
This is easily new ECW's best match so far.