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I'll give it another day.. then i'll fix the values for the next three months tomorrow. I do think Orton and Edge should be the same value now, though, thinking about it.

So we'll do the Mania - Summerslam cycles? Don't forget everybody needs their brand new teams in for Sunday with the new values for Month 4.

I purposely raised Swagger a lot.. he's being pushed well at the moment with the defeats of Dreamer and first defeat of Ricky Ortiz so therefore over the next few months will be scoring more than the likes of Finlay, with a possible title fued with Matt Hardy also looking likely.

Values updated. They are of course up for negotiation for a few days, there are a few 'controversial' ones, but they are pretty right in my opinion.

I'm going to run through the values now. Who needs adding that isn't there already? I'm swapping Stephanie and Mr McMahon on Raw, and added Nikki Bella so far.

I only wrote details for 4 months because I planned to use month 4 as the 'reset' for values. I don't think four months is really enough to get a good overall standings.. it's still pretty close up there. I think six months is good, but i'm always available for suggestions.

And then Todd Grisham is gonna knock him spark out.

Well, the logical idea would be start with the day after WrestleMania and end with Summerslam. Cycle 1: Day after WrestleMania until Summerslam Cycle 2: Day after Summerslam until WrestleMania.

Well, I'd not thought that far ahead (I wasn't sure if we'd even reach month 4!) but if this is going to be a regular ongoing thing, I suppose we could have overall leagues that last six months long?

How will they explain Chris Daniels return? 'Yes, he lost a match a year ago that meant he had to be fired, but we've not signed him to a new contact'?

No, I haven't yet GenSpliff, but i'm off work tomorrow (my last day off for a few weeks) and i'll be sorting through them with a fine comb tomorrow.

I'd laugh if all the boys chanted 'HE'S HARDCORE, HE'S HARDCORE'.

Ahem. Fixed now, but it's got the wrong date with it. Working these long hours will do such a thing!

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WWE Raw 12/08/08 and Slammy Awards 2008 scoring John Morrison 24 Chris Jericho 23 CM Punk 23 Edge 21 The Miz 20 John Cena 20 Charlie Haas 20 Randy Orton 17 Jeff Hardy 17 Cody Rhodes 16 Triple H 15 Santino 14 Beth Phoenix 13 Hornswaggle 12 Manu 12 Finlay 11 Shawn Michaels 11 R-Truth 11 Batista 11 The Great Khali 11 Vickie Guerrero 9 Evan Bourne 9 The Undertaker 8 Rey Mysterio 7 Dolph Ziggler 7 Vladimir Kozlov 7 William Regal 6 Shad 6 MVP 6 JTG 6 Kofi Kingston 6 Carlito 6 Mr Kennedy 6 Layla 6 Kelly Kelly 4 Mickie James 4 JBL 4 Kane 4 Ted DiBiase 4 Shelton Benjamin 4 Maria 2 Kung Fu Naki 2 Hacksaw Jim Duggan 2 Jillian Hall 2 Ranjin Singh 2 Festus 2 Candice-Michelle 2 Ron Simmons 2 Mike Knox 2 Matt Hardy 2 Tiffany 2 Primo 2 Melina 2 Eve 2 Theodore Long 2 Tommy Dreamer 2 Jamie Noble 2 Umaga 2 Snitsky 2 The Big Show 2 Michelle McCool 2 Mark Henry 2 Chavo Guerrero 2

Oh geez. Personally, I don't think the Slammys should have any effect on the fantasy game. They are more related to the past than the present. I guess most people want them to count for points, but if there's any debate still going on, I vote no. If they were in the match that was voted in Match Of The Year, then they'll get nomination points. & it's just a bit of fun, foleyfan. People had a while to object to Slammy's being scored, but like I said, it's only a game, and it's nice having things like this and things like Survivor Series points to mix things up every now and again.

Appearances (2) Maria 1 Festus 1 The Miz 1 John Morrison 1 CM Punk 2 William Regal 2 Layla 2 John Cena 2 Candice Michelle 1 Shad 1 JTG 1 Mike Knox 1 Randy Orton 3 MVP 1 Charlie Haas 1 Tiffany 1 Matt Hardy 1 Jeff Hardy 2 Chris Jericho 2 Manu 2 Cody Rhodes 2 Kelly Kelly 1 Kane 1 Vickie Guerrero 1 Santino 1 Beth Phoenix 1 Finlay 1 Hornswaggle 1 Melina 1 Theodore Long 1 Kofi Kingston 1 Rey Mysterio 1 Eve 1 Mr Kennedy 1 Shawn Michaels 1 JBL 1 Batista 1 Triple H 2 Ron Simmons 1 Mickie James 1 The Great Khali 1 Ranjin Singh 1 Jillian Hall 1 Kung Fu Naki 1 Hacksaw Jim Duggan 1 R-Truth 1 Dolph Ziggler 1 Edge 1 In a match (2) John Morrison 1 CM Punk 1 MVP 1 Charlie Haas 1 Jeff Hardy 1 Chris Jericho 1 Beth Phoenix 1 Santino 1 Finlay 1 Hornswaggle 1 Kofi Kingston 1 Rey Mysterio 1 Batista 1 Triple H 1 Randy Orton 1 Manu 1 Cody Rhodes 1 Dolph Ziggler 1 R-Truth 1 John Cena 1 Edge 1 Winning a match (3) CM Punk 1 Charlie Haas 1 Chris Jericho 1 Hornswaggle 1 Finlay 1 Rey Mysterio 1 Randy Orton 1 Manu 1 Cody Rhodes 1 Dolph Ziggler 1 John Cena 1 In the Main Event (2) Edge 1 John Cena 1 Chris Jericho 1 Triple H 1 Jeff Hardy 1 In a Speciality Match (3) Batista 1 Triple H 1 Randy Orton 1 Manu 1 Cody Rhodes 1 Finishing Move Connects (1) CM Punk 1 Chris Jericho 1 Hornswaggle 1 Randy Orton 1 John Cena 1 Slammy Nomination (2) Carlito 3 Primo 1 Cody Rhodes 2 Ted DiBiase 2 The Miz 4 John Morrison 5 Shad 2 JTG 2 The Undertaker 4 Randy Orton 1 Evan Bourne 2 The Big Show 1 John Cena 4 JBL 1 Edge 5 Chris Jericho 3 Jeff Hardy 2 Santino 5 Beth Phoenix 2 Vickie Guerrero 1 William Regal 1 Layla 1 Finlay 2 Hornswaggle 2 Mickie James 1 Kelly Kelly 1 Michelle McCool 1 CM Punk 4 Shelton Benjamin 2 MVP 1 Mr Kennedy 2 Shawn Michaels 2 The Great Khali 2 Tommy Dreamer 1 Batista 2 Jamie Noble 1 Umaga 1 Snitsky 1 Kane 1 Mark Henry 1 Chavo Guerrero 1 Triple H 2 Charlie Haas 4 R-Truth 1 Vladimir Kozlov 1 Kofi Kingston 1 Slammy Winner (5) The Miz 2 John Morrison 2 Evan Bourne 1 Jeff Hardy 1 Edge 1 Vickie Guerrero 1 Beth Phoenix 1 CM Punk 1 Shawn Michaels 1 The Great Khali 1 Chris Jericho 1 Charlie Haas 1 R-Truth 1 Vladimir Kozlov 1

I've never been to a christmas party for a business i've worked for before, but the job I started 2 weeks ago has theirs this Friday and i'm going to it. Going to a restaurant (pre-ordered the food already, i've got chicken strips, steak & christmas pudding) and then I assume into town after. I am, of course, working the following morning (Let's see how many ring in sick!) but there's about 25 of us going. KKK, can you do me a favour, living in England i've always been curious, what classes as 'soda'? I've seen coke and lemonade called soda on tv so far.

Like I did with the TSM General Survey, I'm not going to read the other entries as it would most likely just influence my own choices. General Interest Questions 1. Who are you and what's your business here? Adam, AKA The/Team Franchise. I run the TSM Fantasy game in the WWE folder, been a member for six years now. 2. When did you discover an interest in wrestling? When I was 7, I was given a copy of Royal Rumble 1990, and from that moment, at the age of seven, I was hooked for life. 3. The Company Line: A. Which companies have you actively followed in your tenure as a wrestling fan? I was always a WWF fan first. I'd record WWF Raw on a Friday night in England every single week, while my friend down the road would record WCW Nitro, and the following day we'd swap tapes over and watch the other show. But I'd always watch Raw and never Nitro if they were both on at the same time, no matter how good WCW was at any point. I never watched ECW while it was on TV, but have watched it regularly since it folded. I've seen every episode of TNA from the weekly PPV's to the current week, although mostly through downloads. I appreciate ROH's work and watched it when it was on TWC in England, but it's now cancelled and I wont' be downloading ROH events now. B. What have some of your favourite companies been? Your least favourite? (In theory, your answer can be the same - if you were growing up a fan of the technical wrestling WCW brought to the table but thought the end of the line for them was some of the worst television this side of My Mother The Car, that's cool). As I said above really, i'm your typical WWE mark. I just love the company and I always will. I think i'll be a fan for life, as I'm a big a fan today as I was when I was 7. I never 'got' WCW as a fan really.. I was always a fan of WWF's production values and WCW always looked second rate to me. In the main event, Hogan was audibly shouting at the fans and it just seemed.. I don't know, second rate is the best way to describe it. Regularly seeing crap thrown in the WCW ring didn't help things. C. What is your favourite company right now? Any reason why? TNA right now, but that's probably a very short lived answer. The reason is 100% because of the MEM/'Front Line' rivalry, and any time the MCMG are on TV. 4. (Not So) Favourites: A. Who were your favourite wrestlers (or gimmicks) growing up / when you first started watching wrestling? I was always a Bret Hart fan first, no matter his opponent. I think I was pretty much one of the biggest Bret marks there ever was. B. Who were some guys you couldn't stand? To be honest, I can't really think of someone I blatantly didn't like watching. As a kid, I guess every heel. C. Who are your current favourites (if applicable / different from A.) MCMG, CM Punk and Miz & Morrison. D. There was a 4th question here, but it basically ripped off the entire premise of a thread (or more than one thread, in theory) that already exists in General. I agree. Specific Questions about your Interest 5. How would you gauge your current interest level in the product? I still won't miss a Raw. I skip through SmackDown!, at least I used to before I started TSM Fantasy. ECW is my favourite show WWE produces right now and I always watch without fail. My currentl interest level is probably at about 60%. 6. At what point in wrestling history (if it's not now) would you consider your interest to have been at it's peak? 2000-2003 I think. 7. At what point could you tell your interest was dipping and why do you think this happened, or what specific event(s) triggered the decrease? 2003 up until He Who Shall Not Be Named won the World Title. HHH was running the WWE (the character, not the man himself) and it was such a turn off. (The TV of course, nothing sexual here). 8. Have you ALWAYS stuck with wrestling even during times of low interest, or are there any lengths of time you stopped watching for a period only to come back at a later date? I watched Scott Steiner and HHH have one of the worst matches ever in January and then I watched them somehow outdo themselves a month later. If I didn't give up on wrestling then, then I never will. 9. If applicable, at what point did you decide to pack in the wrestling fandom? Interesting Questions of a Somewhat Random Nature 10. What style of pro wrestling best resonates with your personal tastes? Growing up as a Bret Hart fan, I was always a fan of his technical ground wrestling. Led me to being a huge Kurt Angle fan too. When Shawn Michaels won the title at Mania 12 and everybody I knew went crazy, I actually died a little inside. 11. Where do you "draw the line" with the whole "suspended disbelief" deal? I've always let absolutely everything go, but when they held a 10 bell salute for Vince McMahon after Owen & Eddie.. I refused to believe what I was seeing. That's the only example that I can think of. 12. Do you attend live events? I've attended and wrestled at such events! I can't any more because of work, but I certainly do miss it. 13. If applicable, what are the best and worst experiences you've had going to a show live? The worst is easy, some guy (for use of a better term) through his beer all over me when Grand Master Sexay beat a jobber in England a few years ago (I think 2002? Maybe) and he was marking out like hell. Best is a tough one. 14. What are your favourite matches, moments, or events? Favourite match is a hell of a tough one. That Daniels/Joe/Styles match, is probably my favourite ever. Moment? Bret Hart being paraded by the faces at Mania 10, or CM Punk winning the title this year on Raw. The Punk incident is easily the biggest mark out moment ever, perhaps only the main event of Mania 20 coming close, but in hindsight, Punk winning is by far the best now. 15. Freestyle Vince has done a good enough job on me that I'll probably never stop watching his product.

Oh god, Charlie Haas is going to clean up. In the Best Impersonation category alone, he gets four nominations PLUS winning points.

Oh.. Well, I don't see why not, it's different from when R-Truth wrestled for the US Title on WWE.Com before CS, in the sense that it's simply an award show and would be the same if it was announced on WWE.com or Raw. All Slammy's will be covered and scored, regardless of being shown on Raw.

What's happening with the Slammy's? I thought they were all presented during Raw?

I am making this ruling as i've not read (apart from the announcers one) any nominees so therefore can't cheat with my own roster (although since i've got all midcarders I can't see myself making points here) and it is as follows: Two points for a single nomination. Five points for winning a Slammy. As for TI's question, it will come down to common sense really, the Jeff Hardy onto Randy Orton will count as a nomination for Jeff Hardy only and not Randy Orton, and it was the extreme move by Jeff and not Randy. Also, I'm going to need to decide on the rule changes effective of Month 4 soon. I'm going to be adjusting the main event ruling to just the competitors (and people involved, IE Guest Referee) and not people who happen to appear in the segment. If an interview is in the main event slot, then the last match will get the ME points. I'd like to hear anybodys ideas about any other rule changes they're curious about.

I too dislike the Abyss look of white. His figure and the white outfit just make him look like an out of shape jobber surrounded by the muscle-men like Morgan.

At least you didn't give me a 100% genuine answer there man. I was mocking the Ladder Legdrop thread.