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    You really want Jericho to face Orton soon? Since Orton is destined to hold the title for many months? Wouldn't that kill Jericho from the start?

     

    Likely: Jericho feuds with Carlito upon his return.

     

    A midcard feud is what would kill Jericho from the start, unless he completely dominates Carlito.

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    King C: I LOVE tournaments but I think WWE has seen bad returns ratings and PPV wise when they have tourneys. I believe its a ig reason why KOTR dies off as well. Even when they do a tournament now its very short. I am a HUGE amrk for bigger tournaments but I think we are in the minority on that

     

    Survivor Series 98 had a terrific buyrate. No Survivor Series has done nearly that high since.

     

    The KOTRs aside from 2002 didn't do too bad either. I can't remember why 2002's was so low.

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    -On the infamous "Glass Ceiling" in WCW: "All the guys that were complaining back in the 1990's that they were going nowhere when the Hogans and the Scott Halls and the Stings and the Kevin Nashs and the Lugers were going strong; a lot of those guys went to the WWE and they fared no better."

     

    "I was using those guys exactly the way I should have used them, because that's exactly where they ended up."

    I hope he's not referring to Benoit or Eddie, because they fared much, much better in the WWE (although, admittedly, it took them a while to reach their peaks), barring each's tragic endings.

     

    Benoit, like Jericho, was at the top for a few months. Then afterwards, he went back to holding and feuding over a midcard belt for the rest of his career. In Benoit's case, it was the same midcard belt that he won under Bischoff in WCW.

     

    I don't know about Guerrero since I wasn't watched Smackdown in 2005. But I remember hearing that he was supposed to win the world title again, so Bischoff may have been wrong on him.

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    I put up some more Jericho in WCW on youtube if any of you haven't had enough with the hour and a half of videos I posted a few months ago.

     

    Part 14 - ending to Jericho/Malenko at GAB 98 and the next night on Nitro

    Part 15 (1/2) Part 15 (2/2) - Jericho vs Ultimo Dragon

    Part 16 - Jericho brings out Rey Mysterio and has a 5 star classic that "all you internet geeks and sheetreaders can go crazy about"

    Part 17 (1/2) Part 17 (2/2) - Jericho vs Ultimo Dragon 2

    Part 18 - Jericho at Bash at the Beach

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    There are lots of games that people remember as being good but really aren't. How else could people claim that Final Fantasy I-VI are the best in the series, or that Chrono Trigger is actually an elite RPG? But yea, it's good to replay those old nostalgic games just to have a realistic picture on how they currently stand up to modern games. Which is usually poorly, but it's better than living in a dream world.

     

    This has to be a joke post.

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    Wrestlescale - Results

     

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    You are slightly modern in your views about wrestling. You still have some traditional beliefs but you believe that the business must be more entertainment-based and must move away from the old and into the new.

     

    Most similar booker: Eric Bischoff

    Most similar promotion: WWF 1996

     

    Um, what? WWF 1996 was nothing like Eric Bischoff. That makes no sense. I said I wanted frequent title changes and that controversy was important.

     

    Now if it had said WWF 1997, that would be right on target.

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    I've just uploaded 1 and a half hours of Jericho in WCW from a compilation tape I bought a few years ago. Enjoy.

     

    http://www.dailymotion.com/Ninjafish/video...cw-1-of-5_sport Part 1

    http://www.dailymotion.com/ninjafish/video...cw-2-of-5_sport Part 2

    http://www.dailymotion.com/ninjafish/video...-3-of-5_sport/1 Part 3

    http://www.dailymotion.com/ninjafish/video...-4-of-5_sport/1 Part 4

    http://www.dailymotion.com/ninjafish/video...-5-of-5_sport/1 Part 5

     

    Has there ever been a more happier heel than Jericho when he was the Cruiserweight champ?

     

    This is all only promos and short matches, but if you feel like seeing the long PPV matches during this time too, they're all there already on Daily Motion or Youtube.

    Just search for

     

    Jericho Mysterio Souled Out

    Jericho Guerrera SuperBrawl

    Jericho Malenko Unsensored

    Jericho Malenko Great American Bash

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    Shouldn't WWE create its own identity for this decade, rather then falling back into the 90s?

     

    If the 90s means exciting unpredictable complex intertwining storylines between multiple personalities at the same time such as a link to the opening of Summerslam 97 or a link to the opening of Survivor Series 98 and the new identity means whatever passes for story today (Not much), we should probably go back to the 90s.

     

    God, I just watched those links and they make me miss wrestling so much. Not the crap that passes for it now with Cena and Lashley embarrassing themselves in a feud based on nothing, but the interesting, well-written stuff that they had back in the day.

     

    That 2nd link was awesome. Brings back memories... i remember at the time, i felt that was one of the weaker stories they did.. now its soooo much better than what's been on TV the past couple of years.

     

    The other 7 parts to that video (Each 10 mins long) leads up to Mankind winning the world title if anyone is interested in watching the rest. Would someone like Mankind be made into a world champion today?

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    Shouldn't WWE create its own identity for this decade, rather then falling back into the 90s?

     

    If the 90s means exciting unpredictable complex intertwining storylines between multiple personalities at the same time such as a link to the opening of Summerslam 97 or a link to the opening of Survivor Series 98 and the new identity means whatever passes for story today (Not much), we should probably go back to the 90s.

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    The original Attitude era was a successful attempt to grow the product beyond the child-skewing storylines that had insulted adult intelligence. Pro wrestling has advanced to the point in Hammer's absence though that returning to the Attitude Era would itself be an insult to adult intelligence.

     

    It advanced from a fun and entertaining show that was getting 7s and 8s in the ratings to a mostly boring show with bland characters and stale storylines that has settled on a core rating of about 3.4. The product now is so bad that they actually managed to dwindle their entire audience away that they gained during the Atitude era, not to mention eliminate all of the fans who were watching WCW at the time, which is impressive. Any change can only be a good thing.

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    john cena retaining the title vs. umaga at NYR, hbk at Wrestlemania, and great khali the second time they fought. all three of those matches you'd think "maybe he'll lose, it'd be the perfect time", but he remained the champion

     

    i was also surprised when undertaker beat batista at wrestlemania

     

    You really thought there was a chance that HBK would win at Wrestlemania? HBK is my favorite wrestler of all time, but I still didn't turn on Raw to watch a second of their feud and had no intention of seeing WM because I knew there was no way in hell HBK was winning.

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    Mankind's title win I've seen elsewhere recently. The Survivor Series '98 event doesn't hold up well because the one good match in there is marred by an ending so weak that WWE never showed it again on television. The Rock/Mankind feud was so full of screwjobs and dusty finishes that fans were relieved that it wasn't overturned this time, even if it resulted in a match where ten men stood around ringside and another three or four interfered in the match

     

    I didn't upload the SS98 event though, just the storyline. The only match I have there in full is Mankind vs Dwayne Gill. The Mankind title win is already on youtube. I didn't upload it for that. I uploaded it to show the storyline of the night. I think if you watch it altogether (from a few weeks before Survivor Series to Mankind's title win), it makes a lot of sense, it all seems well thought out, and it's remarkable how hated it made the Rock and how ultra popular Foley became from it.

     

    All you should have to do is listen to the heel heat the Rock recieves coming out the next night on Raw, before he even says a word, to see that the ending to SS was perfect.

     

    Why doesn't the screwjob ending from Austin vs Rock at WMX7 get all the hate that this ending gets? I don't understand it. It's pretty much the same ending. Someone sells out to Vince McMahon for an easy win and sympathy is generated for the other wrestler. Only in the case of Rock/Mankind, it's a whole fucking lot better because Mankind had been treating the Corporation like they were his family for months. The fans knew from Vince's facial expressions that he really couldn't stand Mankind, so they felt sorry for him for that. And they felt sorry for him because of the beating he took in the Hell in a Cell. Then SS98 happened. Then he got screwed out of his hardcore title, which was as JR put it "the only thing Mick Foley had left in his life".

     

    Judging from how loud the crowd is during Foley's entrance on the night he won the title, the pop Austin gets when he comes out to save Mankind - one of the loudest Austin pops I've ever heard, and the subsequent pop when the ref makes the three count, not to mention the ratings at the time, the screwjobs and dusty finishes did very little to hamper the fans' enjoyment of the feud. It actually probably just made the fans want the Rock to lose more.

     

    Nothing was wrong with people interfering. Mankind already proved he could beat the Rock cleanly. He did it at Rock Bottom. He had the Rock beat again until Shamrock interfered. It was only fitting for Austin to help Mankind and cost the Rock the title, since Austin and Mankind were the two guys the Corporation screwed over at Survivor Series. This was the payback. Mankind beat the Rock cleanly again when he won the title for the second time too, in the empty arena match.

     

    If it was any wrestler besides Mankind, it would not be remembered in a favorable light.

     

    Of course. It would have to be a wrestler that would make the crowd pop as huge as they did for it to work. The story was also designed around Foley's real life story.

     

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    The Mankind/Rock deal 'makes up' for Russo making a total mess of WCW?

     

    Ok.

     

    WCW was already a total mess before he got there. He didn't do anything but turn shit into a different type of shit.

     

    Shawn Michaels vs. Vader in a dark match

     

    Don't blink, because you will miss it.

     

    This is awesome.

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